suburban cowboy said:

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You're gonna be shocked to read the thread and find out that most don't especially care that he was fired or not.

But who am I kidding, you're not gonna read the thread.

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I read the thread.

All of what I said rings true and is absolutely relevant to this thread.

American people are exhausted from the one sided hatred and that's ultimately why Kimmel is getting fired.

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You're delusional if you truly believe it's one sided

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Nah.

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You desperately need to come out of your media bubble.

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Madmarttigan said:

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I don't give a rats ass about Jimmy Kimmel.

That being said a bunch of snowflakes in here celebrating **** the liberals used to do.

This was such a nothing burger bit said by him.

I'm tired of snowflakes on both sides.

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One side is killing their opposition. One isn't.

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what happened to Melissa Hortman?

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Excellent example of whataboutism.

Maybe making a separate thread comparing and contrasting her death and Charlie Kirk's.

President Trump, Jan 20: “I will also sign an executive order to immediately stop all government censorship and bring back free speech to America. Never again will the immense power of the state be weaponized to persecute political opponents.” pic.twitter.com/S990o9Mcsy

— Sahil Kapur (@sahilkapur) September 18, 2025

It was the crux of the post, yet you made it the second most important point?

I wasn't "avoiding" your second point. It had nothing to do with my post, so I don't know why you threw that in there. If the standard to kick someone off the air is whether or not we think they are lying about something, then what stops the FCC from kicking all left-leaning broadcasts off the air because they have a differing opinion from the administration?

It's interesting reading this thread.

Kirk himself told college students to get their information from sources other than Kimmel or Fox News that have agenda's.

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suburban cowboy said:

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Madmarttigan said:

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I don't give a rats ass about Jimmy Kimmel.

That being said a bunch of snowflakes in here celebrating **** the liberals used to do.

This was such a nothing burger bit said by him.

I'm tired of snowflakes on both sides.

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One side is killing their opposition. One isn't.

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You know Democratic politicians and their families have been attacked in recent months, right?

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You're trying to talk sense to complete and utter delusion. To them...

- the conservatives who attempted to kidnap and execute Gretchen Whitmer (for which they are now in jail)...

- the conservative who attempted to kill Nancy Pelosi's husband (for which he is now in jail)...

- the conversation who killed Melissa Hortman and her husband (for which he is now in jail)...

... etc, etc, etc don't exist (all of which were verified as politically motivated, btw). Because their existence would ruin not just these people's ridiculously hypocritical and reductive takes, but often their entire identities (Libs evil! Conservatives good!).

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It's not even comparable. The left is FAR more violent than the right.

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Lol

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/sep/17/justice-department-study-far-right-extremist-violence

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The US justice department has scrubbed a study from its website concluding that far-right extremists have killed far more Americans than any other domestic terrorist group, just days after a gunman fatally shot the prominent conservative activist Charlie Kirk.

The report, now archived, titled What NIJ Research Tells Us About Domestic Terrorism, vanished from the Department of Justice website between 11 and 12 September, according to Jason Paladino, an independent investigative reporter who first wrote the story. Kirk, the 31-year-old Turning Point USA founder and Trump ally, was gunned down while speaking at Utah Valley University on 10 September.

The vanished study opened with: "Since 1990, far-right extremists have committed far more ideologically motivated homicides than far-left or radical Islamist extremists, including 227 events that took more than 520 lives. In this same period, far-left extremists committed 42 ideologically motivated attacks that took 78 lives."

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I guess the ministry of truth got to it.

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Or it's because maybe the data was absolute garbage and was something similar to all of the other charts showing the RW commits more violence than the left, and completely fabricated out of whole cloth. I'd be happy to post more than this, but the data is always bs

I don’t have time to do all of that, but I did check the three month period starting Nov 2021. Worth noting this time period includes date of sentencing, not date of incident.

There were 26 cases listed. 7 were dismissible outright. I’ll get into those in this thread.

In… https://t.co/oG5bNwSSvZ

— memetic_sisyphus (@memeticsisyphus) September 16, 2025

swimmerbabe11 said:

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suburban cowboy said:

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Madmarttigan said:

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I don't give a rats ass about Jimmy Kimmel.

That being said a bunch of snowflakes in here celebrating **** the liberals used to do.

This was such a nothing burger bit said by him.

I'm tired of snowflakes on both sides.

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One side is killing their opposition. One isn't.

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what happened to Melissa Hortman?

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That was clearly a schizophrenic break with reality and not politically motivated at all. It's perfectly acceptable to call it what it is. The man said he was trying to help Tim walz take out political rivals. It's clearly the rantings of a nut job.

I guess I’ll just have to keep repeating that Vance Boelter, the guy who killed the Minnesota Dem rep, was a deranged lunatic who thought the US army had secretly trained him and he was acting on direct orders from Tim Walz to take out Walz’s political obstacles.

Tragic, yes,… https://t.co/hsOMR7C0ke pic.twitter.com/UOYLPwFTrr

— Lomez (@L0m3z) September 17, 2025

This thread has become inhumane

Another post on the fact that the data used to push the absolute farcical lie that the right commits more violence is complete garbage. I'd be happy to post some more thorough debunkings of this data where people go through it esentially line by line.

This chart from the @TheEconomist that purports to show an over representation of right wing violence was made from a dataset compiled from a self-identifying Antifa activist named Michael Loadenthal.

It is absurdly funny how brazen they still lie about this stuff. https://t.co/ndufjgZQTX

— Lomez (@L0m3z) September 18, 2025

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Madmarttigan said:

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I don't give a rats ass about Jimmy Kimmel.

That being said a bunch of snowflakes in here celebrating **** the liberals used to do.

This was such a nothing burger bit said by him.

I'm tired of snowflakes on both sides.

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One side is killing their opposition. One isn't.

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what happened to Melissa Hortman?

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That was clearly a schizophrenic break with reality and not politically motivated at all. It's perfectly acceptable to call it what it is. The man said he was trying to help Tim walz take out political rivals. It's clearly the rantings of a nut job.

I guess I’ll just have to keep repeating that Vance Boelter, the guy who killed the Minnesota Dem rep, was a deranged lunatic who thought the US army had secretly trained him and he was acting on direct orders from Tim Walz to take out Walz’s political obstacles.

Tragic, yes,… https://t.co/hsOMR7C0ke pic.twitter.com/UOYLPwFTrr

— Lomez (@L0m3z) September 17, 2025

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You keep saying that. You keep attaching to any evidence whatsoever that this wasn't due to politics. Even if the guy had a psychotic break, he was clearly motivated by politics. He clearly, strongly believed in conservative causes. And his Target list was all Democrats.

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Another post on the fact that the data used to push the absolute farcical lie that the right commits more violence is complete garbage. I'd be happy to post some more thorough debunkings of this data where people go through it esentially line by line.

This chart from the @TheEconomist that purports to show an over representation of right wing violence was made from a dataset compiled from a self-identifying Antifa activist named Michael Loadenthal.

It is absurdly funny how brazen they still lie about this stuff. https://t.co/ndufjgZQTX

— Lomez (@L0m3z) September 18, 2025

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Except these aren't debunkings. They're cherry picking and ad hominems.

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suburban cowboy said:

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Madmarttigan said:

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I don't give a rats ass about Jimmy Kimmel.

That being said a bunch of snowflakes in here celebrating **** the liberals used to do.

This was such a nothing burger bit said by him.

I'm tired of snowflakes on both sides.

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One side is killing their opposition. One isn't.

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what happened to Melissa Hortman?

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That was clearly a schizophrenic break with reality and not politically motivated at all. It's perfectly acceptable to call it what it is. The man said he was trying to help Tim walz take out political rivals. It's clearly the rantings of a nut job.

I guess I’ll just have to keep repeating that Vance Boelter, the guy who killed the Minnesota Dem rep, was a deranged lunatic who thought the US army had secretly trained him and he was acting on direct orders from Tim Walz to take out Walz’s political obstacles.

Tragic, yes,… https://t.co/hsOMR7C0ke pic.twitter.com/UOYLPwFTrr

— Lomez (@L0m3z) September 17, 2025

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You keep saying that. You keep attaching to any evidence whatsoever that this wasn't due to politics. Even if the guy had a psychotic break, he was clearly motivated by politics. He clearly, strongly believed in conservative causes. And his Target list was all Democrats.

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And he believed he was acting to further the political goals of Tim walz. Even if it was politically motivated, you can't count the actions of someone who has clearly had a schizophrenic break. We often don't even let those types of people stand trial in america.

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This thread has become inhumane

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Inhumane is the murder of babies, which liberals and Kimmel openly support.

Inhumane is assassinating a Godly man and American patriot by shooting him in the throat in front of thousands of people, openly celebrating it and trying to gaslight the world that MAGA is responsible for and deserved it.

This person picked a random three month period and looked at every single item. Some of the things that were counted as right wing violence was someone placing stickers around town, prison gangs doing prison gang things and black guys robbing Mexicans

I don’t have time to do all of that, but I did check the three month period starting Nov 2021. Worth noting this time period includes date of sentencing, not date of incident.

There were 26 cases listed. 7 were dismissible outright. I’ll get into those in this thread.

In… https://t.co/oG5bNwSSvZ

— memetic_sisyphus (@memeticsisyphus) September 16, 2025

This same person took the very first items listed and they were things like a homeless guy saying a slur when attacking a hotel counter worker and a black woman slapping Jewish people in New York.

I went to this source in the first five listed as right wing violence one was a homeless man who said a racial slur when he broke into a hotel and attacked the guy behind the counter. The homeless man was put into a mental institution, and another was a black woman who slapped a… https://t.co/FYJ7zrYswV

— memetic_sisyphus (@memeticsisyphus) September 16, 2025

This isn't cherry picking, it's a complete corruption of the underlying data. The bias of the person assigning the values to the crime clearly shines through.

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This thread has become inhumane

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Inhumane is the murder of babies, which liberals and Kimmel openly support.

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Holy red herring, Batman!

In another instance, someone tried to look at the underlying data and the link was simply to a spreadsheet. Incredible.

I read through it, scan down to a table where I'd like to investigate the source. I click "Get the data" and I get... the same table, but in Excel format

Give me a break. That's just sloppy. https://t.co/wBXNLqQ3DR

— PoIiMath (@politicalmath) September 18, 2025

I've read of some people on the left in the wake of last week and the general applause/indifference finally have their "are we the baddies?" moment. It isn't a game, CK's views were fairly mainstream for the most part, he invited debate and discussion, he didn't call for violence, and when he was offed it was celebrated. That's beyond the pale. Moral compass shut down by ideology. Kimmel's attempt to lie and pin it on MAGA instead of shutting TFU or maybe using his platform to dial back the tension says everything about him.

Time again to remind that an early sign of Putin's autocratic ambitions was the cancellation of a puppet show that regularly parodied him. https://t.co/4i2Imcq90v

— Garry Kasparov (@Kasparov63) September 17, 2025

Roseanne Barr – Fired by ABC/Disney and her hit show Roseanne canceled overnight in 2018 after one tweet. Hundreds of cast and crew lost their jobs.

Gina Carano – Fired from The Mandalorian in 2021 for social media posts that didn’t fit the Left’s politics. Dropped by her agency…

— SWAMPIST (@swamp_ist) September 18, 2025

Not sure the relevance here, but my dude, Rosanne compared black people to the Planet of the Apes.

And one more time, since it seems to have been missed the first dozen plus times: no one here is saying that ABC didn't have the right to cancel the show or shouldn't have. They're saying it shouldn't be due to political pressure from an administration, which seems to have been an influence.

The Glaring diff here, Cliff is that the FCC/Adminsitration did not put pressure on those firings. That is textbook freedom of speech violation.

Your employer firing you for acting one way or another is not that.

No one is making a decision like this off of some bluster. Trump's administration blusters a lot then doesn't follow thru. Accounting and reputation drove this

We now know that the Biden admin put pressure on social media networks in the background to silence everyday Americans for a whole host of things, why are you so confident they didn't do the same to on air talent via the FCC or other avenues?

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suburban cowboy said:

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Madmarttigan said:

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I don't give a rats ass about Jimmy Kimmel.

That being said a bunch of snowflakes in here celebrating **** the liberals used to do.

This was such a nothing burger bit said by him.

I'm tired of snowflakes on both sides.

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One side is killing their opposition. One isn't.

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what happened to Melissa Hortman?

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You mean the lady killed by the guy appointed by a democrat governor, reappointed by Tim Waltz, had No Kings flyers in his car, and wrote in his confession that Tim Waltz instructed him to do it? I don't think this is rhe MAGA man you think he is.

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Of course, nobody REALLY thinks Tim Waltz instructed him to do it. But that and the rest shows this is more a case of a guy being nuttier than squirl poop, than a case of "conservative violence"?

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He had a hit list of 45 Democrats. Yes, he was a conservative and he might have been insane (or trying to make a case for court). The two are not separate

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Let's assume that he was perfectly sane... There has been nothing said by republican pundits or politicians that called Melissa Hortman "Stalin" or "Lenin" who was trying to "destroy democracy". There was nothing being "passed down" that could ever be considered "suggestions" for anybody to kill her. That's why there wasn't a huge pile of conservatives on social media celebrating her death and calling him a "hero". Most people had never even heard of her. It's just that this guy was a bankrupt jackass, who had given up on life, and wanted to go out in a twisted blaze of glory.

Meanwhile on your side, you have a normal kid who was radicalized in a short time to think that Trump is Hitler, that conservatives are Nazis, and that Charlie Kirk was basically Goebbles. Which is something that lib pundits have been saying non-stop for a decade. All that is needed is for somebody to "step up" and be the left's modern Stauffenberg. So that's why we DO have a crap-ton of leftists celebrating Kirk's death. Who wouldn't celebrate the death of Goebbles? So those dumbasses who actually thinks that Kirk=Goebbles celebrate. That is why the left punditry and political class deserve much more of the blame.

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Time again to remind that an early sign of Putin's autocratic ambitions was the cancellation of a puppet show that regularly parodied him. https://t.co/4i2Imcq90v

— Garry Kasparov (@Kasparov63) September 17, 2025

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Another reminder expertise is asymmetrical. It doesn't translate to everything else you do.

The two carriers that reportedly pressured ABC to cancel the show have upcoming mergers that need FCC approval, as has been mentioned before on this thread.

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Madmarttigan said:

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I don't give a rats ass about Jimmy Kimmel.

That being said a bunch of snowflakes in here celebrating **** the liberals used to do.

This was such a nothing burger bit said by him.

I'm tired of snowflakes on both sides.

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One side is killing their opposition. One isn't.

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what happened to Melissa Hortman?

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You mean the lady killed by the guy appointed by a democrat governor, reappointed by Tim Waltz, had No Kings flyers in his car, and wrote in his confession that Tim Waltz instructed him to do it? I don't think this is rhe MAGA man you think he is.

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Of course, nobody REALLY thinks Tim Waltz instructed him to do it. But that and the rest shows this is more a case of a guy being nuttier than squirl poop, than a case of "conservative violence"?

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He had a hit list of 45 Democrats. Yes, he was a conservative and he might have been insane (or trying to make a case for court). The two are not separate

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Let's assume that he was perfectly sane... There has been nothing said by republican pundits or politicians that called Melissa Hortman "Stalin" or "Lenin" who was trying to "destroy democracy". There was nothing being "passed down" that could ever be considered "suggestions" for anybody to kill her. That's why there wasn't a huge pile of conservatives on social media celebrating her death and calling him a "hero". Most people had never even heard of her. It's just that this guy was a bankrupt jackass, who had given up on life, and wanted to go out in a twisted blaze of glory.

Meanwhile on your side, you have a normal kid who was radicalized in a short time to think that Trump is Hitler, that conservatives are Nazis, and that Charlie Kirk was basically Goebbles. Which is something that lib pundits have been saying non-stop for a decade. All that is needed is for somebody to "step up" and be the left's modern Stauffenberg. So that's why we DO have a crap-ton of leftists celebrating Kirk's death. Who wouldn't celebrate the death of Goebbles? So those dumbasses who actually thinks that Kirk=Goebbles celebrate. That is why the left punditry and political class deserve much more of the blame.

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Funny that both of you are doing the same thing that Kimmel joked about.

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The Glaring diff here, Cliff is that the FCC/Adminsitration did not put pressure on those firings. That is textbook freedom of speech violation.

Your employer firing you for acting one way or another is not that.

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The Biden administration literally instructed social media companies to delete and suppress posts they didn't like. That even wasn't under he guise of guise FCC regulatory role. It was just them directly using the government to suppress speech.

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Madmarttigan said:

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I don't give a rats ass about Jimmy Kimmel.

That being said a bunch of snowflakes in here celebrating **** the liberals used to do.

This was such a nothing burger bit said by him.

I'm tired of snowflakes on both sides.

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One side is killing their opposition. One isn't.

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what happened to Melissa Hortman?

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You mean the lady killed by the guy appointed by a democrat governor, reappointed by Tim Waltz, had No Kings flyers in his car, and wrote in his confession that Tim Waltz instructed him to do it? I don't think this is rhe MAGA man you think he is.

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Of course, nobody REALLY thinks Tim Waltz instructed him to do it. But that and the rest shows this is more a case of a guy being nuttier than squirl poop, than a case of "conservative violence"?

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He had a hit list of 45 Democrats. Yes, he was a conservative and he might have been insane (or trying to make a case for court). The two are not separate

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Let's assume that he was perfectly sane... There has been nothing said by republican pundits or politicians that called Melissa Hortman "Stalin" or "Lenin" who was trying to "destroy democracy". There was nothing being "passed down" that could ever be considered "suggestions" for anybody to kill her. That's why there wasn't a huge pile of conservatives on social media celebrating her death and calling him a "hero". Most people had never even heard of her. It's just that this guy was a bankrupt jackass, who had given up on life, and wanted to go out in a twisted blaze of glory.

Meanwhile on your side, you have a normal kid who was radicalized in a short time to think that Trump is Hitler, that conservatives are Nazis, and that Charlie Kirk was basically Goebbles. Which is something that lib pundits have been saying non-stop for a decade. All that is needed is for somebody to "step up" and be the left's modern Stauffenberg. So that's why we DO have a crap-ton of leftists celebrating Kirk's death. Who wouldn't celebrate the death of Goebbles? So those dumbasses who actually thinks that Kirk=Goebbles celebrate. That is why the left punditry and political class deserve much more of the blame.

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Funny that both of you are doing the same thing that Kimmel joked about.

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Kimmel joked about correctly pointing out how the left leadership incites violence?

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The Glaring diff here, Cliff is that the FCC/Adminsitration did not put pressure on those firings. That is textbook freedom of speech violation.

Your employer firing you for acting one way or another is not that.

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The Biden administration literally instructed social media companies to delete and suppress posts they didn't like. That even wasn't under he guise of guise FCC regulatory role. It was just them directly using the government to suppress speech.

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You are mischaracterizing this, big time.

https://www.npr.org/2024/06/26/nx-s1-5003970/supreme-court-social-media-case


Writing for a liberal-conservative coalition of six justices, Justice Amy Coney Barrett said that neither the five individuals nor the two states who sued the government had legal standing to be in court at all. She said they presented no proof to back up their claims that the government had pressured social media companies like Twitter and Facebook into restricting their speech. "Unfortunately," she said, the Fifth Circuit court of appeals "relied on factual findings that are "clearly erroneous."

For instance, she said, the plaintiffs who brought the case maintained that the White House had bombarded Twitter with requests to set up a streamlined process for censorship requests. But in fact, she said, the record showed no such requests. Rather, on one occasion a White House official asked Twitter to remove a fake account pretending to be the account of Biden's granddaughter. Twitter took down the fake account and told the official about a portal that could be used in the future to flag similar issues.

"Justice Barrett went out of her way to stress that facts matter and that lower courts in this case embraced a fact-free version of what transpired between officials in the Biden administration and Facebook, Twitter and other social media companies," said law professor Paul Barrett, no relation to the justice, who is deputy director of the Stern Center for Business and Human Rights at NYU.

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I've read of some people on the left in the wake of last week and the general applause/indifference finally have their "are we the baddies?" moment. It isn't a game, CK's views were fairly mainstream for the most part, he invited debate and discussion, he didn't call for violence, and when he was offed it was celebrated. That's beyond the pale. Moral compass shut down by ideology. Kimmel's attempt to lie and pin it on MAGA instead of shutting TFU or maybe using his platform to dial back the tension says everything about him.

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I think more people are deep within their own bubbles than they can really see. Before this happened, I basically had no idea who Kirk was. As to how mainstream his ideas were, I find it somewhat telling that the people praising him never use his own words in their eulogies.

Also, while everyone jumps to conclusions informed by their own biases (just part of how the brain works) we actually don't know **** about the shooter or his motives.

So Kimmel could be completely wrong (I think he is, but I cant KNOW that right now) You can't really lie when you don't know. All the FCC threats would never hold up to scrutiny. And I sincerely doubt that people praising Kimmels firing would be out in full force demanding his reinstatement if it comes out during the trial that the shooter was full MAGA and pulled the trigger for some other unknown bat**** crazy reason.

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The Glaring diff here, Cliff is that the FCC/Adminsitration did not put pressure on those firings. That is textbook freedom of speech violation.

Your employer firing you for acting one way or another is not that.

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The Biden administration literally instructed social media companies to delete and suppress posts they didn't like. That even wasn't under he guise of guise FCC regulatory role. It was just them directly using the government to suppress speech.

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You are mischaracterizing this, big time.

https://www.npr.org/2024/06/26/nx-s1-5003970/supreme-court-social-media-case


Writing for a liberal-conservative coalition of six justices, Justice Amy Coney Barrett said that neither the five individuals nor the two states who sued the government had legal standing to be in court at all. She said they presented no proof to back up their claims that the government had pressured social media companies like Twitter and Facebook into restricting their speech. "Unfortunately," she said, the Fifth Circuit court of appeals "relied on factual findings that are "clearly erroneous."

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We have communications within social media entities and direct confirmation from people like Zuckerberg stating that they chose to censor information on the basis that they received direction from the White House.

Also the bolded is a mischaracterization of what she said. Her statement was that they could not prove that the social media entities would not have acted against them in the absence of government influence. Basically saying that it was purely speculative that the suggestions from the white house (which we know from multiple sources was real) were the reason for the censorship. Hilariously you could apply this same reasoning to Kimmel's firing as not being coerced by the current white house.

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Macarthur said:

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aTmAg said:

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Macarthur said:

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The Glaring diff here, Cliff is that the FCC/Adminsitration did not put pressure on those firings. That is textbook freedom of speech violation.

Your employer firing you for acting one way or another is not that.

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The Biden administration literally instructed social media companies to delete and suppress posts they didn't like. That even wasn't under he guise of guise FCC regulatory role. It was just them directly using the government to suppress speech.

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You are mischaracterizing this, big time.

https://www.npr.org/2024/06/26/nx-s1-5003970/supreme-court-social-media-case


Writing for a liberal-conservative coalition of six justices, Justice Amy Coney Barrett said that neither the five individuals nor the two states who sued the government had legal standing to be in court at all. She said they presented no proof to back up their claims that the government had pressured social media companies like Twitter and Facebook into restricting their speech. "Unfortunately," she said, the Fifth Circuit court of appeals "relied on factual findings that are "clearly erroneous."

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We have communications within social media entities and direct confirmation from people like Zuckerberg stating that they chose to censor information on the basis that they received direction from the White House.

Also the bolded is a mischaracterization of what she said. Her statement was that they could not prove that the social media entities would not have acted against them in the absence of government influence. Basically saying that it was purely speculative that the suggestions from the white house (which we know from multiple sources was real) were the reason for the censorship. Hilariously you could apply this same reasoning to Kimmel's firing as not being coerced by the current white house.

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https://www.axios.com/2025/01/10/mark-zuckerberg-joe-rogan-facebook-censorship-biden

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I've read of some people on the left in the wake of last week and the general applause/indifference finally have their "are we the baddies?" moment. It isn't a game, CK's views were fairly mainstream for the most part, he invited debate and discussion, he didn't call for violence, and when he was offed it was celebrated. That's beyond the pale. Moral compass shut down by ideology. Kimmel's attempt to lie and pin it on MAGA instead of shutting TFU or maybe using his platform to dial back the tension says everything about him.

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I think more people are deep within their own bubbles than they can really see. Before this happened, I basically had no idea who Kirk was. As to how mainstream his ideas were, I find it somewhat telling that the people praising him never use his own words in their eulogies.

Also, while everyone jumps to conclusions informed by their own biases (just part of how the brain works) we actually don't know **** about the shooter or his motives.

So Kimmel could be completely wrong (I think he is, but I cant KNOW that right now) You can't really lie when you don't know. All the FCC threats would never hold up to scrutiny. And I sincerely doubt that people praising Kimmels firing would be out in full force demanding his reinstatement if it comes out during the trial that the shooter was full MAGA and pulled the trigger for some other unknown bat**** crazy reason.

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Is this confirmation of how deep you are within your own bubble or an accusation against others? Seems like it could go both ways.