Trump Shutting Down USAID

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In reply to BQ_90 • 3:50p, 2/27/25
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I am unclear what grants are still flowing. I've been curious about that as well.


I hope they're ones that go to food for starving people. Not just for the people in need but for the farmers here that are relying on the contracts through USAID for their livelihoods as well.
As we've seen, often the food money goes to the local dictator who then pockets it. Dems get to proudly proclaim they're feeding the poor while communist dictators get richer.


Your thoughts on the farmers who are paid by USAID for the food that goes to those countries? They're being affected (losing out) as well.
Can you provide a link to how much food USAID actually provided?

The only one I saw was clintons daughter who provided about 11,000 meals at a cost of $1800 each.

Also isn't the UN supposed to be doing that along with probably hundreds of other non-profits?


I'm thinking of our farmers who make their living by providing the food.
Again do you have a link to how much food our farmers were providing due to USAID contracts?


No, but if there's no link, yet farmers on social media are complaining, I take it we should just ignore them.

The reality it, the food came from our farmers, so when things get cut, the farmers are going to lose out, period.

Regardless of the amount, are you fine with them just being SOL?
I am for accountability and what's best for America. That said, trust but verify, can you even post the social media links of the farmers complaining? We haven't seen a single case in which usaid was ever providing any food with the exception of clintons $1800 happy meals.


Like I said, the food we send comes from American farmers. It's not hard to connect that dot of them losing out from cuts to USAID.
Then connect the dots. If its that easy. My guess is you have no clue how a farmer sells his crops.


From what they said what they produce was for USAID by contract. Then again, maybe farmers can be liars and even part of the grift that's in USAID.
https://www.npr.org/2025/02/19/1232435535/how-usaid-cuts-hurt-american-farmers

i found this on NPR. Its a bunch of what ifs or maybes. Their view is this aid somehow buys the US peace and stability around the world. Which is questionable at best.

they said this revenue is less than 1% of total farm sales.

Oh and they do talk about USAID food that was misused and sold or sent to terrorist.

In the story they also talk that farmers really don't sell directly to USAID, they sell at local grain elevator then USAID buys from companies like cargill. And who knows how much is syphoned off in admin fees.

also said congress is already working to replace this food aid under other agency.

I'm still not sure how this is some disaster to the avg farmer out there


That makes sense. Thanks for the link.
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I am unclear what grants are still flowing. I've been curious about that as well.


I hope they're ones that go to food for starving people. Not just for the people in need but for the farmers here that are relying on the contracts through USAID for their livelihoods as well.
As we've seen, often the food money goes to the local dictator who then pockets it. Dems get to proudly proclaim they're feeding the poor while communist dictators get richer.


Your thoughts on the farmers who are paid by USAID for the food that goes to those countries? They're being affected (losing out) as well.
Can you provide a link to how much food USAID actually provided?

The only one I saw was clintons daughter who provided about 11,000 meals at a cost of $1800 each.

Also isn't the UN supposed to be doing that along with probably hundreds of other non-profits?


I'm thinking of our farmers who make their living by providing the food.
Again do you have a link to how much food our farmers were providing due to USAID contracts?


No, but if there's no link, yet farmers on social media are complaining, I take it we should just ignore them.

The reality it, the food came from our farmers, so when things get cut, the farmers are going to lose out, period.

Regardless of the amount, are you fine with them just being SOL?
I am for accountability and what's best for America. That said, trust but verify, can you even post the social media links of the farmers complaining? We haven't seen a single case in which usaid was ever providing any food with the exception of clintons $1800 happy meals.


Like I said, the food we send comes from American farmers. It's not hard to connect that dot of them losing out from cuts to USAID.
Then connect the dots. If its that easy. My guess is you have no clue how a farmer sells his crops.


From what they said what they produce was for USAID by contract. Then again, maybe farmers can be liars and even part of the grift that's in USAID.


Yes. Farmers can be liars. I farm and these amount to government price supports and they don't sustain a market. The government does the same with ethanol and I think those should be eliminated also.

I used to do some side consulting for an old farmer in his 80's who was a very conservative guy and we frequently talked about politics. When it was Trump vs. Clinton he asked me who I was voting for, which kind of surprised me because I thought it was obvious. I said Trump and asked him the same. He said, "I always vote for my self interest, democrats." He said, "Democrats always funnel the most money to farmers." I quit working for him at the end of the season.

There are certainly a lot of farmers that will happily take tax payer money.
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4:02p, 2/27/25
John Kirakou talks about USAID and the Afghan poppy production.



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9:43p, 2/27/25
USAID workers seem to think they were above it all.

They were quick to propagandize the entire planet and cause the running up of an $8 trillion dolllar tab.

Now the bill come due and they shocked.

People don't understand that we ALL paid for Covid on lay-away,

They strung us along, and floated us along for 5-years to take the sting out of it.

Now the bill comes due.

These folks were on easy street all through covid.

They thought they had put a streak of blood outside their door and were safe, but the reaper finally got to 'em and they shell-shocked.
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9:43p, 2/27/25
One more.

Very interesting

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4:52a, 2/28/25


Kind of incredible to hear it laid out in congressional testimony like this. WTF couldn't this be publicly discussed until Trump became president? 90% of USAID to Gaza went to Hamas.
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TB: Could you elaborate a little on the mechanisms in place to stop foreign aid from going to terrorist groups and why are they not working if we have any in place? (Goes on to explain a graphic display of terrorist weapons and explosives.)

GR: Let's use Gaza as our case study. $2.1 billion in American taxpayers' money to Gaza since October 7th when Hamas invaded southern Israel. USAID money was going in terms of an emergency use authorization to try to go to parties that USAID formerly had a relationship with in the Gaza Strip. That had to have been vetted by (Office of Foreign Assets Control) OFAC, they should have been vetted against the special designated terror list from the State Department and from other Treasury organizations. Waivers were granted because they said that there was an emergency use to have that money come into Gaza, thereby jettisoning the usual, typical screening procedures. As a result, 90 percent of aid that was going from the United States by way of its agents in Gaza ended up in Hamas-controlled areas.
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This money, I should remind you, is American taxpayer money. The federal government, with the full force and power of government behind it, takes that money from us every year and borrows more on top of that - and this is the use to which a lot of that money is being put. To call that a misuse of taxpayers' money is akin to describing Napoleon's invasion of Russia as a "bad idea." In funding these organizations, no matter how indirectly, no matter how many cutouts this "aid" goes through, USAID is breaking faith with the American taxpayers - not that we have ever had much faith in the foreign aid apparatus in the first place.
Earlier this week, President Trump signed another executive order giving the DOGE some more teeth:

Reducing spending is enough reason for this effort. We haven't yet seen a plan for reducing the federal debt, but when you're in a ($36 trillion deep) hole, the first thing to do is to stop digging. The DOGE seems to be making a good start at that - and now, we learn, it's exposing some illigitimate support for some very unsavory groups, as well. That, also, is worth doing.
And, USAID funds a lobbyist to get funds to lobby for funds to get us killed and help China.
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5:25a, 2/28/25
This one isn't USAID but rather the department of labor sending (still) $12 million to Brazilian labor unions to capacity build after they got Lula 'elected.'

I think it belongs here as it is related to the nefarious ops obviously which USAID is known for.

USAID funding narco terrorists goes back to their founding.

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5:39a, 2/28/25
$24 million for 'gym equipment' in Cairo?

War graft:

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In reply to nortex97 • 7:00a, 2/28/25
It couldn't be discussed because:

a. Democrats believe in censorship
b. Democrats don't want people to know the truth
c. Democrats are marxists, miscreants, and malcontents
d. Democrats are actively working to undermine America all over the world

This is utter insanity. And we knew it was happening, we just didn't have verifiable proof that it was happening. And even still, there are posters on this board who claim to not believe USAID was anything other than money being spent in a way we don't agree with.

No, you dense mother****ers, it's money being spent to destroy America and her interests. Just like the invasion of our southern border. There is no reasonable explanation for either.
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In reply to Ellis Wyatt • 4:54a, 3/1/25
I mean, yeah. The crux of the USAID though was that it was just a work-around for the communists/Soros types to get tax dollars.

Biggest scam ever? Musk talks about tens of thousands of 'large NGO's.'
$141K from September for a virtual conference for 'the changing role of women in Ukraine.' (State Department grant).

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NGOs play the same role for USAID and the State Dept that PMCs (private military contractors) play for the Pentagon. It's just for political warfare rather than kinetic warfare. In each case, what they do is too dirty to have official US gov't fingerprints on the dirty deed.
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9:51a, 3/1/25
95-98% Democrats. Including Catholic Charities (name dropped).
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In reply to nortex97 • 2:52p, 3/1/25
Every time I see one of these I get so mad about what they've been spending our money on. But then I think about how that $24 million for 'gym equipment' in Cairo is probably just a set of dumbbells and the rest of the money is sitting in some politicians' bank accounts. And then I really get mad.
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In reply to will25u • 9:37a, 3/2/25
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Good. Where there's government money like that, you know corruption is soon to follow.
Trump will fix it.
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10:24a, 3/2/25
I want all that money clawed back!
Let me rephrase... I want all my money clawed back!
Freeze all accounts, from the "NGOs"and the grifters who got paid.
Seize their accounts.
Seize their houses.
They took my money and I want it back.
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In reply to will25u • 10:29a, 3/2/25
Glad they are being stopped.

How are they preventing new contracts from being awarded w/o sufficient review and approval?
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In reply to Scruffy • 1:04p, 3/2/25
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I want all that money clawed back!
Let me rephrase... I want all my money clawed back!
Freeze all accounts, from the "NGOs"and the grifters who got paid.
Seize their accounts.
Seize their houses.
They took my money and I want it back.
NGO's are a loophole that allows the government to do things they can't legally do themselves. It's time to close that loophole.
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2:09p, 3/2/25
Fix the glitch.
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In reply to Ellis Wyatt • 11:59p, 3/2/25
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I can't even accept that we were sending food through USAID. I can accept that our government has been lying to us. I can accept that they were money laundering.
I caught a little of the DOGE subcommittee hearing and missed the Dems name (Texas - Austin/San Marcos area). Sorry, no link or names as I missed it.

He spent his entire 5 minutes begging the mean Republicans to direct Musk and DOGE to free up the money for that program so delivery could be made from some huge warehouses packed full of food (already on the premises). This was in Ethiopia and the Sudan if I'm not mistaken, and the kids and mothers would literally start dying tomorrow from starvation if action wasn't taken immediately.

MTG responded and read from a script that the WH had directed those funds be released to feed the hungry FWIW(not specifically of that area, just in general which I though had been announced at different points. I guess the Dem got his politics in either way). After all the years of drama, theft, corruption and flat out LIES, it's kinda tough to believe anything the Dems say.

If anyone starves or otherwise pays a price for any of these cuts, it's 100% on the Dems for abusing the system FOREVER.
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5:16a, 3/3/25

This is not hyperbole, but the truth.
What is this? Social security trust fund withdrawals for folks in Ukraine?


SSI is low income, so maybe Ukrainians paroled into the US by Biden (the ones protesting, for instance, Trump trying to end the war?)

This needs to stop.
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In reply to captkirk • 2:46p, 3/3/25
Because it would be An Inconvenient Truth...
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3:01p, 3/3/25
She's circling back to it.
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3:05p, 3/3/25
I would REALLY like to see the salaries listed for all of these NGOs, leadership AND staffers. The right 'staffer' could be making way more than the CEOs IMO if they bring more to the table. Of special interest any and EVERY individual who is related to politicians or politically-appointed officials would be key.

That single bit of information would connect a lot of dots for those of us footing the bill.

I'm guessing those books are not open unless subpoenas are involved??? Typically I believe the law states if taxpayer funds are involved those figures are available to the folks. ?
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In reply to Jack Squat 83 • 3:25p, 3/3/25
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I would REALLY like to see the salaries listed for all of these NGOs, leadership AND staffers. The right 'staffer' could be making way more than the CEOs IMO if they bring more to the table. Of special interest any and EVERY individual who is related to politicians or politically-appointed officials would be key.
Some of the info has been put out there for some of the orgs.
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I would REALLY like to see the salaries listed for all of these NGOs, leadership AND staffers. The right 'staffer' could be making way more than the CEOs IMO if they bring more to the table. Of special interest any and EVERY individual who is related to politicians or politically-appointed officials would be key.

That single bit of information would connect a lot of dots for those of us footing the bill.

I'm guessing those books are not open unless subpoenas are involved??? Typically I believe the law states if taxpayer funds are involved those figures are available to the folks. ?


Data Republican is working on this along with a connecting map between all the NGO players and politicians.

Hopefully she lives long enough to complete. I think she will as I believe God is guiding her path.
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5:00a, 3/4/25
Here is an RT article (yeah yeah, evil Russian government etc) that is pretty excellent as to the content/analyses of USAID funds to meddle in India/Bangladesh.
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Trump, as is his wont, has latched on to this in his characteristic discursive style and expressed bemusement that such an allocation was made. He has commented several times on this in public and in the process has created confusion by talking of $21 million the DOGE figure initially and later mentioning $18 million, suggesting that kickbacks may be involved, mixing up the potential beneficiaries, saying that the purpose was to get "someone else elected," and asking the basic question why India would need these funds at all.

It could be speculated that the funds might have been destined for opposition elements to bolster their chances in specific constituencies by promoting a higher voter turnout opposed to the ruling Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP). No proof of this is available as the money has not been disbursed.

The Indian opposition and its sympathizers in the media have tried to obfuscate the issue by claiming that the purported funds not $21 million but $29 million were intended for Bangladesh to "strengthen its political landscape," and that a perusal of available records would support this. The problem in taking this line is that DOGE is speaking of funds not disbursed to India whereas the funds to Bangladesh have been.

Be that as it may, the reference to $29 million to be spent on strengthening the political landscape in Bangladesh a code word for political interference in the country, which saw a regime change last year strengthens strong suspicions in India that the US had a hand in the ouster of Sheikh Hasina's from power in Bangladesh, which struck a blow to New Delhi's strategic interests in that country.

The obvious political nature of this $21 million allocation has created controversy in India, with the ruling party pointing the finger at opposition elements as the intended beneficiaries, and opposition groups seeking a proper investigation of the flow of such funds into India by the government.
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It is not a coincidence that these attacks on Modi and the BJP government in western circles were closely aligned with the political attacks by India's opposition. Some prominent Indian opposition leaders had actually sought US interference in India's internal affairs to assist in saving its democracy. The incessant attack by an opposition leader on the links between a top industry figure in India with the Indian prime minister was echoed by George Soros at Davos as far back as January 2020.

The uncovering of USAID's activities worldwide by the Trump administration and the decision to stop its operations have been explosive in nature. It has demolished a key instrument in the hands of the US establishment to further its influence abroad in overt and covert ways. Many have long suspected that the CIA uses USAID for furthering its agenda. Whether true or not, some of the revelations of DOGE about USAID's activities substantiate this suspicion. The dynamics behind this is internal US politics but the fall-out is international.

Indian External Affairs Minister S. Jaishankar has reacted in a relative low key to the exposure of USAID activities in India, stating that USAID was allowed into India "in good faith," and now suggestions are coming from America itself that it conducted some activities "in bad faith," which is worrisome. The government is looking into this and the facts will come out, Jaishankar asserted.
Let countries elect their own government(s) and leave their media alone.
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5:36a, 3/5/25

I guess I should stop bumping this after today, but it is Trump's greatest accomplishment thus far in his second term, imho.
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5:42a, 3/5/25
SIAP


Musk was on the Rogan podcast recently, and talks a lot about the USAID stuff. They really haven't even done any "deep dive" analysis yet. They are taking pretty much everyone on their word as to what they are doing with the money.


So as bad as the waste looks now, it's going to be much worse as this goes along
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In reply to nortex97 • 6:18a, 3/5/25
Don't stop posting about it. This stuff needs all the eyes on it that it can get. Thanks for posting it.
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In reply to Ellis Wyatt • 7:27a, 3/5/25
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Don't stop posting about it. This stuff needs all the eyes on it that it can get. Thanks for posting it.
Agreed. I don't post alot on it, but I read every message.
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In reply to Ellis Wyatt • 7:29a, 3/5/25
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Don't stop posting about it. This stuff needs all the eyes on it that it can get. Thanks for posting it.
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In reply to 1836er • 7:48a, 3/5/25
Cool, thx all.

The corruption spread past USAID of course but I think a single thread including the various NGO's is better than the separate 'corruption' one. They all intersect anyway with DAF's, sub-grants etc in the laundering operations as per this:


Gender wars (GLBTQ stuff), 'democracy' (euphemism for subjugating populists/conservatives), and 'climate change' (pure money laundering) seem to have been the three key drivers of USAID-State Dept-CIA operations over the past 10 years.

Hopefully the folks like datarepublican can shine a permanent spotlight on the interconnectedness of this universe of fraud, wars, abuse and lies:
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8:25a, 3/5/25
WTF, over?

This is I think the matter of past performance now being billed/paid for. Roberts/ACB I think went with the communists…
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