There are plenty of people who steal a car and then drive it in an otherwise legal manner in order to not get caught driving a stolen car. I worked at a car dealership in high school. We had a salesman who stole a car for his wife to drive. She drove it for two years while he continued to work there. She brought the car in to the dealership he worked at for an oil change...

And if a cop notices a vehicle driving on the road with an expired registration sticker, he has a "legit" reason to pull the car over.

but shouldn't

Why not?

have you read the thread yet?

Yes I've read the thread.

Do you have a problem with having to register your vehicle? Or with having to display that it's registered? Or with the fact that an officer can tell that you are driving an unregistered vehicle?

I can understand if you have a problem with registering your vehicle I guess. I don't get why you'd be okay with registering but now with displaying the registration. If you're okay with registering it and displaying that registration, I don't know why you'd have a problem with an officer being able to tell that you are in violation.

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If you're okay with registering it and displaying that registration, I don't know why you'd have a problem with an officer being able to tell that you are in violation.

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This is at least the second time you've posted this.

I don't how know you can't see the difference.

One is where the cop looks at your sticker and sees that is overdue, and that is all he can tell.

The second is where for whatever reason, he runs your plates, sees on his computer that the resistration is overdue and pulls you over. But he also sees all other kinds of information even if your registration is current.

Why even have the sticker if they are going to just run the plates anyway??

If y'all don't mind people knowing anything and everything about you, fine. Print it and tape it to your damn window so everyone can see it. Don't call me paranoid just because I don't.

Y'all sure are willing to give a whole lot of power to people you don't know.

I'm also sick of y'all defending the Barney Fife's out there writing tickets. "Don't break the law." I tired of hearing that. There a lot of tickets written on judgement calls, like the one who got the ticket for chirping the tires.

It seems like a lot of you would rather have a bunch of Barney Fifes than Andy Taylors. If you don't know what that means, that's part of the problem. Andy kept the peace, Barney wrote tickets.

Markandles, the gift that keeps on giving.

Mnichols, who hasn't sobered up by 8:05 in the morning??? Breakfast beer?

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Solution: dint break the law.

I've noticed over the years that most txagers are also constitutional lawyers. I love how it's unconstitutional in this instance, yet a large share of these same posters has no problems when they linkedthec ystem to check if drivers had insurance.

Texags: the ultimate double standard.

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This is at least the second time you've posted this.

I don't how know you can't see the difference.

One is where the cop looks at your sticker and sees that is overdue, and that is all he can tell.

The second is where for whatever reason, he runs your plates, sees on his computer that the resistration is overdue and pulls you over. But he also sees all other kinds of information even if your registration is current.

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Actually, we are talking about the officer seeing the sticker now. Thanks for keeping up though.

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Why even have the sticker if they are going to just run the plates anyway??

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As someone previously stated, the "system" which officers use to check such information isn't 100% accurate. A sticker in the window is.

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If y'all don't mind people knowing anything and everything about you, fine. Print it and tape it to your damn window so everyone can see it. Don't call me paranoid just because I don't.

Y'all sure are willing to give a whole lot of power to people you don't know.

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No, I don't mind the law enforcement officers knowing that I'm following the law. I don't know what is wrong with that either.

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I'm also sick of y'all defending the Barney Fife's out there writing tickets. "Don't break the law." I tired of hearing that. There a lot of tickets written on judgement calls, like the one who got the ticket for chirping the tires.

It seems like a lot of you would rather have a bunch of Barney Fifes than Andy Taylors. If you don't know what that means, that's part of the problem. Andy kept the peace, Barney wrote tickets.

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I find it offensive that you're calling all police officers Barney Fifes. That is as ridiculous as it is ignorant. I'd like to hear you call the next cop who pulls you over Barney Fife. I assume that every officer who has ever pulled you over was an idiot too huh?

ALL tickets and arrests are made by a judgment call. That is why you have the opportunity to contest the ticket/arrest. Innocent until proven guilty wouldn't work any other way.

I think part of the disconnect here is that some of you guys think that the officer who issues the ticket is there to say that he is right and you are wrong. Which simply isn't the case. His job is to say "In my opinion, so-and-so was breaking this law". And it is then the "systems" job to convict you.

Isle,

maybe you'd be in favor of tattooing vaccination records to your arm?

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As someone previously stated, the "system" which officers use to check such information isn't 100% accurate. A sticker in the window is

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Exactly.

unfortunately, for class C misdemeanors, the "system" just does what the cop says 98% of the time.

Yall really need to quit being drama queens. The point is, the law does not recognize your PUBLICLY DISPLAYED license plate as being protected by the constitution as needing a warrant or probable cause to see if it is:

A: valid
B: not stolen
C: if you have insurance.

That's all a 28 gives you btw, Who the owner is, if it's stolen, and if you have insurance. And yes it is 100% accurate as to whether the sticker is valid. Whetherr your insurance is confirmed or not is the only thing that can be mistaken, and all it tells you is it's "unconfirmed", meaning the computer can't tell you yes or no.

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So, you agree that it's okay for an officer to pull you over if he sees your sticker is out of date? You said you didn't earlier.

Or you don't agree that he should be able to pull you over for violating the valid registration law?

I agree that pulling somebody over for what the computer says might be a stop for no reason.

If all you're going to do is dodge the question then I'm done.

not until you answer first.

I'm back.

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But he also sees all other kinds of information even if your registration is current.

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So this is your concern? Do you even know what information is given to the officer when he runs your plates? I'm betting not.

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I find it offensive that you're calling all police officers Barney Fifes. That is as ridiculous as it is ignorant. I'd like to hear you call the next cop who pulls you over Barney Fife. I assume that every officer who has ever pulled you over was an idiot too huh?

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I never said all cops were BF. Reread it. Good grief ...

Why wouldn't I say that? Are they going to beat the crap out of me if I do?? Quit acting like a banty rooster.

No, they aren't idiots. I've never argued a ticket or contested it. I've been guilty every time. I say thank you and pay it.

I'll tell you this though, if I think I'm getting jerked around, I'll say my piece. And I'll sit on the side of the road waiting for a search warrant before they find out there is nothing in my car.

I have nothing but appreciation for police. I think a lot of time the higher ups treat them like money machines though and pressure them to write tickets.

But don't kid yourself that all cops are great. There aren't that kind of odds in anything.

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So this is your concern? Do you even know what information is given to the officer when he runs your plates? I'm betting not.

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No, I don't. And I found out from this thread that that it's more that I did think they could see. Unless everyone on here is wrong.

My point is that without probable cause they shouldn't do it at all.

What's your point?

What would you like for me to answer?

I don't care one little bit if a cop runs my plate. If he finds that I am not in compliance with any law, then I expect him to pull me over and write me a ticket for it. WTF do you think the plate is there for?

markandles, you're right. You didn't say that ALL cops are Barney Fife. You certainly implied that the cops who are out writing tickets are Barney Fifes. I know all cops are great people. Hell, a month or so ago a group of cops beat the hell out of some guy cause he made them chase him. And they deserve more than they'll get for what they did to the reputation of every other officer out there.

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Nnichols, ho hasn't sobered up since 8:05?? Breakfast beer?

WTF??

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Isle,

maybe you'd be in favor of tattooing vaccination records to your arm?

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And, yes. I do not think a cop should ever pull you over for registration even if he/she sees the sticker. They have the registered owner's address on file. Mail them the fine, and allow an appeal. This eliminates false stops, and inconvenience while generating just as much revenue.

mn - looked your typing got a little wild there ...

Isle, I didn't ask you a question. I asked Hoss a question.

iPhone + deer blind = misspellings

Sit on a broomstick.

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No, I don't. And I found out from this thread that that it's more that I did think they could see. Unless everyone on here is wrong.

My point is that without probable cause they shouldn't do it at all.

What's your point?

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My point is you're seemingly upset because a police officer, who is presumably trustworthy, can find out who the vehicle you're driving belongs to and whether the registration (and possibly insurance) on that vehicle are up to date. And that somehow you think that is a violation of your right to privacy, which is ridiculous.

If you are THAT concerned about your privacy then by all means take the plates off of your car. That will give them the probable cause that you're so concerned about.

By the way, you should do an internet search on yourself and see what all you can dig up. After doing that the information that police officers receive when running your plates will be the least of your concerns.

two things come up for me on Google...

my involvement in the Aggie Pullers, and that I play 42... both are things that I like being public.

maybe you should be more careful.

Nevermind. It's not worth it.

By the way, I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that "you should be more careful" comment wasn't intended to be a threat.

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how could it possibly be construed as one using the topic at hand?

You sounded upset that there is a lot of information about you on google, and used that as an argument that privacy is dead. I googled myself, and found a whole two things that came up. I'm careful about what info I leak and where... if having your name return 1,000,000 hits on google bothers you... you should be more careful.

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Actually, if I simply Google my name I don't get any hits at all. I don't let much slip out. Lots for people sharing my name, but none for me. If you know where and how to look though, you can find out quite a bit of information about most anyone. It's called public records. Granted, with you still being a student and not having spent much time as an adult doing adult things, there will be less available on you than there will be on someone who has been around a while. Give it time though. It will come.

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why do you think I'm being a career student?

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No, I don't. And I found out from this thread that that it's more that I did think they could see. Unless everyone on here is wrong.

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No probable cause is needed for information displayed in public. And I assure I know EXACTLY what I can get off a 28. S

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And, yes. I do not think a cop should ever pull you over for registration even if he/she sees the sticker. They have the registered owner's address on file. Mail them the fine, and allow an appeal. This eliminates false stops, and inconvenience while generating just as much revenue.

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The offense that is ticketable is not having an unregistered vehicle. It is the operation of an unregistered vehicle on a public roadway that is an offense. Therefore the person driving is in care, custody and control of the vehicle, thus responsible for it, and certainly responsible for its operation at the time of stop.

once again, that needs to be fixed.

Is it the employee's fault that the company has not registered the vehicle?