Trump Shutting Down USAID

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Weirdos

Not sure I would want people applauding me getting fired. Even if it's in support of me.
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oh no said:




Is this all staged? Why did they have suitcases at "work"?
They may be leaving the country to flee prosecution.
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samurai_science said:

No Spin Ag said:

techno-ag said:

No Spin Ag said:

nortex97 said:

I am unclear what grants are still flowing. I've been curious about that as well.


I hope they're ones that go to food for starving people. Not just for the people in need but for the farmers here that are relying on the contracts through USAID for their livelihoods as well.
As we've seen, often the food money goes to the local dictator who then pockets it. Dems get to proudly proclaim they're feeding the poor while communist dictators get richer.


Your thoughts on the farmers who are paid by USAID for the food that goes to those countries? They're being affected (losing out) as well.
I think we should return to the free market and not pay farms to feed other people in other counties.

There will always be an excuse to not cut off one special interest group or another.


I'm all for the free market. It's interesting to see conservatives not care that farmers are getting the short end of the stick though. That's a first for me.
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They sure seem proud of themselves for participating in starting and funding endless wars, subverting every country on earth's opportunity at self-governance, and co-opting the labor of American taxpayers on behalf of the political glitterati.

Seems like they dancing when it's 77-0.
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No Spin Ag said:

JFABNRGR said:

No Spin Ag said:

techno-ag said:

No Spin Ag said:

nortex97 said:

I am unclear what grants are still flowing. I've been curious about that as well.


I hope they're ones that go to food for starving people. Not just for the people in need but for the farmers here that are relying on the contracts through USAID for their livelihoods as well.
As we've seen, often the food money goes to the local dictator who then pockets it. Dems get to proudly proclaim they're feeding the poor while communist dictators get richer.


Your thoughts on the farmers who are paid by USAID for the food that goes to those countries? They're being affected (losing out) as well.
Can you provide a link to how much food USAID actually provided?

The only one I saw was clintons daughter who provided about 11,000 meals at a cost of $1800 each.

Also isn't the UN supposed to be doing that along with probably hundreds of other non-profits?


I'm thinking of our farmers who make their living by providing the food.
Again do you have a link to how much food our farmers were providing due to USAID contracts?
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JFABNRGR said:

No Spin Ag said:

JFABNRGR said:

No Spin Ag said:

techno-ag said:

No Spin Ag said:

nortex97 said:

I am unclear what grants are still flowing. I've been curious about that as well.


I hope they're ones that go to food for starving people. Not just for the people in need but for the farmers here that are relying on the contracts through USAID for their livelihoods as well.
As we've seen, often the food money goes to the local dictator who then pockets it. Dems get to proudly proclaim they're feeding the poor while communist dictators get richer.


Your thoughts on the farmers who are paid by USAID for the food that goes to those countries? They're being affected (losing out) as well.
Can you provide a link to how much food USAID actually provided?

The only one I saw was clintons daughter who provided about 11,000 meals at a cost of $1800 each.

Also isn't the UN supposed to be doing that along with probably hundreds of other non-profits?


I'm thinking of our farmers who make their living by providing the food.
Again do you have a link to how much food our farmers were providing due to USAID contracts?


No, but if there's no link, yet farmers on social media are complaining, I take it we should just ignore them.

The reality it, the food came from our farmers, so when things get cut, the farmers are going to lose out, period.

Regardless of the amount, are you fine with them just being SOL?
There are in fact two things, science and opinion; the former begets knowledge, the later ignorance. Hippocrates
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No Spin Ag said:

techno-ag said:

No Spin Ag said:

nortex97 said:

I am unclear what grants are still flowing. I've been curious about that as well.


I hope they're ones that go to food for starving people. Not just for the people in need but for the farmers here that are relying on the contracts through USAID for their livelihoods as well.
As we've seen, often the food money goes to the local dictator who then pockets it. Dems get to proudly proclaim they're feeding the poor while communist dictators get richer.


Your thoughts on the farmers who are paid by USAID for the food that goes to those countries? They're being affected (losing out) as well.
You think some USAID employee goes out to the field and buys crops directly from the farmer.
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Suitcase is…..

To carry out her own weight in evidence aggainst her/USAID.

or

To carry out the office "cash drawer".

or

To carry out Whistleblower's body.

or

Carry out a bunch of sexy toys/dress up. Or is that just talk on a Teams chat?


To carry her cats?


It's all bad, I'm sure….
"Green" is the new RED.
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No Spin Ag said:

JFABNRGR said:

No Spin Ag said:

JFABNRGR said:

No Spin Ag said:

techno-ag said:

No Spin Ag said:

nortex97 said:

I am unclear what grants are still flowing. I've been curious about that as well.


I hope they're ones that go to food for starving people. Not just for the people in need but for the farmers here that are relying on the contracts through USAID for their livelihoods as well.
As we've seen, often the food money goes to the local dictator who then pockets it. Dems get to proudly proclaim they're feeding the poor while communist dictators get richer.


Your thoughts on the farmers who are paid by USAID for the food that goes to those countries? They're being affected (losing out) as well.
Can you provide a link to how much food USAID actually provided?

The only one I saw was clintons daughter who provided about 11,000 meals at a cost of $1800 each.

Also isn't the UN supposed to be doing that along with probably hundreds of other non-profits?


I'm thinking of our farmers who make their living by providing the food.
Again do you have a link to how much food our farmers were providing due to USAID contracts?


No, but if there's no link, yet farmers on social media are complaining, I take it we should just ignore them.

The reality it, the food came from our farmers, so when things get cut, the farmers are going to lose out, period.

Regardless of the amount, are you fine with them just being SOL?


Yes
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No Spin Ag said:

JFABNRGR said:

No Spin Ag said:

JFABNRGR said:

No Spin Ag said:

techno-ag said:

No Spin Ag said:

nortex97 said:

I am unclear what grants are still flowing. I've been curious about that as well.


I hope they're ones that go to food for starving people. Not just for the people in need but for the farmers here that are relying on the contracts through USAID for their livelihoods as well.
As we've seen, often the food money goes to the local dictator who then pockets it. Dems get to proudly proclaim they're feeding the poor while communist dictators get richer.


Your thoughts on the farmers who are paid by USAID for the food that goes to those countries? They're being affected (losing out) as well.
Can you provide a link to how much food USAID actually provided?

The only one I saw was clintons daughter who provided about 11,000 meals at a cost of $1800 each.

Also isn't the UN supposed to be doing that along with probably hundreds of other non-profits?


I'm thinking of our farmers who make their living by providing the food.
Again do you have a link to how much food our farmers were providing due to USAID contracts?


No, but if there's no link, yet farmers on social media are complaining, I take it we should just ignore them.

The reality it, the food came from our farmers, so when things get cut, the farmers are going to lose out, period.

Regardless of the amount, are you fine with them just being SOL?
I am for accountability and what's best for America. That said, trust but verify, can you even post the social media links of the farmers complaining? We haven't seen a single case in which usaid was ever providing any food with the exception of clintons $1800 happy meals.
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No Spin Ag said:

JFABNRGR said:

No Spin Ag said:

JFABNRGR said:

No Spin Ag said:

techno-ag said:

No Spin Ag said:

nortex97 said:

I am unclear what grants are still flowing. I've been curious about that as well.


I hope they're ones that go to food for starving people. Not just for the people in need but for the farmers here that are relying on the contracts through USAID for their livelihoods as well.
As we've seen, often the food money goes to the local dictator who then pockets it. Dems get to proudly proclaim they're feeding the poor while communist dictators get richer.


Your thoughts on the farmers who are paid by USAID for the food that goes to those countries? They're being affected (losing out) as well.
Can you provide a link to how much food USAID actually provided?

The only one I saw was clintons daughter who provided about 11,000 meals at a cost of $1800 each.

Also isn't the UN supposed to be doing that along with probably hundreds of other non-profits?


I'm thinking of our farmers who make their living by providing the food.
Again do you have a link to how much food our farmers were providing due to USAID contracts?


No, but if there's no link, yet farmers on social media are complaining, I take it we should just ignore them.

The reality it, the food came from our farmers, so when things get cut, the farmers are going to lose out, period.

Regardless of the amount, are you fine with them just being SOL?


People on social media complaining could be bots or anything else how about some actual data?
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samurai_science said:

No Spin Ag said:

JFABNRGR said:

No Spin Ag said:

JFABNRGR said:

No Spin Ag said:

techno-ag said:

No Spin Ag said:

nortex97 said:

I am unclear what grants are still flowing. I've been curious about that as well.


I hope they're ones that go to food for starving people. Not just for the people in need but for the farmers here that are relying on the contracts through USAID for their livelihoods as well.
As we've seen, often the food money goes to the local dictator who then pockets it. Dems get to proudly proclaim they're feeding the poor while communist dictators get richer.


Your thoughts on the farmers who are paid by USAID for the food that goes to those countries? They're being affected (losing out) as well.
Can you provide a link to how much food USAID actually provided?

The only one I saw was clintons daughter who provided about 11,000 meals at a cost of $1800 each.

Also isn't the UN supposed to be doing that along with probably hundreds of other non-profits?


I'm thinking of our farmers who make their living by providing the food.
Again do you have a link to how much food our farmers were providing due to USAID contracts?


No, but if there's no link, yet farmers on social media are complaining, I take it we should just ignore them.

The reality it, the food came from our farmers, so when things get cut, the farmers are going to lose out, period.

Regardless of the amount, are you fine with them just being SOL?


People on social media complaining could be bots or anything else how about some actual data?


You do accept the fact that the food we send through USAID comes from American farmers, right?
There are in fact two things, science and opinion; the former begets knowledge, the later ignorance. Hippocrates
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JFABNRGR said:

No Spin Ag said:

JFABNRGR said:

No Spin Ag said:

JFABNRGR said:

No Spin Ag said:

techno-ag said:

No Spin Ag said:

nortex97 said:

I am unclear what grants are still flowing. I've been curious about that as well.


I hope they're ones that go to food for starving people. Not just for the people in need but for the farmers here that are relying on the contracts through USAID for their livelihoods as well.
As we've seen, often the food money goes to the local dictator who then pockets it. Dems get to proudly proclaim they're feeding the poor while communist dictators get richer.


Your thoughts on the farmers who are paid by USAID for the food that goes to those countries? They're being affected (losing out) as well.
Can you provide a link to how much food USAID actually provided?

The only one I saw was clintons daughter who provided about 11,000 meals at a cost of $1800 each.

Also isn't the UN supposed to be doing that along with probably hundreds of other non-profits?


I'm thinking of our farmers who make their living by providing the food.
Again do you have a link to how much food our farmers were providing due to USAID contracts?


No, but if there's no link, yet farmers on social media are complaining, I take it we should just ignore them.

The reality it, the food came from our farmers, so when things get cut, the farmers are going to lose out, period.

Regardless of the amount, are you fine with them just being SOL?
I am for accountability and what's best for America. That said, trust but verify, can you even post the social media links of the farmers complaining? We haven't seen a single case in which usaid was ever providing any food with the exception of clintons $1800 happy meals.


Like I said, the food we send comes from American farmers. It's not hard to connect that dot of them losing out from cuts to USAID.
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samurai_science said:

No Spin Ag said:

JFABNRGR said:

No Spin Ag said:

JFABNRGR said:

No Spin Ag said:

techno-ag said:

No Spin Ag said:

nortex97 said:

I am unclear what grants are still flowing. I've been curious about that as well.


I hope they're ones that go to food for starving people. Not just for the people in need but for the farmers here that are relying on the contracts through USAID for their livelihoods as well.
As we've seen, often the food money goes to the local dictator who then pockets it. Dems get to proudly proclaim they're feeding the poor while communist dictators get richer.


Your thoughts on the farmers who are paid by USAID for the food that goes to those countries? They're being affected (losing out) as well.
Can you provide a link to how much food USAID actually provided?

The only one I saw was clintons daughter who provided about 11,000 meals at a cost of $1800 each.

Also isn't the UN supposed to be doing that along with probably hundreds of other non-profits?


I'm thinking of our farmers who make their living by providing the food.
Again do you have a link to how much food our farmers were providing due to USAID contracts?


No, but if there's no link, yet farmers on social media are complaining, I take it we should just ignore them.

The reality it, the food came from our farmers, so when things get cut, the farmers are going to lose out, period.

Regardless of the amount, are you fine with them just being SOL?


Yes


Love the honesty. Respect.
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I can't even accept that we were sending food through USAID. I can accept that our government has been lying to us. I can accept that they were money laundering.
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Ok, here's your chance.
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No Spin Ag said:

JFABNRGR said:

No Spin Ag said:

JFABNRGR said:

No Spin Ag said:

JFABNRGR said:

No Spin Ag said:

techno-ag said:

No Spin Ag said:

nortex97 said:

I am unclear what grants are still flowing. I've been curious about that as well.


I hope they're ones that go to food for starving people. Not just for the people in need but for the farmers here that are relying on the contracts through USAID for their livelihoods as well.
As we've seen, often the food money goes to the local dictator who then pockets it. Dems get to proudly proclaim they're feeding the poor while communist dictators get richer.


Your thoughts on the farmers who are paid by USAID for the food that goes to those countries? They're being affected (losing out) as well.
Can you provide a link to how much food USAID actually provided?

The only one I saw was clintons daughter who provided about 11,000 meals at a cost of $1800 each.

Also isn't the UN supposed to be doing that along with probably hundreds of other non-profits?


I'm thinking of our farmers who make their living by providing the food.
Again do you have a link to how much food our farmers were providing due to USAID contracts?


No, but if there's no link, yet farmers on social media are complaining, I take it we should just ignore them.

The reality it, the food came from our farmers, so when things get cut, the farmers are going to lose out, period.

Regardless of the amount, are you fine with them just being SOL?
I am for accountability and what's best for America. That said, trust but verify, can you even post the social media links of the farmers complaining? We haven't seen a single case in which usaid was ever providing any food with the exception of clintons $1800 happy meals.


Like I said, the food we send comes from American farmers. It's not hard to connect that dot of them losing out from cuts to USAID.
Then connect the dots. If its that easy. My guess is you have no clue how a farmer sells his crops.
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BQ_90 said:

No Spin Ag said:

JFABNRGR said:

No Spin Ag said:

JFABNRGR said:

No Spin Ag said:

JFABNRGR said:

No Spin Ag said:

techno-ag said:

No Spin Ag said:

nortex97 said:

I am unclear what grants are still flowing. I've been curious about that as well.


I hope they're ones that go to food for starving people. Not just for the people in need but for the farmers here that are relying on the contracts through USAID for their livelihoods as well.
As we've seen, often the food money goes to the local dictator who then pockets it. Dems get to proudly proclaim they're feeding the poor while communist dictators get richer.


Your thoughts on the farmers who are paid by USAID for the food that goes to those countries? They're being affected (losing out) as well.
Can you provide a link to how much food USAID actually provided?

The only one I saw was clintons daughter who provided about 11,000 meals at a cost of $1800 each.

Also isn't the UN supposed to be doing that along with probably hundreds of other non-profits?


I'm thinking of our farmers who make their living by providing the food.
Again do you have a link to how much food our farmers were providing due to USAID contracts?


No, but if there's no link, yet farmers on social media are complaining, I take it we should just ignore them.

The reality it, the food came from our farmers, so when things get cut, the farmers are going to lose out, period.

Regardless of the amount, are you fine with them just being SOL?
I am for accountability and what's best for America. That said, trust but verify, can you even post the social media links of the farmers complaining? We haven't seen a single case in which usaid was ever providing any food with the exception of clintons $1800 happy meals.


Like I said, the food we send comes from American farmers. It's not hard to connect that dot of them losing out from cuts to USAID.
Then connect the dots. If its that easy. My guess is you have no clue how a farmer sells his crops.


From what they said what they produce was for USAID by contract. Then again, maybe farmers can be liars and even part of the grift that's in USAID.
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maybe they can sell their crops, oh I don't know, here in the US? Given the high prices we are paying for groceries these days it seems like we could use a little help on the supply side of the supply/demand curve.

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No Spin Ag said:

BQ_90 said:

No Spin Ag said:

JFABNRGR said:

No Spin Ag said:

JFABNRGR said:

No Spin Ag said:

JFABNRGR said:

No Spin Ag said:

techno-ag said:

No Spin Ag said:

nortex97 said:

I am unclear what grants are still flowing. I've been curious about that as well.


I hope they're ones that go to food for starving people. Not just for the people in need but for the farmers here that are relying on the contracts through USAID for their livelihoods as well.
As we've seen, often the food money goes to the local dictator who then pockets it. Dems get to proudly proclaim they're feeding the poor while communist dictators get richer.


Your thoughts on the farmers who are paid by USAID for the food that goes to those countries? They're being affected (losing out) as well.
Can you provide a link to how much food USAID actually provided?

The only one I saw was clintons daughter who provided about 11,000 meals at a cost of $1800 each.

Also isn't the UN supposed to be doing that along with probably hundreds of other non-profits?


I'm thinking of our farmers who make their living by providing the food.
Again do you have a link to how much food our farmers were providing due to USAID contracts?


No, but if there's no link, yet farmers on social media are complaining, I take it we should just ignore them.

The reality it, the food came from our farmers, so when things get cut, the farmers are going to lose out, period.

Regardless of the amount, are you fine with them just being SOL?
I am for accountability and what's best for America. That said, trust but verify, can you even post the social media links of the farmers complaining? We haven't seen a single case in which usaid was ever providing any food with the exception of clintons $1800 happy meals.


Like I said, the food we send comes from American farmers. It's not hard to connect that dot of them losing out from cuts to USAID.
Then connect the dots. If its that easy. My guess is you have no clue how a farmer sells his crops.


From what they said what they produce was for USAID by contract. Then again, maybe farmers can be liars and even part of the grift that's in USAID.
https://www.npr.org/2025/02/19/1232435535/how-usaid-cuts-hurt-american-farmers

i found this on NPR. Its a bunch of what ifs or maybes. Their view is this aid somehow buys the US peace and stability around the world. Which is questionable at best.

they said this revenue is less than 1% of total farm sales.

Oh and they do talk about USAID food that was misused and sold or sent to terrorist.

In the story they also talk that farmers really don't sell directly to USAID, they sell at local grain elevator then USAID buys from companies like cargill. And who knows how much is syphoned off in admin fees.

also said congress is already working to replace this food aid under other agency.

I'm still not sure how this is some disaster to the avg farmer out there
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rednecked said:

maybe they can sell their crops, oh I don't know, here in the US? Given the high prices we are paying for groceries these days it seems like we could use a little help on the supply side of the supply/demand curve.


they are selling their crops in the US, USAID was buying from companies that buy from the grain elevators who bought it from the farmers
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BQ_90 said:

rednecked said:

maybe they can sell their crops, oh I don't know, here in the US? Given the high prices we are paying for groceries these days it seems like we could use a little help on the supply side of the supply/demand curve.


they are selling their crops in the US, USAID was buying from companies that buy from the grain elevators who bought it from the farmers
so the farmers got paid? that seems to be his issue.
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rednecked said:

BQ_90 said:

rednecked said:

maybe they can sell their crops, oh I don't know, here in the US? Given the high prices we are paying for groceries these days it seems like we could use a little help on the supply side of the supply/demand curve.


they are selling their crops in the US, USAID was buying from companies that buy from the grain elevators who bought it from the farmers
so the farmers got paid? that seems to be his issue.

the farmers got paid the market price for their commodity. They have no clue if that crop ends up in corn flakes in your local HEB, animal feed in China, or feeding Hamas from bag from USAID
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No Spin Ag said:

samurai_science said:

No Spin Ag said:

JFABNRGR said:

No Spin Ag said:

JFABNRGR said:

No Spin Ag said:

techno-ag said:

No Spin Ag said:

nortex97 said:

I am unclear what grants are still flowing. I've been curious about that as well.


I hope they're ones that go to food for starving people. Not just for the people in need but for the farmers here that are relying on the contracts through USAID for their livelihoods as well.
As we've seen, often the food money goes to the local dictator who then pockets it. Dems get to proudly proclaim they're feeding the poor while communist dictators get richer.


Your thoughts on the farmers who are paid by USAID for the food that goes to those countries? They're being affected (losing out) as well.
Can you provide a link to how much food USAID actually provided?

The only one I saw was clintons daughter who provided about 11,000 meals at a cost of $1800 each.

Also isn't the UN supposed to be doing that along with probably hundreds of other non-profits?


I'm thinking of our farmers who make their living by providing the food.
Again do you have a link to how much food our farmers were providing due to USAID contracts?


No, but if there's no link, yet farmers on social media are complaining, I take it we should just ignore them.

The reality it, the food came from our farmers, so when things get cut, the farmers are going to lose out, period.

Regardless of the amount, are you fine with them just being SOL?


People on social media complaining could be bots or anything else how about some actual data?


You do accept the fact that the food we send through USAID comes from American farmers, right?


I don't accept the fact that these crooks sent any substantial amount of food to anyone.
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agreed and in complete dichotomy to No spin ags contention. the farmer's aren't in any way harmed here. Maybe ConAgra, maybe not. they can sell it on the US market and not to USAID/hamas terrorists. maybe the price of corn flakes comes down a bit and it helps people in the US a little bit.
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Science Denier said:

No Spin Ag said:

samurai_science said:

No Spin Ag said:

JFABNRGR said:

No Spin Ag said:

JFABNRGR said:

No Spin Ag said:

techno-ag said:

No Spin Ag said:

nortex97 said:

I am unclear what grants are still flowing. I've been curious about that as well.


I hope they're ones that go to food for starving people. Not just for the people in need but for the farmers here that are relying on the contracts through USAID for their livelihoods as well.
As we've seen, often the food money goes to the local dictator who then pockets it. Dems get to proudly proclaim they're feeding the poor while communist dictators get richer.


Your thoughts on the farmers who are paid by USAID for the food that goes to those countries? They're being affected (losing out) as well.
Can you provide a link to how much food USAID actually provided?

The only one I saw was clintons daughter who provided about 11,000 meals at a cost of $1800 each.

Also isn't the UN supposed to be doing that along with probably hundreds of other non-profits?


I'm thinking of our farmers who make their living by providing the food.
Again do you have a link to how much food our farmers were providing due to USAID contracts?


No, but if there's no link, yet farmers on social media are complaining, I take it we should just ignore them.

The reality it, the food came from our farmers, so when things get cut, the farmers are going to lose out, period.

Regardless of the amount, are you fine with them just being SOL?


People on social media complaining could be bots or anything else how about some actual data?


You do accept the fact that the food we send through USAID comes from American farmers, right?


I don't accept the fact that these crooks sent any substantial amount of food to anyone.
i'm sure some food made it, now how much did it cost to buy, ship, skim off the top. My guess is we paid 10x time more than need or market rate. Hell probable 100X
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BQ_90 said:

Science Denier said:

No Spin Ag said:

samurai_science said:

No Spin Ag said:

JFABNRGR said:

No Spin Ag said:

JFABNRGR said:

No Spin Ag said:

techno-ag said:

No Spin Ag said:

nortex97 said:

I am unclear what grants are still flowing. I've been curious about that as well.


I hope they're ones that go to food for starving people. Not just for the people in need but for the farmers here that are relying on the contracts through USAID for their livelihoods as well.
As we've seen, often the food money goes to the local dictator who then pockets it. Dems get to proudly proclaim they're feeding the poor while communist dictators get richer.


Your thoughts on the farmers who are paid by USAID for the food that goes to those countries? They're being affected (losing out) as well.
Can you provide a link to how much food USAID actually provided?

The only one I saw was clintons daughter who provided about 11,000 meals at a cost of $1800 each.

Also isn't the UN supposed to be doing that along with probably hundreds of other non-profits?


I'm thinking of our farmers who make their living by providing the food.
Again do you have a link to how much food our farmers were providing due to USAID contracts?


No, but if there's no link, yet farmers on social media are complaining, I take it we should just ignore them.

The reality it, the food came from our farmers, so when things get cut, the farmers are going to lose out, period.

Regardless of the amount, are you fine with them just being SOL?


People on social media complaining could be bots or anything else how about some actual data?


You do accept the fact that the food we send through USAID comes from American farmers, right?


I don't accept the fact that these crooks sent any substantial amount of food to anyone.
i'm sure some food made it, now how much did it cost to buy, ship, skim off the top. My guess is we paid 10x time more than need or market rate. Hell probable 100X
Some? Maybe.

Substantial amount? No ****ing way.
techno-ag
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Trump will fix it.
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No Spin Ag said:

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nortex97 said:

I am unclear what grants are still flowing. I've been curious about that as well.


I hope they're ones that go to food for starving people. Not just for the people in need but for the farmers here that are relying on the contracts through USAID for their livelihoods as well.
As we've seen, often the food money goes to the local dictator who then pockets it. Dems get to proudly proclaim they're feeding the poor while communist dictators get richer.


Your thoughts on the farmers who are paid by USAID for the food that goes to those countries? They're being affected (losing out) as well.
Can you provide a link to how much food USAID actually provided?

The only one I saw was clintons daughter who provided about 11,000 meals at a cost of $1800 each.

Also isn't the UN supposed to be doing that along with probably hundreds of other non-profits?


I'm thinking of our farmers who make their living by providing the food.
Again do you have a link to how much food our farmers were providing due to USAID contracts?


No, but if there's no link, yet farmers on social media are complaining, I take it we should just ignore them.

The reality it, the food came from our farmers, so when things get cut, the farmers are going to lose out, period.

Regardless of the amount, are you fine with them just being SOL?


People on social media complaining could be bots or anything else how about some actual data?


You do accept the fact that the food we send through USAID comes from American farmers, right?
I don't accept that USAID is providing food for anybody without evidence, much less where they bought it. Based on what we are finding out so far, I fully expect to read that the food they were buying came from China or Russia.
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If USAID was really feeding all these people, where are the foreign govts screaming about where's the beef?
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They are just sending them bags of wheat (sometimes flour).
Can you imagine the outrage if you could only get a bag of wheat at the store? People would starve...
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Stat Monitor Repairman said:


That's amazing.

'I think it's really bad to fire employees for poor performance, when we've only gotten good feedback'.


Well yeah, when you're handing out millions and billions of dollars to people stealing our money, I'm sure you got good feedback from them.

"As long as my buddy keeps telling me I'm doing great, you can't fire me for sucking at my job"



Maybe you're getting feedback from the wrong people?

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He gone we should have flagged for trolling way back.
“You can resolve to live your life with integrity. Let your credo be this: Let the lie come into the world, let it even triumph. But not through me.”
- Alexander Solzhenitsyn
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No Spin Ag said:

BQ_90 said:

No Spin Ag said:

JFABNRGR said:

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No Spin Ag said:

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techno-ag said:

No Spin Ag said:

nortex97 said:

I am unclear what grants are still flowing. I've been curious about that as well.


I hope they're ones that go to food for starving people. Not just for the people in need but for the farmers here that are relying on the contracts through USAID for their livelihoods as well.
As we've seen, often the food money goes to the local dictator who then pockets it. Dems get to proudly proclaim they're feeding the poor while communist dictators get richer.


Your thoughts on the farmers who are paid by USAID for the food that goes to those countries? They're being affected (losing out) as well.
Can you provide a link to how much food USAID actually provided?

The only one I saw was clintons daughter who provided about 11,000 meals at a cost of $1800 each.

Also isn't the UN supposed to be doing that along with probably hundreds of other non-profits?


I'm thinking of our farmers who make their living by providing the food.
Again do you have a link to how much food our farmers were providing due to USAID contracts?


No, but if there's no link, yet farmers on social media are complaining, I take it we should just ignore them.

The reality it, the food came from our farmers, so when things get cut, the farmers are going to lose out, period.

Regardless of the amount, are you fine with them just being SOL?
I am for accountability and what's best for America. That said, trust but verify, can you even post the social media links of the farmers complaining? We haven't seen a single case in which usaid was ever providing any food with the exception of clintons $1800 happy meals.


Like I said, the food we send comes from American farmers. It's not hard to connect that dot of them losing out from cuts to USAID.
Then connect the dots. If its that easy. My guess is you have no clue how a farmer sells his crops.


From what they said what they produce was for USAID by contract. Then again, maybe farmers can be liars and even part of the grift that's in USAID.


Yes. Farmers can be liars. I farm and these amount to government price supports and they don't sustain a market. The government does the same with ethanol and I think those should be eliminated also.

I used to do some side consulting for an old farmer in his 80's who was a very conservative guy and we frequently talked about politics. When it was Trump vs. Clinton he asked me who I was voting for, which kind of surprised me because I thought it was obvious. I said Trump and asked him the same. He said, "I always vote for my self interest, democrats." He said, "Democrats always funnel the most money to farmers." I quit working for him at the end of the season.

There are certainly a lot of farmers that will happily take tax payer money.
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USAID employs hard workers. They were shoveling money out the door faster than taxpayers could earn it.
 
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