USMNT 2021 Thread

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fig96
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KCup17 said:

Oh very true. Hadn't considered that. With Nike we get all the additional merchandise including bags, apparel, shoes and a long list of other things. Probably a lot of other training materials too.
You're missing probably the most important one: advertising and exposure.
akm91
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Nike pays USSF for exposure of the Nike brand. The contract was $120M way back '97. USMNT is getting minor if any additional exposure signing with Nike.
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fig96
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I would disagree just from the general exposure of the brand, particularly vs what US Soccer would get with a smaller brand with no real presence.

The Nike website alone has to be millions of impressions plus their in store displays, etc.
akm91
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We'll just disagree on this. Nike gets much much more from the sponsorship than USMNT does, i.e. exposure on TV and sales in the stadium.

I doubt USMNT gets that much digital benefit from Nike (avg 115M visits per month) and I would bet most of the traffic to nike.com are going there for Nike specific products and not national team products.

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fig96
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Kind of my point, they aren't going there for USMNT content but they see it highlighted.
akm91
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I doubt they even see it. It's way below the fold on nike.com home page. A significant % of web traffic to retail sites don't even see the home page at all.

Exposure Nike gets from the televised matches is worth much much more than whatever limited exposure USMNT gets from nike.com
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fig96
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I see it differently but not a big deal. Either way it needs to be better.
wangus12
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FWIW I believe the Nike contract is up after 2022. They signed a 9 year extension in 2013
Bryan98
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wangus12 said:

FWIW I believe the Nike contract is up after 2022. They signed a 9 year extension in 2013


A - di - das! A - di - das!
OregonAggie
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heddleston said:

Hummel has been amazing the past few years. They'd go as wild (94 kits) or as classic (waldos, the mid/late 90s kits) as we would want.


I've been a fan of Hummel since I was a kid. I forgot which Dallas based soccer club used them but their jerseys were always cool. Might have been Dallas Comets?

I root for Denmark because of their Hummel jerseys hahaha
KCup17
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Thats true. I think its hard for me to envision the US going to a brand other than Adidas or Nike. The brand platform is just too big. While it could be really beneficial for a smaller brand to support the US it may not be the best mutually beneficial relationship.
Aston94
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So what if we just started a "USMNT Jersey Talk" thread and had one for you guys to discuss the difference of the Nike manufacturing facility in Vietnam v. the Under Armour manufacturing facility in Vietnam and then we left this thread to actual discussion of players?

How would that be received?
akm91
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Dike scored twice for Orlando on his first start back. Hard to imagine he's not starting the WCQ's in September if he keeps this up.

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fig96
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I don't see how he's not, we don't really have another target type striker in the pool. I love players like Sargent but he's not the traditional #9 that I think this system needs.
akm91
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If Sargent can get some confidence and put the ball into the back of the net, then that would really help cement his claim as the starter. His work rate, defense and link up play is underrated due to glaring lack of scoring.

But, it would be great to trot Dike out against Mexico and have him bang against their backline. I don't think Mexico does well against big physical target strikers.
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KCup17
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Poorly.
fig96
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I'd love to see them both in there together in a 4-4-2. That may not lend itself well to the rest of how Berhalter wants to play, but I feel like the two of them would play really well off each other.
akm91
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Actually, maybe even a 3-5-2 would work well. I think the hard part is installing a new wrinkle at the international level is tough, especially with the condensed schedules they're going to face.
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fig96 said:

I'd love to see them both in there together in a 4-4-2. That may not lend itself well to the rest of how Berhalter wants to play, but I feel like the two of them would play really well off each other.


I think we have too much wing/midfield talent to play a 4-4-2. I would love for Sargent and Dike to develop but don't see us in a 4-4-2 consistently. Think about who we would have to leave out to make that work.
fig96
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Aston94 said:

fig96 said:

I'd love to see them both in there together in a 4-4-2. That may not lend itself well to the rest of how Berhalter wants to play, but I feel like the two of them would play really well off each other.
I think we have too much wing/midfield talent to play a 4-4-2. I would love for Sargent and Dike to develop but don't see us in a 4-4-2 consistently. Think about who we would have to leave out to make that work.
Totally agree, just spitballing as I like Sargent a lot and I'm not sure how he fits in this lineup.

Definitely more important to have Pulisic, Reyna, McKennie,Adams, etc. in there.
KCup17
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18 yr old Caden Clark signs with RB Leipzig. Will leave Red Bulls at end of 2021 and join Jesse Marsch in Germany
fig96
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MLS is dropping a USMNT inspired throwback for all (US) teams:

B$Weigem
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fig96 said:

MLS is dropping a USMNT inspired throwback for all (US) teams:


That should be the new away kits for USMNT...
Bryan98
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I thought that kit was ugly when it WAS a US kit in the 90s. People call it the Wavy Bacon jersey.
B$Weigem
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Bryan98 said:

I thought that kit was ugly when it WAS a US kit in the 90s. People call it the Wavy Bacon jersey.
What's more American than Bacon on a jersey though?
KCup17
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Freedom.
jeffk
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So is every team getting the identical jersey with their crest on them?
ChipFTAC01
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Cheese covered bacon?
wangus12
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jeffk said:

So is every team getting the identical jersey with their crest on them?
Looks like its a pre-match jersey rather than an actual game jersey
wangus12
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ChipFTAC01 said:

Cheese covered bacon?
Fried Cheese covered bacon?
Bryan98
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Chef Demas2020 said:

Bryan98 said:

I thought that kit was ugly when it WAS a US kit in the 90s. People call it the Wavy Bacon jersey.
What's more American than Bacon on a jersey though?


Username checks out!
tysker
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Deep fried candied bacon?
Mathguy64
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Deep fried thick cut bacon and gravy.
PatAg
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It seems to have basically instantly sold out on soccer90, at least for FC Dallas
akm91
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tysker said:

Deep fried candied bacon?
Deep fried candied bacon ice cream!
"And liberals, being liberals, will double down on failure." - dedgod
 
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