Need a Homan Update

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Terrorists, RGV, human smuggling. "What could go wrong, here?"-Democrats
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Sure wish I could set them up on my west fence on Friday or Saturday night when the horde comes thru.
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It always amazes me how they let that crap go on as long as they do before making an arrest.
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MooreTrucker said:

It always amazes me how they let that crap go on as long as they do before making an arrest.

They don't want to do the paper work I imagine.
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I know that men aren't supposed to hit women, but that guy had to have been tempted to break that rule.
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MooreTrucker said:

It always amazes me how they let that crap go on as long as they do before making an arrest.

Wow, she laid her hands on him so many times and the constant haranguing, no way I could have put up with that.

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MooreTrucker said:

It always amazes me how they let that crap go on as long as they do before making an arrest.


This looks more like one of those first amendment auditors than anything. While those dudes are annoying as all hell, I would've knocked her ass out the moment she touched me.
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Tony Franklins Other Shoe said:

MooreTrucker said:

It always amazes me how they let that crap go on as long as they do before making an arrest.

Wow, she laid her hands on him so many times and the constant haranguing, no way I could have put up with that.

I wonder if they allow it so that they can record it and count every touch as a separate "assault". Maybe they can charge her with seven counts instead of one. That's the only thing that makes any sense. I'd have had that witch in cuffs the first time she laid a finger on me.
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Good. Better vetting.

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Wall coming in HOT.
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I would love, love to see that communist mayor of Boston charged. She of infamous 'no whites allowed' party-going.
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will25u said:



Since immigration control is a constitutional federal power, how does Oregon think it can pass laws contradictory to this? Didn't Texas face roadblocks when it tried to control the border when the leftist Biden admin wouldn't? The double standard leftists reserve for themselves is glaring.
The best way to keep evil men from wielding great power is to not create great power in the first place.
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As always, it's (D)ifferent
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American Hardwood said:

will25u said:



Since immigration control is a constitutional federal power, how does Oregon think it can pass laws contradictory to this? Didn't Texas face roadblocks when it tried to control the border when the leftist Biden admin wouldn't? The double standard leftists reserve for themselves is glaring.

Yes I clearly recall Biden's fed removing razor wire that had been placed to prevent illegals from crossing. They are the ultimate hypocrites.
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Prosperdick said:

American Hardwood said:

will25u said:



Since immigration control is a constitutional federal power, how does Oregon think it can pass laws contradictory to this? Didn't Texas face roadblocks when it tried to control the border when the leftist Biden admin wouldn't? The double standard leftists reserve for themselves is glaring.

Yes I clearly recall Biden's fed removing razor wire that had been placed to prevent illegals from crossing. They are the ultimate hypocrites.

While Texas just came in right behind them and laid more. That was so beautiful.

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American Hardwood said:

will25u said:



Since immigration control is a constitutional federal power, how does Oregon think it can pass laws contradictory to this? Didn't Texas face roadblocks when it tried to control the border when the leftist Biden admin wouldn't? The double standard leftists reserve for themselves is glaring.

Only Republicans have to follow the rule of law...duh.
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"We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution."

- Abraham Lincoln
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will25u said:

Good. Better vetting.



Would hope they had been monitoring and downloading social media for quite some time before announcing this policy.
Maybe those that have been voicing their hate will now consider self-deporting.
Among the latter, under pretence of governing they have divided their nations into two classes, wolves and sheep.”
Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Edward Carrington, January 16, 1787
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Would hope they had been monitoring and downloading social media for quite some time before announcing this policy.
Maybe those that have been voicing their hate will now consider self-deporting.

We know the FBI was surveilling a ton of people's social media before and after Jan 6th.
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richardag said:

will25u said:

Good. Better vetting.



Would hope they had been monitoring and downloading social media for quite some time before announcing this policy.
Maybe those that have been voicing their hate will now consider self-deporting.



This has been happening for years. The surveillance. If threatening violence good. If objection don't do anything until violence is mentioned
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will25u said:

Good. Better vetting.



This makes me a bit uncomfortable. It's a fine line to cross from monitoring immigrants to monitoring citizens. I don't want to slip into a UK style surveillance state hellscape.

You know the left will argue that the right had no problem with this now (and failing to make the distinction between non-citizens and citizens) so their surveillance should be okay too. Too many dumb Americans will fall for this. Look how bad it is on this board alone with the false equivalent cries of "but your side does it too!!!!"
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will25u
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I believe this is for vetting of immigrants before we approve them to come here. Could be wrong though.

You can't make current decisions in fear of what Democrats might do in the future. You have to do what is right NOW.
"We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution."

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American Hardwood said:

will25u said:

Good. Better vetting.



This makes me a bit uncomfortable. It's a fine line to cross from monitoring immigrants to monitoring citizens. I don't want to slip into a UK style surveillance state hellscape.

You know the left will argue that the right had no problem with this now (and failing to make the distinction between non-citizens and citizens) so their surveillance should be okay too. Too many dumb Americans will fall for this. Look how bad it is on this board alone with the false equivalent cries of "but your side does it too!!!!"


I hear you. But the difference is that THEY ARE NOT CITIZENS and are not afforded the same rights as a guest (or illegal parasite) of this country. Surveillance of foreigners should be standard practice in the interest of national security. Very different than what is occurring in the UK to its own citizens.
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will25u said:

I believe this is for vetting of immigrants before we approve them to come here. Could be wrong though.

You can't make current decisions in fear of what Democrats might do in the future. You have to do what is right NOW.

I very respectfully disagree with you, if you AREN'T contemplating how every single law or policy you enact can be twisted and turned against you, you are virtually guaranteeing to get bitten in the ass at some point. The entire philosophy of the founders was predicated on building a system to prevent future unforeseen harm.

That isn't to say you should be paralyzed by fear, but you damn sure should craft your policy with massive safeguards against misuse. As I pointed out, you know damn well the dems will step over that fine line of non-citizen to citizen in both their criticisms while they are out of power and in practice when they are in power. And the average gullible American will lack the presence to see the difference.
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The US intelligence agencies are already looking at this stuff, its hidden in the FISA stuff. Now they can throw more resources towards it. As mentioned, its a double edged sword if it is used more than for people entering.
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See my rebuttal above. The citizen vs. non-citizen will be lost in the cloud of narratives. I'm all for digging into foreign applicants before they get here. But a domestic surveillance program even for papered immigrants gets into some dangerous territory IMO.
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will25u said:



These MF'ers need to be thrown off a thirty-foot bridge with twenty-foot ropes wrapped around their necks.
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Biz Ag said:

will25u said:



These MF'ers need to be thrown off a thirty-foot bridge with twenty-foot ropes wrapped around their necks.


We can call the first 19 feet of the drop "Due Process".
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American Hardwood said:

will25u said:

Good. Better vetting.



This makes me a bit uncomfortable. It's a fine line to cross from monitoring immigrants to monitoring citizens. I don't want to slip into a UK style surveillance state hellscape.

You know the left will argue that the right had no problem with this now (and failing to make the distinction between non-citizens and citizens) so their surveillance should be okay too. Too many dumb Americans will fall for this. Look how bad it is on this board alone with the false equivalent cries of "but your side does it too!!!!"

They specifically state "social media posts". IANAL
I would guess that there is nothing illegal nor anything that runs afoul of The Constitution in what they are doing.
They are using public information about foreign nationals to determine whether they may become citizens or if extreme anti American or terroristic beliefs disqualify them and they should be deported.
As citizens we are not under this scrutiny and no legal action would be indicated.
If the Democratic Party leadership tries to weaponize social media posts the Federal courts and Supreme Court would slap that BS down.
Among the latter, under pretence of governing they have divided their nations into two classes, wolves and sheep.”
Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Edward Carrington, January 16, 1787
 
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