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lol there is literally video of them catching vandals attacking the pool but you Biden Bros can't even accept that.

Told my wife what kind of a fool vandalizes a pool because of the president and yet here some of you are on this thread with late stage TDS.


Provide a link of the literal video of a guy cutting a 350 foot gash down the pool. I'll change my mind if I see it
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Seriously if this was Biden saying BS like this, this board would be melting down wanting him out for dementia.

Impossible, he rarely spoke to the media and when he did it was all scripted Q&A with pictures of the reporter, phonetic spelling of their name, the question they would ask and the answer he would read (and certainly didn't write himself).

At least Trump talks to the openly hostile press and inevitably it gets him into trouble with his boisterous personality.

If you're telling me you want 4 more years of a Democrat at POTUS with another 20+ million illegals in this country and getting taxed to death to subsidize them you are truly lost.

Trump has plenty of faults but I'll take an exaggerating narcissist over anything the lunatic left supports.
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Trump has plenty of faults but I'll take an exaggerating narcissist that gets stuff done over anything the lunatic left supports.

So much this!!!
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A few quick points...

If they are doing an investigation/arrests they may not display the evidence they have at this time. Any hidden cameras they may have of the crimes would be exposed.

The people demanding evidence and placing the proof of evidence on Trump need to realize... this is not a court room. He doesn't need to prove crap to you. Showing you the evidence wouldn't matter anyways... this is the same tds infected morons that denied the Trump assassination attempt(s) and also think the perps are Republicans.

Final point... the tds posts on this thread are ridiculous. You people are really taking victory laps on a beautification project failing. No matter the cause of the failure, the fact that your big win for the week/month/term is that the reflection pool will still be a **** pile for July 4th is ridiculous. Why do you need everything to be ugly?
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91_Aggie said:

FTAG 2000 said:

lol there is literally video of them catching vandals attacking the pool but you Biden Bros can't even accept that.

Told my wife what kind of a fool vandalizes a pool because of the president and yet here some of you are on this thread with late stage TDS.


Provide a link of the literal video of a guy cutting a 350 foot gash down the pool. I'll change my mind if I see it
no you won't - you will ask for something else - your tds prevents you accepting anything Trump related. TDS has all of you lined up with criminals and terrorists.
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Slwdsm said:

A few quick points...

If they are doing an investigation/arrests they may not display the evidence they have at this time. Any hidden cameras they may have of the crimes would be exposed.

The people demanding evidence and placing the proof of evidence on Trump need to realize... this is not a court room. He doesn't need to prove crap to you. Showing you the evidence wouldn't matter anyways... this is the same tds infected morons that denied the Trump assassination attempt(s) and also think the perps are Republicans.

Final point... the tds posts on this thread are ridiculous. You people are really taking victory laps on a beautification project failing. No matter the cause of the failure, the fact that your big win for the week/month/term is that the reflection pool will still be a **** pile for July 4th is ridiculous. Why do you need everything to be ugly?


Someone said there was a literal video of people being arrested while vandalizing it. Trump has never shied away from showing when he is right. Why not now? If there was video he would be showing it to show how crazy the left is.
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91_Aggie said:

Slwdsm said:

A few quick points...

If they are doing an investigation/arrests they may not display the evidence they have at this time. Any hidden cameras they may have of the crimes would be exposed.

The people demanding evidence and placing the proof of evidence on Trump need to realize... this is not a court room. He doesn't need to prove crap to you. Showing you the evidence wouldn't matter anyways... this is the same tds infected morons that denied the Trump assassination attempt(s) and also think the perps are Republicans.

Final point... the tds posts on this thread are ridiculous. You people are really taking victory laps on a beautification project failing. No matter the cause of the failure, the fact that your big win for the week/month/term is that the reflection pool will still be a **** pile for July 4th is ridiculous. Why do you need everything to be ugly?


Someone said there was a literal video of people being arrested while vandalizing it. Trump has never shied away from showing when he is right. Why not now? If there was video he would be showing it to show how crazy the left is.

Weak.
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Waterfowl are now being found dead. What an abject failure and waste of money. Sad.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2026/06/22/dead-duck-was-seen-reflecting-pool-then-two-more-were-found-nearby/

"When the Lincoln Memorial's Reflecting Pool was replenished this month after a $14 million-plus renovation, ducks quickly took to the water. Tourists delighted at the sight of ducklings paddling through the pool.But then, over the weekend: a disturbing discovery.

.A duck carcass was photographed floating in the algae-filled water, days after the "American Flag Blue" paint began peeling off the bottom of the pool.Then, two other dead ducks were found in a pond at Constitution Gardens on the National Mall roughly 250 feet from the Reflecting Pool. City Wildlife, one of the lead animal rescue and rehabilitation groups in the area, said a staffer collected their bodies Sunday and brought them to the organization's facility."
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GMaster0 said:

Waterfowl are now being found dead. What an abject failure and waste of money. Sad.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2026/06/22/dead-duck-was-seen-reflecting-pool-then-two-more-were-found-nearby/

"When the Lincoln Memorial's Reflecting Pool was replenished this month after a $14 million-plus renovation, ducks quickly took to the water. Tourists delighted at the sight of ducklings paddling through the pool.But then, over the weekend: a disturbing discovery.

.A duck carcass was photographed floating in the algae-filled water, days after the "American Flag Blue" paint began peeling off the bottom of the pool.Then, two other dead ducks were found in a pond at Constitution Gardens on the National Mall roughly 250 feet from the Reflecting Pool. City Wildlife, one of the lead animal rescue and rehabilitation groups in the area, said a staffer collected their bodies Sunday and brought them to the organization's facility."


What an idiotic take!
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FTAG 2000 said:

lol there is literally video of them catching vandals attacking the pool but you Biden Bros can't even accept that.

Told my wife what kind of a fool vandalizes a pool because of the president and yet here some of you are on this thread with late stage TDS.


It's actually fascinating to watch the cult members buy into every lie that comes out of Trump's mouth. Do you know its bs deep down or do you actually believe you've seen a video of Antifa destroying the pool?
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Equinox said:

91_Aggie said:

Slwdsm said:

A few quick points...

If they are doing an investigation/arrests they may not display the evidence they have at this time. Any hidden cameras they may have of the crimes would be exposed.

The people demanding evidence and placing the proof of evidence on Trump need to realize... this is not a court room. He doesn't need to prove crap to you. Showing you the evidence wouldn't matter anyways... this is the same tds infected morons that denied the Trump assassination attempt(s) and also think the perps are Republicans.

Final point... the tds posts on this thread are ridiculous. You people are really taking victory laps on a beautification project failing. No matter the cause of the failure, the fact that your big win for the week/month/term is that the reflection pool will still be a **** pile for July 4th is ridiculous. Why do you need everything to be ugly?


Someone said there was a literal video of people being arrested while vandalizing it. Trump has never shied away from showing when he is right. Why not now? If there was video he would be showing it to show how crazy the left is.

Weak.


Is it though?
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Some history, and current observations.



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Let's talk reflecting pool. Warren G. Harding built it on swampland and the structure beneath it would have been fine - if it had been built on stable ground. The whole thing started sinking slowly.

Presidents all the way up through Carter kept trying to prop it up with little cement pours, and regularly draining and cleaning it. Algae was a problem even then because there was no real circulation system. No pumps. No filters.

Reagan added some more concrete, realizing the entire pool was now 12 or 13 inches lower than it should be. It had sunk over a foot and pulled loose from its structure.

Clinton publicly acknowledged that the entire pool needed demolished and rebuilt, and that it would take hundreds of millions of dollars to do it right.

The Bushes just kept trying to plug leaks and clean it. Every time they had to drain and scrub the thing, it cost around $100,000 to do so. George W. Bush actually had plans drawn up to rebuild it.

Obama decided to revise and execute the Bush renovation, which was needed, but it was flawed, and he spent tens of millions of dollars on it. He raised the pool up with a timber under-structure so the water ended up being even shallower, which means that's the point at which the water started getting warmer. He also turned off the chlorinated city water supply into the pool and began pumping water in from the tidal basin - that's the somewhat stagnant water that comes in from the Potomac River and surrounds the Jefferson Memorial. There was algae before, but with those changes came even more algae. Obama's reasoning was that the basin water would be cheaper instead of using the city water supply. He had the pool tiles removed from the bottom and another layer gray cement put in place along with gray-tinted reflective paint, which gradually faded away.

By the time Trump's first term came around, the cleaning had to be done every three or four months, some of the Obama structural repairs were failing, and the leaks were rampant again.

By the time Biden got into office, Obama's reflecting pool fixes were cracked and the pool was leaking hundreds of thousands (probably millions) of gallons of water. Biden opted to clean the pool, but performed little maintenance, and did no substantial refurbishment.

Trump's fix was to try something that the other presidents hadn't. Whereas Obama had used a gray reflective paint and cement, Trump tried a combination sealant liner - it isn't paint. Those sealants are similarly light-reflective to what Obama used. Trump switched up to blue from the dark gray. He added nanobubblers.

When we walked around it the other day, there was only a small patch on the middle of the left side that may have been coming up. It was too windy and stormy to see why. It was not as if the sealant was coming up all over the pool and floating to the top because it wasn't. We did see the algae cleaning going on and the crews, you could tell, were tired of being harassed for doing their jobs.

Vandals have damaged the grass, they've cut into the liner in other places and the knife lines are clear in the videos. We did see the National Guard soldiers coming in. We also saw them placed around the America 250 construction area and in between the museums. Five vandals have been arrested since we walked through. It's unbelievable to me that they want to destroy something we could all enjoy out of hatred for a president whose policies they don't even understand. And the mainstream media is reprehensible. They aren't reporting. They're spinning propaganda as usual.

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If you have a 6.7M gallon pool with zero circulation, I have no idea how you are supposed to keep it from growing algae. Even with high chlorination it will still grow when the temperature gets warm.
i'm sorry i dont laugh at the right times.
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Libs gonna start poisoning ducks now!
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It's too late, they have started.
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BadMoonRisin said:

If you have a 6.7M gallon pool with zero circulation, I have no idea how you are supposed to keep it from growing algae. Even with high chlorination it will still grow when the temperature gets warm.


Agreed. And even if they kill the existing algae the dead algae will have no place to go without circulation and they water will be grey and cloudy instead of green. The only permanent answer to me is some kind of pump system, no clue how expensive that would be though.
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That's what the nanbubbler/ozone system is for.
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Just go back to river water and dye it blue. Whole thing is a dumb money pit.
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BadMoonRisin said:

If you have a 6.7M gallon pool with zero circulation, I have no idea how you are supposed to keep it from growing algae. Even with high chlorination it will still grow when the temperature gets warm.

Having witnessed the problems at the Esplanade fountain in Fair Park, I agree with this statement. Circulation and treatment is required. I cannot vouch if nanobubbles will be effective with circulation.
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Donald Trump hates ducks!
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I can see not wanting if yo be a garbage filled cesspit but it also isn't meant to be a swimming pool either. That would be too difficult to maintain. It is basically a giant fishpond. That's probably the easiest way to maintain it.
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Not sure why they aren't just filtering Potomac river water slightly and then changing it out on a constant basis.
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AxelFoley85 said:

Just go back to river water and dye it blue. Whole thing is a dumb money pit.


For comparison(per Grok):
$16 million / $7 trillion 0.00023% (about 2.3 millionths of the budget).
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They either need to completely redo it or make it a lawn.
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redcrayon said:

They either need to completely redo it or make it a lawn.

America-hating saboteurs will have an even easier time destroying a lawn

CNN will report live from bare patches of sod so libs everywhere can celebrate ugliness as some sort of victory because it serves as evidence to their confirmation bias that the POTUS does nothing right and nothing well.
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Excellent article and thanks for sharing.
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Thanks for posting, but facts and logic have no place here with TDS demanding that we all condemn the orange man for trying to spiff up the place a bit before a big national celebration.
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J. Walter Weatherman said:

BadMoonRisin said:

If you have a 6.7M gallon pool with zero circulation, I have no idea how you are supposed to keep it from growing algae. Even with high chlorination it will still grow when the temperature gets warm.


Agreed. And even if they kill the existing algae the dead algae will have no place to go without circulation and they water will be grey and cloudy instead of green. The only permanent answer to me is some kind of pump system, no clue how expensive that would be though.

Circulation systems were added under Obama in addition to pumping in and filtering Potomac sewage water.

The nanabubblers will provide some circulation, but it remains a design flaw of having such a large shallow pool.

It is incorrect to assume at this point the nanabubblers will not permanently address the algae.
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Omperlodge said:

Not sure why they aren't just filtering Potomac river water slightly and then changing it out on a constant basis.

The pumps clogged and the pond had to be drained every 3 or 4 months and cleaned.

The dumb green solution by Obama wasted $10s of millions on ******ed ideas. Hard pass on doing the same thing and expecting a different result.
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txags92 said:

Thanks for posting, but facts and logic have no place here with TDS demanding that we all condemn the orange man for trying to spiff up the place a bit before a big national celebration.

Imagine if the 3 time olympic canoeist had used his time paddle out to the algae cleaners and offered them water or to help.

Instead, TDS required that he pull up liner further damaging it and then try and be a martyr for the Hate America Party.

They are on the side of Whoopi ****ing Goldberg (not a Jew) these days… all to hate on America because Trump lives America.

Its truly deranged behavior.
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they should have awarded a no-bid contract to the fine folks of Schlitterbahn. Turn it into a Potomac-driven water park. Have they ever worked on a Trump-owned golf course or property?
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I thought they sold out after decapitating the kid? Not sure Schlitterbagn has much reputation to quality and safety after that.

Also, spring fed streams > sewage filled brackish tidal basin water.
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It should be demo'ed and redesigned. Everyone has been putting bandages on a gaping wound for the past 100 years.
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HTownAg98 said:

It should be demo'ed and redesigned. Everyone has been putting bandages on a gaping wound for the past 100 years.

Or we could give it more than a couple of weeks to see if this current solution fixes it.
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Arresting people curious about the problems as being the cause of the problems is just wrong.
 
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