Trump Shutting Down USAID

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In reply to BusterAg • 4:58p, 3/14/25
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FireAg said:
The rub becomes codifying it though…

We can focus on those things all we want, but it's a short term focus, fueled by EOs, until enough folks in Congress are motivated to codify things permanently…
I am pretty sure that even Congress is not stupid enough to further fund USAID by statute at this point.
No one ever went broke betting against the intelligence and integrity of the average US Congressman or Senator.
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6:44p, 3/14/25
Trump will fix it.
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In reply to Touchless • 7:21p, 3/14/25
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Jack Squat 83 said:
titan said:
will25u said:
So sad what our government has become.

They really do owe every adult American citizen a multi thousand check like 5K to make up for this.


The PR of getting "free" money compliments of DOGE could be a game changer for those barely paying attention. This movement to save America will need a majority of voters for years, obviously, so get more on board any chance you get.

If budgets are simultaneously cut, in my simple mind there should be no inflation worries of the disbursement/return of our money. Do it orange man.
I don't know the math, but I'm guessing that's 10s of billions of dollars. That should go towards the debt. The faster we can right the ship, the better it is for everyone. I'd rather see taxes go down and some changes that are long lasting and sustainable.

Make the government work for the people again. Get rid of the rot and waste. Implement term limits. Implement restrictions on what investments federal employees can make. Just overall market performance or something. There should never be something like a Pelosi stock tracker. Elected officials should not see their wealth increase exponentially while in office.



I hear what you're saying and agree, but we don't have the luxury of fixing everything without some true Dem playbook schemes that immediately impact folks in a positive way. Give all the glory to DOGE. If folks hop on board the R's will be more apt to have the b_lls to codify everything.

Remember, Dems are actually smart, effective and organized politically(playing to the lowest denominator like a SOB), and the Reps actually have solutions and fix stuff but absolutely suck at messaging. We need to veer off course slightly here, for the long-term future.

This "freebie" is 100% targeted(politically) to the average American who sporadically votes and damn sure doesn't even care about the deficit which I'd imagine is just a word they've heard, too complicated and long term stuff to them. Numbers and math are a turn off to them. (My intelligent wife is a prime example of that). Many folks are only thinking about tomorrow or maybe next week, not years out or their grandkids future.

We need their votes!!! If you don't believe how out of touch many are with current events, realize there are actual people who vote for AOCs, Kamalas etc. There you go.

A "rebate" should be highly considered.
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1:39a, 3/16/25


Benz claims taxpayer money being used to support satan.

Great job everybody.

Keep up the good work.
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In reply to Stat Monitor Repairman • 5:40a, 3/16/25
Yes, indeed.

More gross, and obvious money laundering;



And I think I put this elsewhere yesterday, but fyi VOA is…shutting down, another arm of propaganda from State/CIA/USAID.
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In reply to Stat Monitor Repairman • 5:56a, 3/16/25
And of course an intent to help just another 'left of center' foreign government obtain complete control over the judiciary there.

Does this all sound familiar, Romanians/Georgians/Poles/Ukrainians?

F USAID forever.
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7:09a, 3/16/25
As a reminder, we were also funding the BBC, now also 'surprisingly' facing domestic British cuts as well. RUSI (this author brags about his affiliation, "Royal United Services Institute", largely led by OCCRP, note the senior VP is David Petraeus) is another propaganda outfit we funded, as well.

More on OCCRP (Mike's got a lot about it up over the past few months alone):

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8:46a, 3/16/25
Face it, citizens. Our own government hates us and they hate free market capitalism. We've known this, but they also clearly hate the thing they pretend to really care about through their Pravda programming: "democracy". Or at least, they hate any democracy they can't easily control with influence, sponsorships, and interference of foreign news, foreign protests, foreign elections, and foreign coups, and now we know they use their money and talents on their own people.
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9:06a, 3/16/25
Trying to explain to the fam the scale of this waste and fraud of our money when the media has (purposefully) minimized how much money we are talking about - they throw around terms of billion and trillion like it's nickels and dimes. This is A LOT of waste and fraud! Think about that as we are still expected to pay our "fair share" before April 15.

From Chat AI -
Sure! Here are some analogies to help illustrate the difference between a billion dollars and a trillion dollars:

1. **Time**:
- A billion seconds is about 31.7 years. If you started counting to a billion at birth, you would reach that number now if you were born in 1993.
- A trillion seconds is about 31,688.1 years. That's long enough to cover the span of human history from the Stone Age to today!

2. **Distance**:
- If a billion dollars were laid out in $100 bills, it would stretch approximately 358 miles. That's roughly the distance from New York City to Philadelphia.
- Conversely, a trillion dollars in $100 bills would stretch about 68,356 miles, which is more than two and a half times around the Earth at the equator!

3. **Stacking Bills**:
- A stack of a billion dollars in $100 bills would be about 1,000 feet tall, roughly the height of a third of the Empire State Building.
- A trillion dollars would create a stack over 67,000 feet tall, which is more than 12 times the height of Mount Everest!

4. **Spending**:
- If you spent a million dollars a day, it would take you about 2.74 years to spend a billion dollars.
- However, spending a million dollars a day would take you nearly 2,740 years to spend a trillion dollars!

5. **Population Comparison**:
- Imagine a city with a population of 1 billion people; that's larger than the current populations of India or China.
- A trillion people would be equivalent to having a populated planet where every person on Earth (approximately 8 billion) has a whole other Earth of people!

These analogies help convey just how staggering the difference is between a billion and a trillion, showcasing the monumental scale of a trillion, which is a thousand times larger than a billion!
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In reply to nortex97 • 10:47a, 3/16/25


Of all the seemingly limitless creatures that occupy the swamp, john kerry's smug vile ass is the one I want to see perp walked and thrown in prison/executed more than any other. If I had to choose...
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In reply to agent-maroon • 6:07a, 3/17/25
Agree with you there. Here's another sketchy outfit:

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7:06a, 3/19/25
Sounds like datarepublican could use some prayers.

I think someone tossed a Molotov cocktail into her husband's business (a distillery) after the Salt Lake Tribune published data about it/her/its location. Democrats are horrible people. They apparently have a site listing every Tesla owner's address, on a map, with a Molotov cocktail cursor/mouse tracker.


Sigh…


I'm probably already at the tweet/post limit but from Charlie Kirk:
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Obama-appointed district court judge Theodore Chuang has ordered the restoration of USAID, claiming its shutdown "violated the United States Constitution."

In case it wasn't explicit enough that the only two clauses of the left's constitution were "thou shalt have open borders" and "All American money will be sent abroad."
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5:56p, 3/19/25
We got one

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In reply to aggiedata • 5:58p, 3/19/25
1 down 10,000 to go
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In reply to ttha_aggie_09 • 5:59p, 3/19/25
It's a start.
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In reply to aggiedata • 6:01p, 3/19/25
That's the case in Minnesota, correct?
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In reply to aggiedata • 6:02p, 3/19/25
aggiedata said:
We got one


I take it she was not married to a Democrat Judge. See that was her mistake.
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In reply to aggiedata • 7:16a, 3/20/25
aggiedata said:
We got one

I wonder who she squealed on, if any. That's the only way to get to the top and bring it all down.
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7:32a, 3/20/25
FMCS on K-street (the main lobby hub in DC).



More at the thread. "Federal Mediation and Conciliation Service." 1 of 7 pissant quasi-private corporations funded by us, Trump ended this week. Daily Wire piece.
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9:22a, 3/20/25
How many victims and poor people will die now because evil fascist dictator Elon Musk shut down FMCS?!?!? How many Teslas are going to have to burn because FMCS is getting attacked?
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In reply to nortex97 • 9:28a, 3/20/25
let's not leave out the multiple times Obama and Biden

literally sent their aides to Israel to help the campaign of the leftist candidates!
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9:31a, 3/20/25
will any of the fraudulent criminals at FMCS be charged with crimes?
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In reply to LMCane • 9:44a, 3/20/25

Zero chance before 2025. Now for the first time since the 20th century, there is a dim possibility there might be some punishment of govt misconduct.
FrioAg 00:
Leftist Democrats "have completely overplayed the Racism accusation. Honestly my first reaction when I hear it today is to assume bad intentions by the accuser, not the accused."
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In reply to nortex97 • 11:24a, 3/20/25
nortex97 said:
FMCS on K-street (the main lobby hub in DC).
…..,,,,
More at the thread. "Federal Mediation and Conciliation Service." 1 of 7 pissant quasi-private corporations funded by us, Trump ended this week. Daily Wire piece.
Paging Pam Bondi.
All personal electronic communications and financial records(including their family members)of all these criminals needs to be seized and thoroughly investigated. I suspect many politicians would be involved.
Among the latter, under pretence of governing they have divided their nations into two classes, wolves and sheep.”
Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Edward Carrington, January 16, 1787
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In reply to LMCane • 1:52p, 3/20/25
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will any of the fraudulent criminals at FMCS be charged with crimes?


Pam is gonna need a bigger boat…..MUCH bigger.
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4:35p, 3/20/25
US Institute for Peace facility finally liberated from barricaded staffers who do not recognize the authority of the police/chief executive etc and removed locks/entrance devices to ensure no one could efficiently evict them. No, really, that happened today.
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DOGE staffers returned Monday and found organized resistance to entry.
Quote:
Contrary to earlier reporting by The Washington Post and The New York Times, which claimed the institute merely locked its doors, photographic evidence exclusively obtained by the DCNF shows locks had been physically removed from the exterior doors, effectively destroying entry mechanisms. The official said USIP staff removed the locks.

Moreover, staff contacted Washington's Metropolitan Police Department (MPD) in an attempt to prevent DOGE personnel from entering, citing barricaded doors and security concerns. MPD officers later confirmed these obstructions upon arrival, further discrediting claims that USIP had only engaged in passive resistance. Much of USIP's leadership, including Moose, barricaded themselves on the building's fifth floor, closing window shades and blocking access points in a last-ditch effort to resist DOGE's entry, the official told the DCNF.

The obstruction didn't end at damaged doors. Prior to Monday's confrontation, USIP leaders disabled telephone lines, internet connections and other IT infrastructure, forcing communication among staff through walkie-talkies, according to the official. This deliberate effort to disrupt operations delayed DOGE's entry and added to the confusion during Monday's standoff.

Using a master key provided by the security contractor, Trump's team, accompanied by MPD officers, bypassed the damaged and barricaded entryway and "entered the facility through emergency stairs." Confronted with determined leadership and overwhelming force, resistance crumbled, and the insurrectionists exited the building.

"President Trump signed an executive order to reduce USIP to its statutory minimum. After noncompliance, 11 board members were lawfully removed, and remaining board members appointed Kenneth Jackson acting president," said White House spokesperson Anna Kelly in a statement. "Rogue bureaucrats will not be allowed to hold agencies hostage. The Trump administration will enforce the President's executive authority and ensure his agencies remain accountable to the American people."

USIP bureaucrats filed a lawsuit to regain control of the building. However, by some miracle, the judge turned them away even though she was "very offended by how DOGE has operated at the institute." Apparently, the irony of her sentencing J6 defendants to prison for walking through the Capitol and taking offense at the government evicting trespassers from a facility was lost on her.
Oh, and…an interagency 'consultancy' scam was dissolved.

Shock and awe:
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In reply to Big Al 1992 • 5:42p, 3/20/25
Big Al 1992 said:
Trying to explain to the fam the scale of this waste and fraud of our money when the media has (purposefully) minimized how much money we are talking about - they throw around terms of billion and trillion like it's nickels and dimes. This is A LOT of waste and fraud! Think about that as we are still expected to pay our "fair share" before April 15.

From Chat AI -
Sure! Here are some analogies to help illustrate the difference between a billion dollars and a trillion dollars:

1. **Time**:
- A billion seconds is about 31.7 years. If you started counting to a billion at birth, you would reach that number now if you were born in 1993.
- A trillion seconds is about 31,688.1 years. That's long enough to cover the span of human history from the Stone Age to today!

2. **Distance**:
- If a billion dollars were laid out in $100 bills, it would stretch approximately 358 miles. That's roughly the distance from New York City to Philadelphia.
- Conversely, a trillion dollars in $100 bills would stretch about 68,356 miles, which is more than two and a half times around the Earth at the equator!

3. **Stacking Bills**:
- A stack of a billion dollars in $100 bills would be about 1,000 feet tall, roughly the height of a third of the Empire State Building.
- A trillion dollars would create a stack over 67,000 feet tall, which is more than 12 times the height of Mount Everest!

4. **Spending**:
- If you spent a million dollars a day, it would take you about 2.74 years to spend a billion dollars.
- However, spending a million dollars a day would take you nearly 2,740 years to spend a trillion dollars!

5. **Population Comparison**:
- Imagine a city with a population of 1 billion people; that's larger than the current populations of India or China.
- A trillion people would be equivalent to having a populated planet where every person on Earth (approximately 8 billion) has a whole other Earth of people!

These analogies help convey just how staggering the difference is between a billion and a trillion, showcasing the monumental scale of a trillion, which is a thousand times larger than a billion!
Chat AI is hallucinating again...

The Empire State building is 1250 ft high. Not 3000.

And both China and India have around 1.4 billion people. Last I checked 1.4 > 1...
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In reply to nortex97 • 5:57p, 3/20/25
nortex97 said:
US Institute for Peace facility finally liberated from barricaded staffers who do not recognize the authority of the police/chief executive etc and removed locks/entrance devices to ensure no one could efficiently evict them. No, really, that happened today.
Quote:
DOGE staffers returned Monday and found organized resistance to entry.
Quote:
Contrary to earlier reporting by The Washington Post and The New York Times, which claimed the institute merely locked its doors, photographic evidence exclusively obtained by the DCNF shows locks had been physically removed from the exterior doors, effectively destroying entry mechanisms. The official said USIP staff removed the locks.

Moreover, staff contacted Washington's Metropolitan Police Department (MPD) in an attempt to prevent DOGE personnel from entering, citing barricaded doors and security concerns. MPD officers later confirmed these obstructions upon arrival, further discrediting claims that USIP had only engaged in passive resistance. Much of USIP's leadership, including Moose, barricaded themselves on the building's fifth floor, closing window shades and blocking access points in a last-ditch effort to resist DOGE's entry, the official told the DCNF.

The obstruction didn't end at damaged doors. Prior to Monday's confrontation, USIP leaders disabled telephone lines, internet connections and other IT infrastructure, forcing communication among staff through walkie-talkies, according to the official. This deliberate effort to disrupt operations delayed DOGE's entry and added to the confusion during Monday's standoff.

Using a master key provided by the security contractor, Trump's team, accompanied by MPD officers, bypassed the damaged and barricaded entryway and "entered the facility through emergency stairs." Confronted with determined leadership and overwhelming force, resistance crumbled, and the insurrectionists exited the building.

"President Trump signed an executive order to reduce USIP to its statutory minimum. After noncompliance, 11 board members were lawfully removed, and remaining board members appointed Kenneth Jackson acting president," said White House spokesperson Anna Kelly in a statement. "Rogue bureaucrats will not be allowed to hold agencies hostage. The Trump administration will enforce the President's executive authority and ensure his agencies remain accountable to the American people."

USIP bureaucrats filed a lawsuit to regain control of the building. However, by some miracle, the judge turned them away even though she was "very offended by how DOGE has operated at the institute." Apparently, the irony of her sentencing J6 defendants to prison for walking through the Capitol and taking offense at the government evicting trespassers from a facility was lost on her.
Oh, and…an interagency 'consultancy' scam was dissolved.

Shock and awe:
And war it basically is. That has been made clear by the coordinated over-stepping judiciary.

Its very important not to fall into a trap of behaving like Bush-era Republicans or CMs. Following procedures mindlessly when the other side does not. You have to match in kind to a degree.
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In reply to nortex97 • 6:31p, 3/20/25
nortex97 said:
US Institute for Peace facility finally liberated from barricaded staffers who do not recognize the authority of the police/chief executive etc and removed locks/entrance devices to ensure no one could efficiently evict them. No, really, that happened today.
Quote:
DOGE staffers returned Monday and found organized resistance to entry.
Quote:
Contrary to earlier reporting by The Washington Post and The New York Times, which claimed the institute merely locked its doors, photographic evidence exclusively obtained by the DCNF shows locks had been physically removed from the exterior doors, effectively destroying entry mechanisms. The official said USIP staff removed the locks.

Moreover, staff contacted Washington's Metropolitan Police Department (MPD) in an attempt to prevent DOGE personnel from entering, citing barricaded doors and security concerns. MPD officers later confirmed these obstructions upon arrival, further discrediting claims that USIP had only engaged in passive resistance. Much of USIP's leadership, including Moose, barricaded themselves on the building's fifth floor, closing window shades and blocking access points in a last-ditch effort to resist DOGE's entry, the official told the DCNF.

The obstruction didn't end at damaged doors. Prior to Monday's confrontation, USIP leaders disabled telephone lines, internet connections and other IT infrastructure, forcing communication among staff through walkie-talkies, according to the official. This deliberate effort to disrupt operations delayed DOGE's entry and added to the confusion during Monday's standoff.

Using a master key provided by the security contractor, Trump's team, accompanied by MPD officers, bypassed the damaged and barricaded entryway and "entered the facility through emergency stairs." Confronted with determined leadership and overwhelming force, resistance crumbled, and the insurrectionists exited the building.

"President Trump signed an executive order to reduce USIP to its statutory minimum. After noncompliance, 11 board members were lawfully removed, and remaining board members appointed Kenneth Jackson acting president," said White House spokesperson Anna Kelly in a statement. "Rogue bureaucrats will not be allowed to hold agencies hostage. The Trump administration will enforce the President's executive authority and ensure his agencies remain accountable to the American people."

USIP bureaucrats filed a lawsuit to regain control of the building. However, by some miracle, the judge turned them away even though she was "very offended by how DOGE has operated at the institute." Apparently, the irony of her sentencing J6 defendants to prison for walking through the Capitol and taking offense at the government evicting trespassers from a facility was lost on her.
Oh, and…an interagency 'consultancy' scam was dissolved.

Shock and awe:

They've got "sip" in their name. What do you expect?
Trump will fix it.
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In reply to titan • 6:50p, 3/20/25
titan said:

And war it basically is. That has been made clear by the coordinated over-stepping judiciary.

Its very important not to fall into a trap of behaving like Bush-era Republicans or CMs. Following procedures mindlessly when the other side does not. You have to match in kind to a degree.
Trump learned a hard lesson in his first term. Never let the enemy dictate the battlefield or the terms of engagement. Trump and his team have been outstanding at setting up these battles so they are fought on his terms and in ways that he is likely to prevail, even when they end up in court. It has been both incredibly interesting and gratifying to watch extremely competent professionals take out the bureaucracy with speed and almost clinical precision.

With the incredible team he assembled and the master strategy they developed over the four years he was out of office, the bureaucracy doesn't stand much of a chance of stopping him. I don't know how long Musk has been in the equation as it seems like he was fairly late to the fray, but Trump bringing him and his young geniuses into the fold was the masterstroke that made it all work. This is why the left is fuming mad at Musk and everything he is associated with in the market.
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nortex97 said:
US Institute for Peace facility finally liberated from barricaded staffers who do not recognize the authority of the police/chief executive etc and removed locks/entrance devices to ensure no one could efficiently evict them. No, really, that happened today.

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DOGE staffers returned Monday and found organized resistance to entry.


Trump will fix it.
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In reply to BusterAg • 8:57a, 3/21/25
BusterAg said:
FireAg said:
The rub becomes codifying it though…

We can focus on those things all we want, but it's a short term focus, fueled by EOs, until enough folks in Congress are motivated to codify things permanently…
I am pretty sure that even Congress is not stupid enough to further fund USAID by statute at this point.
If only F16 voted, then yes. You seem to forget a large number of people support some or all of the work USAID is doing. Same with Department of Education and so on. That's part of how we have gotten to where we are now.
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In reply to BBRex • 9:02a, 3/21/25
BBRex said:
BusterAg said:
FireAg said:
The rub becomes codifying it though…

We can focus on those things all we want, but it's a short term focus, fueled by EOs, until enough folks in Congress are motivated to codify things permanently…
I am pretty sure that even Congress is not stupid enough to further fund USAID by statute at this point.
If only F16 voted, then yes. You seem to forget a large number of people support some or all of the work USAID is doing. Same with Department of Education and so on. That's part of how we have gotten to where we are now.
Probably a lot of liberals, not insane Leftists, didn't want their money flushed that way either. Not many except those directly on the trough could like having so much being wasted while having to spend and contend with so much themselves. And those of them that think outside "education" cannot like having been just lied to about everything government going on which Tapper's book is even de-facto conceding.
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