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CC09LawAg
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Soup,

What kind of lifting are you doing/trying to do? Are you new to it or fairly acquainted with lifting?

I just ask because some apps do some things better than others. Some offer a ton of exercises, some craft workout plans for you, some give instructional videos, etc.
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Hey Soup - what worked for me was starting a basic PPL (push/pull/leg) split to start and then tweak as needed as I got stronger and started figuring out what I wanted my more specific goals to be.

Could be an option for you. Lots of ways to go about it.

I'm still doing my split as I'm happy with my results and it's working for me. Lots of guys on here do Stronglifts and love it.
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CC09LawAg said:

Soup,

What kind of lifting are you doing/trying to do? Are you new to it or fairly acquainted with lifting?

I just ask because some apps do some things better than others. Some offer a ton of exercises, some craft workout plans for you, some give instructional videos, etc.



Thanks,

I've already got a program, just want something to better track and give data than using notepad. It looks like Hevy suggested on the previous page is what I'm looking for
CC09LawAg
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Ready to upgrade my Rogue boneyard Ohio barbell - looking at Texas Power Bars.

What is a good fit for an all around powerlifting barbell? Just the original?

What's the functional difference in a 28.5mm vs 29mm shafter diameter?
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When you say powerlifting do you mean the big 3 (dead's, bench, squats)? The bar I want for squats and bench is totally different than that for dead's or even bent over rows. I cannot stand any whip in the bar for squat and bench but it's good for deadlifts.

I'd also go a step further and say how much rotation occurs on the bar can also be detrimental to bench/squat. The bar I have in my garage is a 28.5 but the plates rotate a lot on it and it drives me crazy. I don't think that is about the thickness but more of the type of bar it is.

Hoosegow can chime in with more technical insight I'm sure. I just know what I like and don't like for each lift but I couldn't tell you which model/brand to pick out.
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I'd say that, if I had to pick one, I'd prefer a bar that is best for my squat. I'm getting in the 400-500 pound range on my maxes and would prefer something that minimizes the whip. My Ohio bar also doesn't have center knurl and I think I'd like that just to feel like the bar is digging into my back a little more.

I think the Ohio bar I have is fine for my bench, I'm barely pushing over 300 there.

I think what I would want in a squat bar is probably completely different than what I'd want in a deadlift bar, so I may just ultimately end up buying a squat bar now that I think about it. But I'd like it to be close to what would be allowed at powerlifting competitions in the event I ever decide to compete.
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Other than the knurling, the things I like in a squat and bench bar are the same. You're going to feel to much whip in your squat range. I can feel it starting around 4 plates and hate it. Stiff bar eliminates the plates from "flapping" much better.
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That makes sense.

So I may go with a Texas original power bar for squat/bench, then eventually a deadlift bar. Ultimately the goal is for my Ohio bar to be my beater I can use for landmines/starting off my kids. They have to earn their way to the nice stuff!
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I have nothing to add to the thread other than my wife told me I was looking extra "beefy" the other day.

I guess the bulk is working.

Keep grinding gym bros.
CC09LawAg
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Yeah, I've had to get my wife to understand I don't want to hear "Oh you're looking thin".

Like I'm some kind of weak, noodle armed bird person!?
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Been there too.
10andBOUNCE
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CC09LawAg said:

Yeah, I've had to get my wife to understand I don't want to hear "Oh you're looking thin".

Like I'm some kind of weak, noodle armed bird person!?

First thought of the proper reaction.

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Little compliments like that are actually really awesome… or maybe that's just me
10andBOUNCE
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Have any of you garage gym bros kept up with this issue between Gluck and Vulcan?

Gluck did his normal review of the Vulcan Talon and was pretty negative and now Vulcan is suing him.
Review video is pretty entertaining.



Recent response by Gluck to the suit:

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I have never seen him before but his response did come up on my feed. Guy has a right to say what he wants and give his opinion and just the lawsuit about his actual opinion is enough for me to not buy from Vulcan.

https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-glucks-gym-defend-against-vulcan-strengths-lawsuit?modal=donations&tab=top

He has a gofundme for his legal expenses and the top two non-anonymous donors are competitors to Vulcan. That's just Chef's Kiss advertising.

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  • Iron Bull Strength
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    It's such a bad business practice to sue people just because you don't agree with their feedback. Anyone who actually builds and improves products knows that honest criticism is part of the product life cycle. It's how you make better gear and earn trust.


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Agree! Love seeing other companies supporting him. Even Bells of Steel, which Gluck has been somewhat negative about, chipped in.
CC09LawAg
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Imagine your friend recording you saying McDonald's fries aren't as good as they used to be then getting slapped with a lawsuit.
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22. After receiving the product, Gluck had multiple communications with Vulcan about assembly. Among other things, Gluck stated that he was missing some parts. Vulcan advised that new and improved parts were on order, and would be forwarded as soon as Vulcan received them.


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23. Gluck also identified some issues he said he was seeing with the TALOS product, including concerns about the assembly instructions and the tautness of the cables, but acknowledged that he hadn't yet been able to fully test due to the missing parts


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24. In response, Vulcan re-sent a full copy of the assembly instructions, including four detailed schematic pages and a six-page step-by-step assembly guide, and pointed out that a full 3D virtual model showing every detail of the product was available on Vulcan's website.


He shows the pages in the review and they suck balls, imo.
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26. In mid-August, Vulcan learned that the new parts would be delayed longer than expected. Vulcan advised Defendants of the delay, and offered that Defendants could either continue to wait for the parts, or alternatively Vulcan would send someone to disassemble and remove the TALOS equipment, and the parties could try again later once the upgraded parts had arrived.


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27. Gluck responded by inviting Vulcan to retrieve the product, saying "I don't have any way of shipping it back or I'd do that."


LOL, their lawsuit even details the problems he had with their product prior to the review.

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b. Gluck claims in the video that the grooves of the pulleys are too small for "these big, thick cables." The cables are 5mm in diameter and the pulley grooves are 9mm wide, providing a proper fit.

In the video, he shows that the pulleys are different sizes and they go from the bigger ones to really small ones.

2m38s cued up here:



He shows and explains it and they are saying here the pulleys are all 9mm, which seems to be false as the other pulleys are clearly smaller. Are they lying on a court document submitted under oath?

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d. Gluck states that Vulcan's directions don't say how to install the rear crossmember, causing him to install it upside down. The crossmember only has holes on one side so it can only logically be installed one way, and the instructions clearly show the

The instructions (shown in video) were not clear, imo.

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f. Gluck claims falsely that the lat pull up bar doesn't fit properly. It does when the product is assembled per the instructions.

IDK, maybe create better instructions if someone who professionally puts this **** together and seems like a decently intelligent person is confused by it. He shows at 8:30 in his video how and why it doesn't fit.

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h. Gluck says the low row function is too low, calling it "the world's lowest low row." Some competing products have a lower low row, such as one offered by Rep Fitness which Defendants reviewed favorably.

Opinions are not defamatory, even if wrong.

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32. Each of the above statements, as well as others throughout Defendants' video, were objectively false, and upon information and belief were known by Defendants to be false at the time they were made, or alternatively were made by Defendants without reasonable basis and Defendants failed to exercise ordinary care to determine whether the statements were false

Based on watching this video, I think this assertion is false. He visibly showed the problems and the lawsuit details his problems with the company before filming.

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e. Gluck concludes by saying, "If I was one of the people that spent my money on this, I'd be pissed."

Yeah, I mean for $4500, I certainly would be pissed if it didn't have good instructions, didn't have all the parts, parts were backordered or didn't arrive promptly, etc. I think that is a valid opinion... and it is clearly opinion.


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Upon information and belief, Defendants have active affiliate relationships with Rogue Fitness, Rep Fitness, and other large equipment manufacturers, which generate significant revenue for Defendants. 35. These relationships create a dilemma for Defendants, because Defendants' appeal in the marketplace depends on cultivating a reputation for fearless, hard-hitting reviews, but negative reviews of products from the large manufacturers would impact Defendants' revenue. 36. Defendants' solution was to fabricate a negative and incendiary "review" of the product of a small manufacturer, enabling Defendants to portray themselves as crusaders while protecting the competitive interests of the dominant companies in the industry who generate most of Defendants' revenue.

He had a relationship with Vulcan in the same manner, though. So praising Vulcan would have likely gotten him more money by selling products.

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44. Defendants' video misrepresents the nature, characteristics, and qualities of Vulcan's TALOS product.

IDK, it seems to represent his experience.

I believe when he says his experience with Vulcan and their customer service was negative when they sue him for saying that and demonstrating the problems he had with the product.

CC09LawAg
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Well, I broke down and have two Texas Power Bars coming - a squat bar and a deadlift bar.

I figured I haven't earned a nice bench bar yet, so I'm going to see how much of a difference these can make for my lower body lifts.
 
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