Aggie (w/ Green Card) detained by ICE without due process:

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The real victim here is the other people on the dude's research team who now have to do a bunch of extra-work because the guy got deported.
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Except the hot chick - they'll cover for her.
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At best, Tae Heung "Will" Kim is a South Korean guest in the United States. Receiving a student visa to study and get a degree is a privilege, not a right. That privilege can be revoked for any reason.
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Stat Monitor Repairman said:

The real victim here is the other people on the dude's research team who now have to do a bunch of extra-work because the guy got deported.

Reminds me of the time my Indian co-worker who was a Student Visa overstayer, decided to meet his brother in El Paso and then wander across to Juarez for some nightlife (back when you still could).

We had to cover for him for a week or two until he could get back to Austin. And that was in 1994.

Hopefully in 2025, he'd just stay gone.

Side note, this same Indian co-worker asked one of our other colleagues to watch his apartment when he took his month long trip to India. Apartment watching duties included keeping his Mary Jane plant alive.
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GeorgiAg said:

lil99chris said:

GeorgiAg said:

48 hour rule. Gotta be more to the story.

Might want to look at who your girl in the pic is married to.

who? My google skilz aren't that good.



Pretty smart cookie too.
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Dr. Emily Bencosme-Cuevas is passionate about vector-borne diseases, vector-host-pathogen interactions, and vaccine research and development. She began her research by studying the immune system of the Lone Star tick and continued during her Ph.D., focusing on the black-legged tick and the Lyme disease agent, Borrelia burgdorferi. After years of contributing to the tick research community, she joined Dr. Joel Vega-Rodriguez's laboratory in 2024 as an IRTA research fellow. She aspires to contribute to the mosquito/malaria community. Her current research explores the antibody repertoire of different vertebrate hosts. The goal is to identify candidates for prophylactic and transmission-blocking immunizations.



That was obviously a joke post. I think we need to rethink deporting really smart scientists.


I grew up with this guy in Del Rio before we went to A&M. His little brother is a good friend of mine and so is Will, the guy being detained.

That's his sister in law in the picture. He went to S Korea for his little brother's wedding to the girl pictured above. Mike, Will's little brother is also an A&M undergrad/masters/doctorate degree holder that now teaches at KSU vet school.

This is a good dude, from a good family. I really hope he gets a fair shake at staying in the states. Yeah he got popped with like a gram of weed 14 years ago, but he did everything they asked him to do after he got in trouble & completed whatever programs/community service/probation the judge assigned to him.

I really don't think is the guy we need to be going after when there are tons of actually dangerous people here illegally that we could be trying to remove instead of a guy that made a dumb mistake a long time ago but is in good legal standing today.

By the way, I am all for deporting people here illegally, but as far as I know, Will is here legally.
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Dirty-8-thirty Ag said:

GeorgiAg said:

lil99chris said:

GeorgiAg said:

48 hour rule. Gotta be more to the story.

Might want to look at who your girl in the pic is married to.

who? My google skilz aren't that good.



Pretty smart cookie too.
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Dr. Emily Bencosme-Cuevas is passionate about vector-borne diseases, vector-host-pathogen interactions, and vaccine research and development. She began her research by studying the immune system of the Lone Star tick and continued during her Ph.D., focusing on the black-legged tick and the Lyme disease agent, Borrelia burgdorferi. After years of contributing to the tick research community, she joined Dr. Joel Vega-Rodriguez's laboratory in 2024 as an IRTA research fellow. She aspires to contribute to the mosquito/malaria community. Her current research explores the antibody repertoire of different vertebrate hosts. The goal is to identify candidates for prophylactic and transmission-blocking immunizations.




That was obviously a joke post. I think we need to rethink deporting really smart scientists.


I grew up with this guy in Del Rio before we went to A&M. His little brother is a good friend of mine and so is Will, the guy being detained.

That's his sister in law in the picture. He went to S Korea for his little brother's wedding to the girl pictured above. Mike, Will's little brother is also an A&M undergrad/masters/doctorate degree holder that now teaches at KSU vet school.

This is a good dude, from a good family. I really hope he gets a fair shake at staying in the states. Yeah he got popped with like a gram of weed 14 years ago, but he did everything they asked him to do after he got in trouble & completed whatever programs/community service/probation the judge assigned to him.

I really don't think is the guy we need to be going after when there are tons of actually dangerous people here illegally that we could be trying to remove instead of a guy that made a dumb mistake a long time ago but is in good legal standing today.

By the way, I am all for deporting people here illegally, but as far as I know, Will is here legally.



Bless your heart. But if your "friend"was here for 35 years and didn't take care of his immigration status he's gotta go.


If he was a good guy he would have taken care of his immigration status. Why in 35 years hasn't he tried to become a naturalized citizen? OVER THREE DECADES AND NO CITIZENSHIP???

I call BS.
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South Korea has a low birth rate, maybe when he gets back he can help with that.
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You're right, not sure on why he never took care of the immigration issues, haven't seen him in a very long time. But I do know he isn't a bad guy or up to anything shady, but you are correct it was dumb to not take care of any immigration issues, especially if his GC did actually expire. I do not know that for a fact, but if indeed true, that's on him to get it taken care of and remain in good legal standing.

For the people asking what he did during his large gap in between school, pretty sure he worked for a large shipping company out of Houston for a long time before going back to school and changing career paths.
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I remember when the trans stuff first began popping off 10 years ago, and later seeing how the Dems became entrenched around the idea, I remember thinking, this is going to cost them because this is lunacy. Lunacy for a small minority that no majority will ever be able to understand, and there is a strong possibility this is rooted in actual mental health issues.

I have that same alarm going off now. Reps are going to regret HOW this is being done. We were promised criminals and violent *******s being deported, and yet it's the people that work our farms, build our homes, and evidently research and teach in our universities.

I'm sure someone will reply with snide BS, blah, blah, blah. But how this is being done, is not good, and a wild misrepresentation of an already questionable plan. It'll be interesting to see how this gets attacked over the next year or two by political opposition.
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500,000ags said:

I remember when the trans stuff first began popping off 10 years ago, and later seeing how the Dems became entrenched around the idea, I remember thinking, this is going to cost them because this is lunacy. Lunacy for a small minority that no majority will ever be able to understand, and there is a strong possibility this is rooted in actual mental health issues.

I have that same alarm going off now. Reps are going to regret HOW this is being done. We were promised criminals and violent *******s being deported, and yet it's the people that work our farms, build our homes, and evidently research and teach in our universities.

I'm sure someone will reply with snide BS, blah, blah, blah. But how this is being done, is not good, and a wild misrepresentation of an already questionable plan. It'll be interesting to see how this gets attacked over the next year or two by political opposition.



Bless your heart


To quote your fellow liberals "Know one is above the law"


THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT WE VOTED FOR
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Dirty-8-thirty Ag said:

You're right, not sure on why he never took care of the immigration issues, haven't seen him in a very long time. But I do know he isn't a bad guy or up to anything shady, but you are correct it was dumb to not take care of any immigration issues, especially if his GC did actually expire. I do not know that for a fact, but if indeed true, that's on him to get it taken care of and remain in good legal standing.

For the people asking what he did during his large gap in between school, pretty sure he worked for a large shipping company out of Houston for a long time before going back to school and changing career paths.

The 35 years as a permanent resident would be a huge red flag at any immigration entry (for any country). If he has never left the U.S. then this would not be an issue. Re-entry without a U.S. passport and 35 year green card would be. There are options for him, but they are limited.

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500,000ags said:

I remember when the trans stuff first began popping off 10 years ago, and later seeing how the Dems became entrenched around the idea, I remember thinking, this is going to cost them because this is lunacy. Lunacy for a small minority that no majority will ever be able to understand, and there is a strong possibility this is rooted in actual mental health issues.

I have that same alarm going off now. Reps are going to regret HOW this is being done. We were promised criminals and violent *******s being deported, and yet it's the people that work our farms, build our homes, and evidently research and teach in our universities.

I'm sure someone will reply with snide BS, blah, blah, blah. But how this is being done, is not good, and a wild misrepresentation of an already questionable plan. It'll be interesting to see how this gets attacked over the next year or two by political opposition.

I keep seeing this narrative in the media and F16 from our CMs: "We didn't vote for this" in regards to deportations. Sorry, yes we did. MAGA is thrilled with all of the deportations. We will probably need to create (re-create) a TEMPORARY work visa for the few million laborers required to keep the labor market from becoming too tight. We'll see.
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Successfully sneaking across the border and getting a job picking lettuce should not qualify one for amnesty. I want the borders completely closed!
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Dirty-8-thirty Ag said:


I grew up with this guy in Del Rio before we went to A&M. His little brother is a good friend of mine and so is Will, the guy being detained.

That's his sister in law in the picture. He went to S Korea for his little brother's wedding to the girl pictured above. Mike, Will's little brother is also an A&M undergrad/masters/doctorate degree holder that now teaches at KSU vet school.

This is a good dude, from a good family. I really hope he gets a fair shake at staying in the states. Yeah he got popped with like a gram of weed 14 years ago, but he did everything they asked him to do after he got in trouble & completed whatever programs/community service/probation the judge assigned to him.

But he didn't pursue citizenship. Seems he likes to break laws. Probably shouldn't have left the country once the lawless president went to a retirement home.
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I have that same alarm going off now. Reps are going to regret HOW this is being done. We were promised criminals and violent *******s being deported, and yet it's the people that work our farms, build our homes, and evidently research and teach in our universities.

I don't think you understand. WE WANT OUR LAWS ENFORCED. Everything happening now is because we have not enforced laws. Don't like it? Change the laws. We have an immigration process and people need to follow it. Feelings don't mean *****

I will not regret any of this.

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500,000ags said:

I remember when the trans stuff first began popping off 10 years ago, and later seeing how the Dems became entrenched around the idea, I remember thinking, this is going to cost them because this is lunacy. Lunacy for a small minority that no majority will ever be able to understand, and there is a strong possibility this is rooted in actual mental health issues.

I have that same alarm going off now. Reps are going to regret HOW this is being done. We were promised criminals and violent *******s being deported, and yet it's the people that work our farms, build our homes, and evidently research and teach in our universities.

I'm sure someone will reply with snide BS, blah, blah, blah. But how this is being done, is not good, and a wild misrepresentation of an already questionable plan. It'll be interesting to see how this gets attacked over the next year or two by political opposition.

Are you saying this is not being done? Because if you are, then you are woefully misinformed.

In the case we are discussing in this post, the immigration system and laws that are in place are being enforced. Unfortunately, this guy didn't take care of his business and he got caught by the system in the way it is designed to function. They didn't raid his home, they didn't "kidnap" him off the street. He violated the terms of his agreement, tried to come back in a port of entry and was detained by the system and laws that are in place. CBP are doing the day in day out, mundane job that they were hired to do on a daily basis. Your concern is noted but unwarranted.
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I am not a concerned anything - especially politically (maybe more so on a human level). So, I could not care less.

But, I can tell when something is stupid and likely a losing issue is all. I'm glad y'all are getting what you voted for, to the victor go the spoils.
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500,000ags said:

I am not a concerned anything - especially politically (maybe more so on a human level). So, I could not care less.

But, I can tell when something is stupid and likely a losing issue is all. I'm glad y'all are getting what you voted for, to the victor go the spoils.

Even Mexican-Americans disagree with you. People are tired of having our laws trampled on. We are tired of illegals having more rights than American citizens.

If this guy has followed the law, he will be fine. If not, I hope he has a place to stay in Seoul.
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I am half Mexican-American, and I can tell you many do support legal immigration (and Trump, in general), but they also do not like HOW it's being done and WHO is being targeted so early in the operation.
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Ellis Wyatt said:

Dirty-8-thirty Ag said:


I grew up with this guy in Del Rio before we went to A&M. His little brother is a good friend of mine and so is Will, the guy being detained.

That's his sister in law in the picture. He went to S Korea for his little brother's wedding to the girl pictured above. Mike, Will's little brother is also an A&M undergrad/masters/doctorate degree holder that now teaches at KSU vet school.

This is a good dude, from a good family. I really hope he gets a fair shake at staying in the states. Yeah he got popped with like a gram of weed 14 years ago, but he did everything they asked him to do after he got in trouble & completed whatever programs/community service/probation the judge assigned to him.

But he didn't pursue citizenship. Seems he likes to break laws. Probably shouldn't have left the country once the lawless president went to a retirement home.



Admittedly, I am not well versed in any part of the legal system, especially immigration law, but IF he was in legal standing with his green card status, what law did he really break to be detained currently? I don't know all of the details on why someone keeps a green card vs applying for citizenship, I just know he isn't a bad dude and if his GC isn't expired and he is here legally according to the paperwork he has, then what is the reason for being detained? Like I said earlier in a different reply, if he let anything lapse and expire, then it's on him and he should have taken care of it before trying to leave and re-enter the US.

I guess what I'm trying to say is if his paperwork/documentation is all in good standing, shouldn't he be let go to go back to school/work?
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500,000ags said:

I am half Mexican-American, and I can tell you many do support legal immigration (and Trump, in general), but they also do not like HOW it's being done and WHO is being targeted so early in the operation.

The WHO being targeted is criminals and people who encounter authorities.

People like this dummy did it to themselves. The guy is an abject moron for leaving the country. They're not going out and searching for illegals who aren't criminals.
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Admittedly, I am not well versed in any part of the legal system, especially immigration law, but IF he was in legal standing with his green card status, what law did he really break to be detained currently? I don't know all of the details on why someone keeps a green card vs applying for citizenship, I just know he isn't a bad dude and if his GC isn't expired and he is here legally according to the paperwork he has, then what is the reason for being detained? Like I said earlier in a different reply, if he let anything lapse and expire, then it's on him and he should have taken care of it before trying to leave and re-enter the US.

I guess what I'm trying to say is if his paperwork/documentation is all in good standing, shouldn't he be let go to go back to school/work?

People who have broken no laws get detained all the time until their situations are sorted out. That said, you are taking this guy's word for it. Sounds like "the Maryland dad."
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Criminal expanded from violent and problematic characters to criminal as in they are here illegally, therefore they are all targets now. That's not what people really supported IMO.
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We were promised criminals and violent *******s being deported, and yet it's the people that work our farms, build our homes, and evidently research and teach in our universities.

No they were promised to be the first group targeted. It does not mean that we stop enforcing the law when someone is caught being here illegally as collateral to enforcement of the first group.

Now if this guy's green card expired and he travel abroad, of course he's going to get picked up and deported since he NO LONGER have legal status to be in the US.
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500,000ags said:

Criminal expanded from violent and problematic characters to criminal as in they are here illegally, therefore they are all targets now. That's not what people really supported IMO.

Not really. They are not actively going out and picking up garden-variety illegals, though they certainly can. You're getting emotional about the issue. We must enforce our laws.
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500,000ags said:

Criminal expanded from violent and problematic characters to criminal as in they are here illegally, therefore they are all targets now. That's not what people really supported IMO.


I'll refer back to the post on the first page of this thread and ask you to let us know one country that doesn't enforce it's immigration laws.

It doesn't matter how nice the person is, or if they are not committing crimes, or how productive they are as a person. If you try to re-enter a country, any country, and you have an illegal status in that country, you are going to be deported, period.
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I'm not even a little bit emotional. It's a purely objective take.
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Admittedly, I am not well versed in any part of the legal system, especially immigration law, but IF he was in legal standing with his green card status, what law did he really break to be detained currently? I don't know all of the details on why someone keeps a green card vs applying for citizenship, I just know he isn't a bad dude and if his GC isn't expired and he is here legally according to the paperwork he has, then what is the reason for being detained? Like I said earlier in a different reply, if he let anything lapse and expire, then it's on him and he should have taken care of it before trying to leave and re-enter the US.

I guess what I'm trying to say is if his paperwork/documentation is all in good standing, shouldn't he be let go to go back to school/work?

People who have broken no laws get detained all the time until their situations are sorted out. That said, you are taking this guy's word for it. Sounds like "the Maryland dad."


Surely you aren't trying to equate the confirmed MS-13 gang member that was human trafficking to a guy working on his doctorate at A&M that was traveling back from a siblings wedding. Was Kilmer Abrego Garcia here on a green card/work visa or did he enter the country illegally?
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Given the state of much of the world right now, is anywhere (worth being) actually policing immigration? The EU is already overrun. Maybe China or rich Mid-East countries are also policing.
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500,000ags said:

I remember when the trans stuff first began popping off 10 years ago, and later seeing how the Dems became entrenched around the idea, I remember thinking, this is going to cost them because this is lunacy. Lunacy for a small minority that no majority will ever be able to understand, and there is a strong possibility this is rooted in actual mental health issues.

I have that same alarm going off now. Reps are going to regret HOW this is being done. We were promised criminals and violent *******s being deported, and yet it's the people that work our farms, build our homes, and evidently research and teach in our universities.



But that's a function of the media, isn't it? That's what they are desperately trying to get people to latch onto. It's a losing proposition to say 'ICE is deporting criminals to keep you safe'. That won't make this administration look bad. So they say, "its not what they're doing, it's how theyre doing it'.

First of all, immigration has been a complete mess. Often cleaning up a mess is...messy, and imperfect. So continually pointing out the imperfect fix for a mess someone else made is silly. However, I dont even think that's what this story is about.

What was bad about 'how' this was done? It's not like they raided his lab and arrested him. He was trying to enter our country. If he does have an expired green card, and was trying to re-enter the States without valid documentation...what are the agents supposed to do? Usher him in anyway? Disregard the law?

I have friends from Mexico and South America. They all came on visas, received their GC, and most have now become permanent Citizens. They concerned every time they had to go home and renew their visa. They were very careful throughout the process...skipping vacations, missing holidays with their family...because at times, they were waiting on renewals to arrive, green cards to be approved, etc. They didnt want to accidentally run afoul of the law, or simply cause a complication/miscommunication.

If it turns out his wasn't expired, and there are no other issues I'd tend to agree with you. But I'll be surprised if that's the case.
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500,000ags said:



I have that same alarm going off now. Reps are going to regret HOW this is being done. We were promised criminals and violent *******s being deported, and yet it's the people that work our farms, build our homes, and evidently research and teach in our universities.



Nope, polls support the deporations, ALL of them.
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500,000ags said:

Given the state of much of the world right now, is anywhere (worth being) actually policing immigration? The EU is already overrun. Maybe China or rich Mid-East countries are also policing.

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I don't know anything about this particular situation but Arnold said it very well.

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I really don't think is the guy we need to be going after when there are tons of actually dangerous people here illegally that we could be trying to remove instead of a guy that made a dumb mistake a long time ago but is in good legal standing today.


Who 'went after' him?

If his GC is expired, did he not do this to himself?
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500,000ags said:

Given the state of much of the world right now, is anywhere (worth being) actually policing immigration? The EU is already overrun. Maybe China or rich Mid-East countries are also policing.

We need to be aggressive policing immigration and removing any person out of status that ICE or CBP encounters.

Someone entering a POE that is removable is low hanging fruit that should be picked. The IJ can decide the merits of their individual case at the immigration removal proceedings, but the agents absolutely need to make those arrests when it literally falls into their laps.
 
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