Aggie (w/ Green Card) detained by ICE without due process:

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cecil77 said:

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"If the Constitution doesn't apply to somebody who's lived in this country for 35 years and is a green-card holder and only left the country for a two-week vacation that means [the government] is basically arguing that the Constitution doesn't apply to anybody who's been in this country for less time than him," Lee told the Washington Post.


This is where ICE is in dire need of nuance.

Why? It is unclear why he was detained. ICE can't detain someone at the port of entry?
What does this have to do with the constitution?

If you break the law, ICE will detain you. There are a number of reasons why you can be detained..you might not have entered the country within the required 6 month period (very common reason for losing your GC) and he might be fine this time, but if this happened anytime in his history, he can be detained and GC confiscated

He's been living here for 35 years, and doesn't have citizenship. That's a long time for someone to not make a mistake.
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deddog said:

Lived in this country for 35 years, and has a green card? So he didn't apply for citizenship?
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"If the Constitution doesn't apply to somebody who's lived in this country for 35 years and is a green-card holder and only left the country for a two-week vacation that means [the government] is basically arguing that the Constitution doesn't apply to anybody who's been in this country for less time than him," Lee told the Washington Post.

Looks like he was trying to hold on to Korean citizenship, and ICE is going to say No bueno.


Why on earth would ICE have the right to assert that?
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cecil77 said:

Sims said:

cecil77 said:

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"If the Constitution doesn't apply to somebody who's lived in this country for 35 years and is a green-card holder and only left the country for a two-week vacation that means [the government] is basically arguing that the Constitution doesn't apply to anybody who's been in this country for less time than him," Lee told the Washington Post.


This is where ICE is in dire need of nuance.

ICE may need nuance but the Consitution is certainly not a relative document.

The laws in question were written long after the Constitution.

Ah, sorry, I didn't see "the laws in question" in your quoted text. Just the Constitution. I guess I must have misunderstood you were referring to something other than what you were posting about.
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cecil77 said:

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"If the Constitution doesn't apply to somebody who's lived in this country for 35 years and is a green-card holder and only left the country for a two-week vacation that means [the government] is basically arguing that the Constitution doesn't apply to anybody who's been in this country for less time than him," Lee told the Washington Post.


This is where ICE is in dire need of nuance.

I am sure they got it in the midst of the situation.

This is a "salacious" story that KWTX/KBTX is using to pull on heartstrings. There is nothing at all remarkable or troubling about it.
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3 star OP just comes in drops a link and quick sentence about some poor dude locked up and he disappears.

Is OP the South Korean and this was his message for help. We need answers OP. Come back and tell us what we are doing wrong.
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cecil77 said:

deddog said:

Lived in this country for 35 years, and has a green card? So he didn't apply for citizenship?
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"If the Constitution doesn't apply to somebody who's lived in this country for 35 years and is a green-card holder and only left the country for a two-week vacation that means [the government] is basically arguing that the Constitution doesn't apply to anybody who's been in this country for less time than him," Lee told the Washington Post.

Looks like he was trying to hold on to Korean citizenship, and ICE is going to say No bueno.


Why on earth would ICE have the right to assert that?

Should've been more clear.
HE could have broken a rule/law - for e.g. not re-entering the country within 6 months. Know off someone that happened to, and it wasn't on their current visit, it was on a previous visit. Living in the US for 35 years and being a GC holder (not citizen) is a long time for you to not make an immigration mistake.
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Psycho Bunny said:

3 star OP just comes in drops a link and quick sentence about some poor dude locked up and he disappears.

Is OP the South Korean and this was his message for help. We need answers OP. Come back and tell us what we are doing wrong.

Yep. Waiting for the thread to be deleted.
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48 hour rule. Gotta be more to the story.
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According to The Washington Post, immigration officials have not publicly stated the reason why Kim was detained. Lee told the paper that Kim had a minor marijuana possession charge in Texas in 2011, for which he completed community service and later had the record sealed through a nondisclosure petition. Lee believes the incident may be the reason for the detention, but says Kim should qualify for a legal waiver that protects permanent residents from deportation due to minor offenses.

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deddog said:

Lived in this country for 35 years, and has a green card? So he didn't apply for citizenship?
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"If the Constitution doesn't apply to somebody who's lived in this country for 35 years and is a green-card holder and only left the country for a two-week vacation that means [the government] is basically arguing that the Constitution doesn't apply to anybody who's been in this country for less time than him," Lee told the Washington Post.

Looks like he was trying to hold on to Korean citizenship, and ICE is going to say No bueno.

Actually ICE would have to say "no bueno" in Korean.

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deddog said:

Lived in this country for 35 years, and has a green card? So he didn't apply for citizenship?
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"If the Constitution doesn't apply to somebody who's lived in this country for 35 years and is a green-card holder and only left the country for a two-week vacation that means [the government] is basically arguing that the Constitution doesn't apply to anybody who's been in this country for less time than him," Lee told the Washington Post.

Looks like he was trying to hold on to Korean citizenship, and ICE is going to say No bueno.


There are many people who don't do so for sentimental reasons.Some countries don't allow dual, so you have to give up your original passport.
A GC gives you the best of both worlds so many choose that option. They can't vote but they don't care to.
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First off, if he has been denied access to a lawyer, how does he have a lawyer who is representing him on this issue?

Second, less than a dozen people have died worldwide from Lyme disease over the last 30 years. Most people who get it recover. So let's not act like he's curing cancer.
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GeorgiAg said:

48 hour rule. Gotta be more to the story.

Might want to look at who your girl in the pic is married to.
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kwtx overloads itself with one sided news stories, just like all the mainstream
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Stat Monitor Repairman said:

People here on green cards, asylum, and in temporary protected status do this all the time.

They'll leave the country to go to Memaw's wedding somewhere and can't get back in.

Guy probably got popped on a crime against moral turpitude which is a common pitfall.

Canada and Australia dothe same thing and are even more strict but nobody cries about that.

We almost had one of our control law engineers not get into Canada once...and he'd been an F-16 pilot and F-22 test pilot.

No idea what happened but, IIRC, he was told after our trip to not come back. We had to make all sorts of phone calls to the Canadian agency we were going to work at to have them vouch for him.
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So he got a green card when he was 5?
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lil99chris said:

GeorgiAg said:

48 hour rule. Gotta be more to the story.

Might want to look at who your girl in the pic is married to.

who? My google skilz aren't that good.



Pretty smart cookie too.
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That was obviously a joke post. I think we need to rethink deporting really smart scientists.
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One of my best friends is from England and had a 5-year L-1B work permit based on specialized knowledge. He moved his family here and two of his daughters are natural born citizens. He had applied for permanent residency but his paperwork got delayed (thanks to the Biden administration). Did he break the law and overstay his visa? No, he temporarily moved his entire family back to England for 9 months until his permanent residency was approved. So I have no sympathy for scofflaws.

TL;DR: Stop breaking the law, *******.
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I'm surprised the OP didn't get the old:

"You need more than an X link to frame an OP. Tell us how you see the issue and tee it up for discussion" treatment.
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COLLEGE STATION, Texas (KBTX) - A Texas A&M doctoral student, researcher, and green card holder has been detained by immigration officials for more than a week without explanation, according to a report by The Washington Post.

Tae Heung "Will" Kim, a 40-year-old South Korean citizen who has lived in the United States since he was five, was reportedly taken into custody on July 21 at San Francisco International Airport following a two-week trip to South Korea for his younger brother's wedding. He has reportedly been held since then without access to legal counsel, according to statements from his attorney, Eric Lee, to The Post.

Help me understand how this cat has NOT managed to get US Citizenship during 35 years of residence?
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BudAg97 said:

I'm surprised the OP didn't get the old:

"You need more than an X link to frame an OP. Tell us how you see the issue and tee it up for discussion" treatment.

Different rules for those that pay 25.00 a month.
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He could have been legally detained for any number of reasons including export control issues and espionage. I am going to wait my 72 hours and see what percolates. one politically slanted article does not a martyr make.
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I knew one young guy from Bulgaria who graduated from high school in Texas as an exchange student and went to college in Texas and was doing fine until he didn't appear to contest or pay a traffic ticket. After a few months with no action, he was deported back to Bulgaria
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So.... who is the husband?
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infinity ag said:

So.... who is the husband?


Tae Mike Kim per Facebook.
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Psycho Bunny said:

3 star OP just comes in drops a link and quick sentence about some poor dude locked up and he disappears.

Is OP the South Korean and this was his message for help. We need answers OP. Come back and tell us what we are doing wrong.

Probably only got paid for the first message. Replies cost extra for his handler.
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BudAg97 said:

I'm surprised the OP didn't get the old:

"You need more than an X link to frame an OP. Tell us how you see the issue and tee it up for discussion" treatment.

This is (D)ifferent.
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GeorgiAg said:



deport, deport, deport, deport, deport, she can stay.

Holy crap. I actually agree with you about something
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A Texas A&M doctoral student, researcher, and green card holder



Tae Heung "Will" Kim, a 40-year-old South Korean citizen who has lived in the United States since he was five, was reportedly taken into custody on July 21



somebody being a green card holder for 35 years is a gigantic red flat. i'm more worried about that than i am Lupe cleaning hotels.

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ETA: From the SF newspaper
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Typical Heterophobic Surrette hit piece. So he claims to have been here for 35 years? Why hasn't he applied for citizenship? Why hasn't he even started the process? If he doesn't want to be a citizen then send his ass home to So Korea. Something smells like BS. Green cards aren't forever. They are only good for ten years and then it has to go through the renewal process. My guess is he overstayed his visa and failed to reapply within the 90 day window and he's going home.
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Living here for 35 yrs. He's only been a green card holder since 2011 and he obtained his BS in 2007, so what did he do from 2007 to 2011?
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Wow, I am impressed with the Sherlock Holmian detective skills of the "denizens" of this board.
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TRM said:





Wow... someone outkicked his coverage...
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DevilD77 said:

He's legally a permanent resident so unless he is guilty of something other than a minor marijuana possession charge, ICE needs to let him go. This will be blown up by the left in support of their lie that ICE will even deport Americans if they get the chance.


Why?
 
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