My least favorite thing about high school soccer…

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In reply to Rudyjax • 7:00p, 4/12/25
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SCHTICK00 said:
Cedar Park and Consol both took Dallas to the woodshed. Total domination by both schools


And District 5 6A will win 2 state titles in 6A.


And they did.

Pretty impressive to have both 6A girls champs from the same district.
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In reply to Mathguy64 • 11:03p, 4/12/25
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Mathguy64 said:
One game? So grades? Maybe card accumulation that someone missed?

What a screw up.
I tend to think these things aren't as innocent. One game is never the case. Someone knew for a while. Frisco Heritage had games forfeited last season for accepting a transfer by a player that was a former MLS Next Academy member and never lived in the Heritage attendance zone. He didn't even attend the high school; rather took HS classes online.

But this player had shopped himself around to other programs in several school districts until he found one that said yes and took him. My point is there were 5-10-15-however many coaches that DECLINED him already. So they knew he was illegal and never reported it, probably until it was convenient for them.

HP knew this player was illegal or ineligible BEFORE the championship game started and still played him. THat's not an innocent mistake. That's intentional.

This ain't new either. It's been happening for decades. Quinn Ewers was ineligible to play football at SLC after the football coaches moved him to Southlake from damn Oklahoma. So he "graduated" HS and went to Ohio State early so he could get NIL money. Art Briles cheated at Stephenville, he cheated at Houston, he cheated at Baylor, and then he cheated at Mt. Vernon. So stupid to cheat in high school sports.
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In reply to Rudyjax • 7:16a, 4/13/25
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Rudyjax said:
SCHTICK00 said:
Cedar Park and Consol both took Dallas to the woodshed. Total domination by both schools


And District 5 6A will win 2 state titles in 6A.


And they did.

Pretty impressive to have both 6A girls champs from the same district.


Cedar Park was really good all year. Couple of my daughter's club teammates are on that team.

We are at one of the 6A schools in LISD but scrimmaged them. I also thought it was cool that 3/4 6A regional finalists on the girls side in 6A were from the same district out of RRISD and LISD. The 6A schools in that district outside Hutto and RRHS aren't all that big either.
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In reply to jessexy • 9:36a, 4/13/25
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jessexy said:
Mathguy64 said:
One game? So grades? Maybe card accumulation that someone missed?

What a screw up.
I tend to think these things aren't as innocent. One game is never the case. Someone knew for a while. Frisco Heritage had games forfeited last season for accepting a transfer by a player that was a former MLS Next Academy member and never lived in the Heritage attendance zone. He didn't even attend the high school; rather took HS classes online.

But this player had shopped himself around to other programs in several school districts until he found one that said yes and took him. My point is there were 5-10-15-however many coaches that DECLINED him already. So they knew he was illegal and never reported it, probably until it was convenient for them.

HP knew this player was illegal or ineligible BEFORE the championship game started and still played him. THat's not an innocent mistake. That's intentional.

This ain't new either. It's been happening for decades. Quinn Ewers was ineligible to play football at SLC after the football coaches moved him to Southlake from damn Oklahoma. So he "graduated" HS and went to Ohio State early so he could get NIL money. Art Briles cheated at Stephenville, he cheated at Houston, he cheated at Baylor, and then he cheated at Mt. Vernon. So stupid to cheat in high school sports.


The story on the HP kid was going to be eligible at the end of the school day which was 3:30pm. Championship game started at 1:30pm
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In reply to Aggie97 • 11:12a, 4/13/25
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Aggie97 said:
jessexy said:
Mathguy64 said:
One game? So grades? Maybe card accumulation that someone missed?

What a screw up.
I tend to think these things aren't as innocent. One game is never the case. Someone knew for a while. Frisco Heritage had games forfeited last season for accepting a transfer by a player that was a former MLS Next Academy member and never lived in the Heritage attendance zone. He didn't even attend the high school; rather took HS classes online.

But this player had shopped himself around to other programs in several school districts until he found one that said yes and took him. My point is there were 5-10-15-however many coaches that DECLINED him already. So they knew he was illegal and never reported it, probably until it was convenient for them.

HP knew this player was illegal or ineligible BEFORE the championship game started and still played him. THat's not an innocent mistake. That's intentional.

This ain't new either. It's been happening for decades. Quinn Ewers was ineligible to play football at SLC after the football coaches moved him to Southlake from damn Oklahoma. So he "graduated" HS and went to Ohio State early so he could get NIL money. Art Briles cheated at Stephenville, he cheated at Houston, he cheated at Baylor, and then he cheated at Mt. Vernon. So stupid to cheat in high school sports.


The story on the HP kid was going to be eligible at the end of the school day which was 3:30pm. Championship game started at 1:30pm


Grades?
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In reply to Rudyjax • 12:02p, 4/13/25
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Rudyjax said:
Aggie97 said:
jessexy said:
Mathguy64 said:
One game? So grades? Maybe card accumulation that someone missed?

What a screw up.
I tend to think these things aren't as innocent. One game is never the case. Someone knew for a while. Frisco Heritage had games forfeited last season for accepting a transfer by a player that was a former MLS Next Academy member and never lived in the Heritage attendance zone. He didn't even attend the high school; rather took HS classes online.

But this player had shopped himself around to other programs in several school districts until he found one that said yes and took him. My point is there were 5-10-15-however many coaches that DECLINED him already. So they knew he was illegal and never reported it, probably until it was convenient for them.

HP knew this player was illegal or ineligible BEFORE the championship game started and still played him. THat's not an innocent mistake. That's intentional.

This ain't new either. It's been happening for decades. Quinn Ewers was ineligible to play football at SLC after the football coaches moved him to Southlake from damn Oklahoma. So he "graduated" HS and went to Ohio State early so he could get NIL money. Art Briles cheated at Stephenville, he cheated at Houston, he cheated at Baylor, and then he cheated at Mt. Vernon. So stupid to cheat in high school sports.


The story on the HP kid was going to be eligible at the end of the school day which was 3:30pm. Championship game started at 1:30pm


Grades?


Yes it was grades. He failed the 6 weeks. They look at your grades now in 3 weeks. If you are passing you are eligible at the end of the school day the 3 weeks end. Back in my day you were out the whole 6 weeks.
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In reply to Aggie97 • 12:46p, 4/13/25
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Aggie97 said:
Rudyjax said:
Aggie97 said:
jessexy said:
Mathguy64 said:
One game? So grades? Maybe card accumulation that someone missed?

What a screw up.
I tend to think these things aren't as innocent. One game is never the case. Someone knew for a while. Frisco Heritage had games forfeited last season for accepting a transfer by a player that was a former MLS Next Academy member and never lived in the Heritage attendance zone. He didn't even attend the high school; rather took HS classes online.

But this player had shopped himself around to other programs in several school districts until he found one that said yes and took him. My point is there were 5-10-15-however many coaches that DECLINED him already. So they knew he was illegal and never reported it, probably until it was convenient for them.

HP knew this player was illegal or ineligible BEFORE the championship game started and still played him. THat's not an innocent mistake. That's intentional.

This ain't new either. It's been happening for decades. Quinn Ewers was ineligible to play football at SLC after the football coaches moved him to Southlake from damn Oklahoma. So he "graduated" HS and went to Ohio State early so he could get NIL money. Art Briles cheated at Stephenville, he cheated at Houston, he cheated at Baylor, and then he cheated at Mt. Vernon. So stupid to cheat in high school sports.


The story on the HP kid was going to be eligible at the end of the school day which was 3:30pm. Championship game started at 1:30pm


Grades?


Yes it was grades. He failed the 6 weeks. They look at your grades now in 3 weeks. If you are passing you are eligible at the end of the school day the 3 weeks end. Back in my day you were out the whole 6 weeks.


What a moron. It's literally impossible to fail high school lol if you turn in the work.
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In reply to Rudyjax • 12:50p, 4/13/25
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Rudyjax said:
Aggie97 said:
Rudyjax said:
Aggie97 said:
jessexy said:
Mathguy64 said:
One game? So grades? Maybe card accumulation that someone missed?

What a screw up.
I tend to think these things aren't as innocent. One game is never the case. Someone knew for a while. Frisco Heritage had games forfeited last season for accepting a transfer by a player that was a former MLS Next Academy member and never lived in the Heritage attendance zone. He didn't even attend the high school; rather took HS classes online.

But this player had shopped himself around to other programs in several school districts until he found one that said yes and took him. My point is there were 5-10-15-however many coaches that DECLINED him already. So they knew he was illegal and never reported it, probably until it was convenient for them.

HP knew this player was illegal or ineligible BEFORE the championship game started and still played him. THat's not an innocent mistake. That's intentional.

This ain't new either. It's been happening for decades. Quinn Ewers was ineligible to play football at SLC after the football coaches moved him to Southlake from damn Oklahoma. So he "graduated" HS and went to Ohio State early so he could get NIL money. Art Briles cheated at Stephenville, he cheated at Houston, he cheated at Baylor, and then he cheated at Mt. Vernon. So stupid to cheat in high school sports.


The story on the HP kid was going to be eligible at the end of the school day which was 3:30pm. Championship game started at 1:30pm


Grades?


Yes it was grades. He failed the 6 weeks. They look at your grades now in 3 weeks. If you are passing you are eligible at the end of the school day the 3 weeks end. Back in my day you were out the whole 6 weeks.


What a moron. It's literally impossible to fail high school lol if you turn in the work.


Coaches should have never had the kid on the sideline in uniform. Those grade eligibility rules are probably the most straightforward of any of the UIL rules. There's a calendar with dates and times. Sucks for all the kids on the team that they lost their title because a coach screwed up a basic administrative task.
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1:12p, 4/13/25
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A grade related suspension would have meant he wasn't eligible going back to effectively round 1. What he was doing dressed and on the bench is something those coaches will have to answer for.
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In reply to Mathguy64 • 9:48p, 4/13/25
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A grade related suspension would have meant he wasn't eligible going back to effectively round 1. What he was doing dressed and on the bench is something those coaches will have to answer for.


So did he not play in the playoffs prior? Or did they literally just discover his ineligibility after the title game? Or did they know at some point in between and just say **** it let's keep playing, try to win this thing, then turn ourselves in after we win the whole thing?
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In reply to tylercsbn9 • 10:33p, 4/13/25
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Mathguy64 said:
A grade related suspension would have meant he wasn't eligible going back to effectively round 1. What he was doing dressed and on the bench is something those coaches will have to answer for.


So did he not play in the playoffs prior? Or did they literally just discover his ineligibility after the title game? Or did they know at some point in between and just say **** it let's keep playing, try to win this thing, then turn ourselves in after we win the whole thing?


Probably did not play prior playoff games. Again he was going to be eligible by the end of the school day on Friday which was about 3:30 pm. Championship game started at 1:30. The teacher was watching the game and notified the coaching staff after the game.
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11:44p, 4/13/25
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cheating is cheating
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7:04a, 4/14/25
Either way, the coaches did know better or they should have known better. The UIL is very clear on this issue. Now other coaches in that district will have another training to go through because of these knuckleheads.
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12:43p, 4/14/25
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I think four teams in the soccer playoffs this year had to forfeit for one violation or another.

I think the following were some of the causes:
ineligible player from out of district
ineligible player from academics
practicing on Sunday

All of these rules are pretty black/white in the UIL handbook and should be known to all coaches.

Obviously, there are some training/understanding of UIL rules issues at play here. I know most districts do a CYA UIL training at the beginning of the year but the number of violations for simple issues is strange. I wonder if the closeness of high school soccer and club/select skews the understanding of rules on the soccer side some as compared to other sports.
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4:31p, 4/14/25
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The team that practiced on Sunday only had the coaches suspended for the next game. The team played and won I think.
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4:11p, 5/9/25
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Now that all the end of year high school stuff has wrapped up, is everyone enjoying this lovely part of club season where it feels like living in an espionage thriller as people think about moving clubs, talk in the shadows, mysterious girls appear and disappear at training, and endless promises of treasure are made about next year?

For us, we are debating a club switch for the first time in our entire career. We've been with Space City FC -> Dynamo/Dash -> HTX our entire career. We're moving up to GA, but we basically have to decide between a dual roster situation at HTX where we would have to fight for playing time on the GA level, and then be able to pick up minutes at the GA2 level, or a move to Rise GA and basically step right into playing time.

She's been one of the top players on her GA2 team for a few years now so it's time to make the jump. The hard part is that, because of the birth year approach, it's the year when it's basically a team and a half worth of girls together for these final two years so rosters are crowded (around 22-23 girls on each roster).

HTX is the better team, so the training is more intense and might make her better, but it will be a fight. It kind of falls under the "bet on yourself" category. She feels it will be tough but that she'll be able to beat girls out. Jumping on Rise would offer her more playing time and ability to make showcase events, but the level of competition within the team might not be as high (iron sharpens iron).

In addition, next year will be the first year of GA Aspire, which is the new league that is an official second level to GA. They promise better scheduling and competition and national showcases, but those are all promises of a brand new league at this point.

Should be a fun week or so of anxiety as we make a decision.
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In reply to Jim01 • 7:34p, 5/9/25
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My 9 year olds team is like a damn soap opera. We lost a semifinal 9-0 last weekend and everyone has lost their minds. may not have enough to field a squad tomorrow. I can't wait until senior level.
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In reply to Jim01 • 11:43p, 5/9/25
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I know you didn't ask for advice, but my advice is to make the decision together as a family and consider only what's best for your family. Don't think about what's best for the team or the club or the coach or, maybe, even the future. Your family should be the main consideration.

We had to make the difficult decision to quit club soccer altogether. The primary reason was that my daughter realized that her mom wouldn't take her to practice one day a week, and she realized that it would be a burden on me to drive an hour to pick her up, then 45 mins back to practice and the same thing after practice. I was prepared to make that drive once a week. And, had my daughter committed, I'd have made the drive twice a week. Ultimately, my daughter was mature enough to have the conversation with me when two adults couldn't come together for her benefit. And I'm most proud of her for that, not anything she does on the HS field.
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In reply to jessexy • 11:27a, 5/10/25
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Good advice.

My daughter's 16 so she can drive to practice so that helps a lot. The Rise practice is a consistent 35-40 min drive but 4 days a week, HTX involves one drive to The Woodlands a week (1:45 there and 1:00 back) each week.

We definitely plan to do what's best for us, just a hard decision since it's always a gamble leaving a team you know well and are a big dawg on.
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