Kimmel Pulled Off Air Indefinitely

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So many missing the forest for the trees here.

I don't have strong feelings about Kimmel one way or the other, and if ABC wanted to fire him that was their choice (though I thought his comments would have been much more inflammatory given the uproar). But the fact that the FCC chair is talking about wanting to sanction or take away licenses from media companies for things they say should be a massive red flag.

This isn't the first time that this admin has advocated for companies to fire specific employees for saying things they didn't like (again, massive red flag). Getting fired for an opinion that your employer didn't like is very different than getting fired for celebrating someone's death.

Did the "other side" do some of this as well? To an extent, and that was wrong too. But they didn't literally call for people to fired or tell reporters asking about free speech to their face that they might be next. We have media companies sending out memos to their employees telling them not to post negatively about a public figure who died. That's kind of insane.

You should find this alarming whatever side of the aisle you're on, because at some point your party isn't going to be the one in charge.
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Since when is it illegal to lie on public airwaves, especially on a show presenting itself as a comedy show?
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schmendeler said:



They can mock all they want and have been doing it for years, so spare me.

Like I said above, how was this a sustainable business model in this new age of content accessibility when you put yourself behind the 8 ball by angering half the country. On what should be a comedy-centric program.

What about "bringing people together"? Not as important as piling on?
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If this were true, shouldn't CNN, Fox News, et al have been taken off the air years ago? Both lie all the damn time. In fact, countless lies about crimes have been told on television for decades. Maybe there's some super random caveat in this particular instance, but otherwise it can't be this simple/straightforward.
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Quad Dog said:

Since when is it illegal to lie on public airwaves, especially on a show presenting itself as a comedy show?


Exactly.
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fig96 said:

So many missing the forest for the trees here.

I don't have strong feelings about Kimmel one way or the other, and if ABC wanted to fire him that was their choice (though I thought his comments would have been much more inflammatory given the uproar). But the fact that the FCC chair is talking about wanting to sanction or take away licenses from media companies for things they say should be a massive red flag.

This isn't the first time that this admin has advocated for companies to fire specific employees for saying things they didn't like (again, massive red flag). Getting fired for an opinion that your employer didn't like is very different than getting fired for celebrating someone's death.

Did the "other side" do some of this as well? To an extent, and that was wrong too. But they didn't literally call for people to fired or tell reporters asking about free speech to their face that they might be next. We have media companies sending out memos to their employees telling them not to post negatively about a public figure who died. That's kind of insane.

You should find this alarming whatever side of the aisle you're on, because at some point your party isn't going to be the one in charge.


I literally don't understand cheering this on, for this reason alone. The tables WILL be turned at some point, and it's only going to get worse from here.
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Aust Ag said:

schmendeler said:



They can mock all they want and have been doing it for years, so spare me.

Like I said above, how was this a sustainable business model in this new age of content accessibility when you put yourself behind the 8 ball by angering half the country. On what should be a comedy-centric program.

What about "bringing people together"? Not as important as piling on?


Except Trump has been openly talking about going after his enemies in the media for months if not years. Now he's getting what he wants. And you're willfully blind about what's happening.
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He should have been ****canned for this as well.

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TCTTS said:

If this were true, shouldn't CNN, Fox News, et al have been taken off the air years ago? Both lie all the damn time. In fact, countless lies about crimes have been told on television for decades. Maybe there's some super random caveat in this particular instance, but otherwise it can't be this simple/straightforward.


I don't know, that's why I said I'd want to read the license.
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Cliff.Booth said:

He should have been ****canned for this as well.




"Humor is legal again!"

"No not those kind of jokes!"
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TCTTS said:


You're just mad that someone you don't like said something you don't like.

That's called being emotional.



Define irony for me without being asked.
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The punchline of that joke was to NOT set fire to peoples' vehicles for ideological motives. And the joke was that he DOES want you to. That's how ****ed up we've become.
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Cliff.Booth said:

I bet the Kimmel podcast is gonna draw in tens and tens of listeners.




Crowder is a crappy person too though, so maybe let's not use him as an example.
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schmendeler said:

Cliff.Booth said:

He should have been ****canned for this as well.




"Humor is legal again!"

"No not those kind of jokes!"

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Cliff.Booth said:

The punchline of that joke was to NOT set fire to peoples' vehicles for ideological motives. And the joke was that he DOES want you to. That's how ****ed up we've become.


A joke about torching cars is too far, says cliff booth, serious person.
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TCTTS said:

We both agree that what Kimmel said was ridiculous, a lie, etc, etc.

That's not the issue, though.

It's whether the United States government should be able to threaten a media company into submission over the on-air words of a United States citizen/comedian.

You may hate what Kimmel said, and what he said may even make him a bad person. But he should still have the right to say what he said whether you like it or not. That's... the entire point.

Again, Kimmel's speech isn't free of consequences from his employer. But his speech should absolutely be free of consequences from our government, and today that line was blurred, if not blatantly crossed.



This is a small government conservative take and y'all are ripping him for it? TCTTS simply cannot win.
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DannyDuberstein said:

Yes, it does take a special kind of maturity to think someone should be able to spew crazy **** about a cold blooded murder and not have their boss, who already was planning not to renew him and has to sell advertising in your time slot in the meantime, do something. You got that right


Don't try to explain that to someone surrounded by an echo chamber, knowing that there are no consequences to telling the world how evil those they disagree with are. TCTTS is just upset that his side and all their crap are finally facing some accountability for the first time in their lives, as minimal as it is by comparison to what they subjected others to. They prefer it when they're the safe ones and everyone they hate bows down to their goodness and moral superiority.

Not that it will change their behavior in any way. It'l reverse right back to how it was eventually, with the correct side being the only voices allowed to be heard.
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It wasn't a joke. He really wanted it to happen, clearly in the delivery of what he said. If Greg Gutfeld or someone made a joke about "don't burn down a _____, really guys, dont do it" you might not pretend it's going over your head.

Kimmel is an awful dude.
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Kaiser von Wilhelm said:

DannyDuberstein said:

Yes, it does take a special kind of maturity to think someone should be able to spew crazy **** about a cold blooded murder and not have their boss, who already was planning not to renew him and has to sell advertising in your time slot in the meantime, do something. You got that right


Don't try to explain that to someone surrounded by an echo chamber, knowing that there are no consequences to telling the world how evil those they disagree with are. TCTTS is just upset that his side and all their crap are finally facing some accountability for the first time in their lives, as minimal as it is by comparison to what they subjected others to. They prefer it when they're the safe ones and everyone they hate bows down to their goodness and moral superiority.

Not that it will change their behavior in any way. It'l reverse right back to how it was eventually, with the correct side being the only voices allowed to be heard.


The fact that you think I have a "side" - or that I'm on the side of the left at all - shows just how much you project onto me instead reading what I actually say.
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Cliff.Booth said:

It wasn't a joke. He really wanted it happen, clearly in the delivery of what he said. If Greg Gutfeld or someone made a joke about "don't burn down a _____, really guy, dont do it" you might not pretend it's going over your head.

Kimmel is an awful dude.


Dude, an anchor at Fox news just in the last week flat out said that homeless people should be executed and he gave a half ass apology and still has his same job. You have no idea what you're talking about.
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swimmerbabe11 said:

TCTTS said:

We both agree that what Kimmel said was ridiculous, a lie, etc, etc.

That's not the issue, though.

It's whether the United States government should be able to threaten a media company into submission over the on-air words of a United States citizen/comedian.

You may hate what Kimmel said, and what he said may even make him a bad person. But he should still have the right to say what he said whether you like it or not. That's... the entire point.

Again, Kimmel's speech isn't free of consequences from his employer. But his speech should absolutely be free of consequences from our government, and today that line was blurred, if not blatantly crossed.



This is a small government conservative take and y'all are ripping him for it? TCTTS simply cannot win.


The hypocrisy of TexAgs knows only rage, not logic.
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DannyDuberstein said:

Cliff.Booth said:

Seems like this is likely the case. It's like when the girlfriend you've already kinda realized is not wife material does something over the top crazy that you can feel good breaking up with her for. They got to seem decent and can a ****ty show in one fell swoop.




100%. And again, he knew what he was doing here. Gets his vacation and to play martyr to help launch next gig


Exactly. It was just set up for people like TCTTS to scream "but muh first first amendment rights!!!1" As if that was ever something they cared one bit about before.

Quite clever approach by those paying the bills actually, literally letting them off the hook guilt free. Especially since the FCC was dumb enough to involve themselves, as benign an involvement it obviously as. Shouldve just let it play out. It would've gone the exact same way regardless, but this just gives all the leftists an opportunity to get back into the victim game and scream at their opposition as the real enemies. Just as it's been for how long? A decade at least? Professional victimhood.
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TCTTS said:

Kaiser von Wilhelm said:

DannyDuberstein said:

Yes, it does take a special kind of maturity to think someone should be able to spew crazy **** about a cold blooded murder and not have their boss, who already was planning not to renew him and has to sell advertising in your time slot in the meantime, do something. You got that right


Don't try to explain that to someone surrounded by an echo chamber, knowing that there are no consequences to telling the world how evil those they disagree with are. TCTTS is just upset that his side and all their crap are finally facing some accountability for the first time in their lives, as minimal as it is by comparison to what they subjected others to. They prefer it when they're the safe ones and everyone they hate bows down to their goodness and moral superiority.

Not that it will change their behavior in any way. It'l reverse right back to how it was eventually, with the correct side being the only voices allowed to be heard.


The fact that you think I have a "side" - or that I'm on the side of the left at all - shows just how much you project onto me instead reading what I actually say.


Umm...anyone who has read anything you've posted on this board can clearly tell what you believe. At least you don't pretend to not be that way, even if hiding behind a keyboard.

I do applaud your indifference to letting people know your opinion though. You have no ****s to give, which I actually kind of respect.
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I didn't see that but if that's true the dude should be fired. I am pro-stop inciting violence and wishing harm upon people you disagree with, stop creating content and making "comedy" that demonizes half of the country. Are we not seeing where it leads?
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Milwaukees Best Light said:

Just watched the clip and didn't see anything worth anyone getting fired. I also didn't see anything funny, and that is worth firing him over.


Which is why it's so obvious that the government had absolutely nothing to do with it. It was a business decision, pure and simple. Any idiot can see that. Even those who suddenly have a stance of moral high ground since it isn't against those they are used to it being aimed at.
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whether or not TCTTS or any liberal person states that its wrong or their track record regarding the first amendment doesnt actually have any bearing on whether or not this is a bullsh move.

it was wrong during covid and its wrong when its a guy I dont like.
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Well, bullsh moves have apparently been made all over the country this past week by companies whose employees embarrassed them by publicly pushing hateful nonsense. Or…. maybe don't be an idiot who costs your company money and reputation and headache and you won't get fired/suspended
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and?
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schmendeler said:




Wait, what part of what happened was related to him supposedly mocking the "leader." He was intentionally mocking an entire half of the country, as well as basically gloating about the murder of someone he clearly was ok with dying.

What a stupid idiotic take.
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Of the two of us, I'm the one arguing for conservative values here. For smaller government. For free speech. Also, no where have I defended Kimmel once in this thread. In fact, I have been only critical of him. But sure, I'm a "lib" I guess, because, I don't know, I don't foam at the mouth when there's a two-second, same-sex kiss in the background of a Disney movie or whatever, and I don't rage when a movie role is race-swapped. If that somehow makes me your enemy, though, and worthy of mocking, it says far more about you than it does me. Otherwise, you have no ****ing clue what I "believe."
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swimmerbabe11 said:

and?


You need this further clarified lol?
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Not sure why Kimmel ever had a show. It sucked from day one.
 
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