*** ALIEN: EARTH *** (FX Series)

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jeffk said:

Yeah, I remember that. But there's no way this group are somehow the one's responsible for successfully capturing all these specimens.

That's what I'm wondering- Who assembled the zoo the crew is transporting?

Cherub Rock is great. The credits soundtrack continues to not disappoint.
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Muy said:

Love Alien shows but since I was a kid I never understood why so many extra steps to create an Alien…

Alien lays egg?
Egg only opens up when life form gets close
When egg opens, spider/stingray climbs up and attaches it to life forms face
Spider/stingray inserts tube into life form to release another life form (a baby Alien)
Baby alien gets inside of another life form to incubate
Once baby Alien incubates long enough, it rips its way out of 2nd life form
New toddler Alien gets away and grows on its own

Makes for fun sci fi but makes zero sense, especially for the spider/stingray who grows in the egg and once it comes out and pumps a baby alien into someone, it dies.

The idea is that the facehugger isn't really a separate life form, it's actually the larval stage of a xenomorph.
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Muy said:

Love Alien shows but since I was a kid I never understood why so many extra steps to create an Alien…

Alien lays egg?
Egg only opens up when life form gets close
When egg opens, spider/stingray climbs up and attaches it to life forms face
Spider/stingray inserts tube into life form to release another life form (a baby Alien)
Baby alien gets inside of another life form to incubate
Once baby Alien incubates long enough, it rips its way out of 2nd life form
New toddler Alien gets away and grows on its own

Makes for fun sci fi but makes zero sense, especially for the spider/stingray who grows in the egg and once it comes out and pumps a baby alien into someone, it dies.

Pretty common life cycle of many parasites..

Most just are not do dang lethal!

Grok clip for those wanting evidence.

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### General Stages of Parasite Life Cycles
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- **Example**: For *Plasmodium* (malaria), sporozoites are transmitted via mosquito bites.
- Transmission routes include contaminated food/water, insect vectors, skin penetration, or direct contact.

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- This stage may involve asexual reproduction (e.g., protozoa) or growth into adult forms (e.g., helminths).

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- **Example**: Adult *Taenia* (tapeworm) in the intestines releases eggs that are shed in feces.
- Some parasites (e.g., *Plasmodium*) reproduce asexually in the host, while others (e.g., helminths) produce eggs for transmission.

4. **Transmission**: Parasites exit the host to infect new hosts or vectors, often through bodily fluids, feces, or vectors.
- **Example**: *Giardia* cysts are excreted in feces and contaminate water, infecting new hosts upon ingestion.
- Vectors like mosquitoes (*Plasmodium*) or fleas (*Trypanosoma*) may facilitate transmission.

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- **Example**: *Taenia* eggs are ingested by pigs (intermediate host), where they develop into cysticerci before infecting humans via undercooked pork.

### Examples of Specific Parasite Life Cycles
- **Protozoa (e.g., *Giardia lamblia*)**:
- Cysts ingested via contaminated water/food Excyst in intestines Trophozoites multiply asexually Form cysts Excreted in feces Infect new hosts.
- **Helminths (e.g., *Ascaris lumbricoides*, roundworm)**:
- Eggs in contaminated soil/food ingested Hatch in intestines Larvae migrate to lungs via bloodstream Coughed up and swallowed Mature into adults in intestines Produce eggs Excreted in feces.
- **Ectoparasites (e.g., *Pediculus humanus*, head lice)**:
- Eggs (nits) laid on hair Hatch into nymphs Mature into adults Feed on blood and reproduce Lay eggs on host.

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P.H. Dexippus said:

jeffk said:

Yeah, I remember that. But there's no way this group are somehow the one's responsible for successfully capturing all these specimens.

That's what I'm wondering- Who assembled the zoo the crew is transporting?

Cherub Rock is great. The credits soundtrack continues to not disappoint.

And I agree. The quality of worker that is willing to sacrifice 65 years of family and friends would be iffy at best.
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Nitpicking the life cycle of an alien life form? Man there are animals on earth that do crazier stuff than that. Zero issues with that for me.
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My understanding is the xenomorph that is injected in the host takes some of the host DNA to complete its metamorphosis. Considering they reproduce via a queen laying eggs, there doesn't appear to be any "males" mating with the queen. So it kind of makes sense that in order to prevent each new generation being just clones, it would need a host to get new DNA and reproduce. Nature finds a way.
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P.H. Dexippus said:

jeffk said:

Yeah, I remember that. But there's no way this group are somehow the one's responsible for successfully capturing all these specimens.

That's what I'm wondering- Who assembled the zoo the crew is transporting?

Cherub Rock is great. The credits soundtrack continues to not disappoint.


Gen X are the new Boomers as far as pandering, and it's been great. It dawned on me back when Apple had an ad with a cover of the Pixies' Gigantic.
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Faustus said:

P.H. Dexippus said:

jeffk said:

Yeah, I remember that. But there's no way this group are somehow the one's responsible for successfully capturing all these specimens.

That's what I'm wondering- Who assembled the zoo the crew is transporting?

Cherub Rock is great. The credits soundtrack continues to not disappoint.


Gen X are the new Boomers as far as pandering, and it's been great. It dawned on me back when Apple had an ad with a cover of the Pixies' Gigantic.

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The relative ineptitude of the crew makes total sense for the reasons described.

What cracked me up was the running from the xeno. Is it fast or is it slow? Maybe it is just getting its footing? And in a ship the size of a city block, they sure happened into the CRITICAL CONTAINMENT AREA a lot.
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cajunaggie08 said:

My understanding is the xenomorph that is injected in the host takes some of the host DNA to complete its metamorphosis. Considering they reproduce via a queen laying eggs, there doesn't appear to be any "males" mating with the queen. So it kind of makes sense that in order to prevent each new generation being just clones, it would need a host to get new DNA and reproduce. Nature finds a way.

I remember Alien 3 had a facehugger that attached itself to a dog and the resulting xenomorph had some doglike qualities in its legs.
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Quad Dog said:

cajunaggie08 said:

My understanding is the xenomorph that is injected in the host takes some of the host DNA to complete its metamorphosis. Considering they reproduce via a queen laying eggs, there doesn't appear to be any "males" mating with the queen. So it kind of makes sense that in order to prevent each new generation being just clones, it would need a host to get new DNA and reproduce. Nature finds a way.

I remember Alien 3 had a facehugger that attached itself to a dog and the resulting xenomorph had some doglike qualities in its legs.


Correct.
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Ol Jock 99 said:

The relative ineptitude of the crew makes total sense for the reasons described.

What cracked me up was the running from the xeno. Is it fast or is it slow? Maybe it is just getting its footing? And in a ship the size of a city block, they sure happened into the CRITICAL CONTAINMENT AREA a lot.

When hottie captain was running away, it was like she had superspeed to stay that far ahead of the Xeno.
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I noticed that too. One moment it's right on her heels, the next moment she hit the big red button and left it in her dust.
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Quad Dog said:

cajunaggie08 said:

My understanding is the xenomorph that is injected in the host takes some of the host DNA to complete its metamorphosis. Considering they reproduce via a queen laying eggs, there doesn't appear to be any "males" mating with the queen. So it kind of makes sense that in order to prevent each new generation being just clones, it would need a host to get new DNA and reproduce. Nature finds a way.

I remember Alien 3 had a facehugger that attached itself to a dog and the resulting xenomorph had some doglike qualities in its legs.


Had something similar (host affecting the xenomorph) in Romulus as well.
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Catching up as I didn't post on last week's, there's some minor nitpicks but these last two eps have been great. The newest episode was fantastic, definitely shades of the original film. And if you didn't catch the episode name:
In Space, No One?

Interesting to me that all of the alien life forms we've seen so far are parasites, from the worms to Eyeball to the facehugger/xenomorph they all require some sort of host to either reproduce or evolve. And geez the scientist in the lab was giving me a heart attack. It was fascinating how Eyeball was trying to warn her about the worms though, I don't know if he had affection for her because she'd been taking care of him or he just didn't like the worms.

Something that I didn't entirely follow: after Eyeball takes over the engineer and is confronted by Morrow he calls out to the Xenomorph for backup, and when the Xenomorph comes in Morrow zaps Eyeball and runs out of the room. But then Eyeball gets up and immediately attacks the Xenomorph when they're face to face. (Also, Eyeball's little sneer to the XO as his tentacle lifted the corner of the Engineer's mouth was awesome.)

Morrow's dedication to the mission has been interesting too, he seemed to be trying to help the XO when he came in and saw her knocked out by the Xenomorph then locked her out of the bridge just a few minutes later.
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Maybe Eyeball is a good guy? Or at least an enemy of the Xenos.
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The showrunner on his podcast said T Oculus was not trying to warn Chibuzo, but distracting her from seeing the tick escape.

Later, it did seem more interested in fighting the Xeno than killing Morrow or the chick. Hopefully we will get some more exposition on why that was in later episodes
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Perhaps the eyeball knew the science officer was lax on protocol and its best means of escape is to keep her alive and not sucked dry of blood.
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zap said:

Maybe Eyeball is a good guy? Or at least an enemy of the Xenos.

I definitely don't think it is a good guy, but it going nuts on the xeno was pretty interesting.
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The eyeball xeno is my favorite so far. So creepy and crafty.
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Ol Jock 99 said:

zap said:

Maybe Eyeball is a good guy? Or at least an enemy of the Xenos.

I definitely don't think it is a good guy, but it going nuts on the xeno was pretty interesting.


Eyeball is by far the most competent character on the show so far
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I was wondering about its motivation in the scene on the bridge. It seemed to be trying to communicate with the captain before then attacking the Xenomorph. Not that it's interested in anything beyond self preservation, but clearly it seemed to have a plan.

Having seen that, I am a bit surprised it got itself caught again after the crash.
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This episode was so good that I now have absolutely no desire to rejoin the kids and their story. The rest of this season, and all subsequent seasons, should focus on Morrow front and center. Well, Morrow and the Ocellus. Basically Mando & Grogu, but in the Alien franchise. It would be amazing. Seriously, though, Marrow as a character, and the actor playing him (Babou Ceesay), are absolutely killing it.
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Amen. Going with the group of kids and whatever Neverland parallel they're trying to make was a mistake. But this week's episode, THIS, was what I was hoping for when they announced this series.
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They've set up an intriguing three way showdown though. We have Morrow & Eyeball and their forces vs Boy K and his forces (which may or may not include the kid synths) vs Wendy and her bro and maybe her Zeno friend.
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I don't think the Neverland theme and the kid synths was a mistake per se. I look at that as world building by giving us a glimpse of life on earth in 2120 - the political alignment of various areas of the planets, with corporations having supplanted governments, technological advances given more focus rather than "He's a robot!" such as Parker yelled after decapitating Ash. I'm really liking the deeper exploration of life in this timeline than any previous Alien movie has given us.

Where the first 4 episodes' focus on the kid synths is problematic is that it felt a bit like a swing and a miss - much like Prometheus suffered from - in that there was not enough xenomorph action despite featuring the word "Alien" in its title. Unlike Prometheus (which I rank as #3 in the overall series, so I do like that movie and what Scott did with it quite a bit), Alien: Earth has given us some xenomorph action as well as introducing all these other extraterrestrials. Most particularly, the eyeball octopus thing is freaking awesome.

Episode 5 was genius in its timing and overall what it depicts. The episode served to break the focus on the kid synth storyline. But more importantly, this was the best Alien content since Aliens in 1986. It was a love letter to the original movie, as it was very clear what Hawley thinks of Alien by essentially updating that movie in that one episode, but doing so in a way that did not come across as derivative or contrived, or throwing in fan service or shoehorning in Ellen Ripley in some way.

Then we get to the Morrow character. I didn't initially care much for the character, but like someone else said, he has become the show's best character. The growth in his character has brought him from just a surly man who may or may not be a synth to one that the audience is fully invested in, with the death of his daughter and all the loss he has suffered just by being in space for all these years. I'm really interested to see where his story is going from here on out.
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There are a lot of Peter Pan parallels that are working with this show.
Peter Pan book spoilers:
Neverland is a place all kids have access to but lose that access when you age, but retain memories. Like only kids can be hybrids.
Boy Kavalier is clearly Pan. Doesn't want to grow up, recruits the Lost Boys, it's implied in the book Pan kills the Lost Boys when they age (foreshadowing), Pan looks into the nursery windows to something he doesn't have (motherly love) like Boy looks through the eyes of Hybrids
Morrow is Hook with one arm.
Wendy can hear the xenomorph like the clock in the crocodile.
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Quad Dog said:

There are a lot of Peter Pan parallels that are working with this show.
Peter Pan book spoilers:
Neverland is a place all kids have access to but lose that access when you age, but retain memories. Like only kids can be hybrids.
Boy Kavalier is clearly Pan. Doesn't want to grow up, recruits the Lost Boys, it's implied in the book Pan kills the Lost Boys when they age (foreshadowing), Pan looks into the nursery windows to something he doesn't have (motherly love) like Boy looks through the eyes of Hybrids
Morrow is Hook with one arm.
Wendy can hear the xenomorph like the clock in the crocodile.


I get the parallels....I'm just not nearly as interested in them as the show clearly wants me to be. The last episode, which included none of that stuff, was 10x better than the previous four episodes.
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What would have been the best way to tell the story of the Maginot?
A single separate episode like we got.
~10 minute cold open to every episode of the regular show.
Flashbacks spaced throughout.
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Quad Dog said:

What would have been the best way to tell the story of the Maginot?
A single suffered episode like we got.
~10 minute cold open to every episode of the regular show.
Flashbacks spaced throughout.



All I know is the single episode we got was awesome
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Agree. So good it could have been a summer blockbuster 2 hour movie ending in the crash. Episode one of the show picks up the story from there.
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A Xeno controlled by the eye alien would be pretty awesome, but I guess that isn't going to materialize since it didn't come out of the crash.
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Xenomorphs don't have eyes
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I understand that, but they have some sort of brain or decision making cluster that could potentially be controlled. Just thought it would be cool if another alien could control a super killing machine.
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The acid blood would probably be an issue as well
 
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