*** Official 2025 - 2026 Dallas Mavericks Season Thread ***

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The sentiment that was being expressed was that Nash was his only All-NBA teammate and it was stupid to let him walk for nothing and over what ultimately proved to be a bargain of a deal.
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Gotcha! I agree that it was stupid to let Nash walk.
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Josh Howard was on the verge of that level for a few years, would have been interesting to see what happens if 2006 wasnt stolen from us and he had his need for weed under control
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Josh Howard was on the verge of that level for a few years, would have been interesting to see what happens if 2006 wasnt stolen from us and he had his need for weed under control

Heck for old timers like myself Roy Tarpley was the biggest tease of them all. That guy was on track to be the best player in the NBA if it wasnt for his drug and alcohol issues. Played his later years in Europe then died at age 50. So sad.
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Lol time to get high on hopium.
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Silky release
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Zachary Klement said:



****ing barf
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Please no.
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We have to atone for our sins of hiring wife-beater Jason Kidd!
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She's a piece of work but she is a bad ass coach. I would also say no thank you how ever lol.
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The NBA league office is ******ed
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Zachary Klement said:



A serious society wouldnt even need to have a discussion about how completely absurd it is to even consider hiring a woman to be the head coach of a men's professional sports team. It would be the kind of thing that if you even suggested in jest you'd be told to leave the room.

Alas, we are no longer a serious society
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We're in a weird spot where teams have no idea how to value future picks with the flattened lottery odds.

It's easy to say "trade this guy on our team for future assets." But we have no idea how these teams value future picks. It does not matter at all whose pick you own in the future.
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I'm sure there's definitely some truth to this, especially by teams that are kinda middling in the league. On the flip side of this, I actually think this will push some teams to go ahead and try to offload some of their picks for sure things because some of the assets they have could be diminished. The Rockets Brooklyn pick next year is a great example. In this current format that's perhaps the best asset outside of a current top four pick. It loses value imo with the "3-2-1" model.
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I'm sure the Rockets would love to get rid of it, but teams have to treat it like it has a 50% of being pick 9 or worse and 75% chance of being pick 5 or worse.

Normally that would have a 50% chance of top 4 and guaranteed top 6. Brooklyn is a sure fire bottom 2 team in the NBA this season.

It's just going to be such a crapshoot going forward that we have no idea how teams will treat these picks.
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You ain't wrong. The NBA is just a mess.

All of these salary rules and aprons, along with seriously increased salaries, have killed trading for star players or signing them in free agency. So teams have honed in on picks and building through the draft. Now these stupid draft lottery rules are going to kill building through the draft, so doing anything feels impossible. What a mess.

It's why one route or another, this offseason is critical for the Mavs.
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So is the East that bad, or are the Knicks that good? They're on a heater no doubt and look great, but the Cavs are ABYSMAL.
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The Knicks don't have James Harden. Difference in the series.
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Tksymm7 said:

You ain't wrong. The NBA is just a mess.

All of these salary rules and aprons, along with seriously increased salaries, have killed trading for star players or signing them in free agency. So teams have honed in on picks and building through the draft. Now these stupid draft lottery rules are going to kill building through the draft, so doing anything feels impossible. What a mess.

It's why one route or another, this offseason is critical for the Mavs.


https://sports.yahoo.com/nba/article/flop-or-not-does-shai-gilgeous-alexander-really-fall-more-than-his-peers-134022010.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly9ibGVhY2hlcnJlcG9ydC5jb20v&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAL3KhkVRYFxl6HxLJJR3kSLuZo9tj1oiaRrNSNGKGkSzjVx8CBsLhd5uyr1O6yceAFW2We1jxokLor-0F7gtUPAsASbE2ZRGgn4kv_N8w6vsk6mHHedeQfyPlKtSmDC56aXQIARDvhP_xZsF4mhkURl6O7C2dmaOcnp1gEqMmRtI

I think the biggest problem in the NBA is the ridiculous flopping, not tanking. Why doesn't the NBA try to do something about that? SGA falls on 17% of all shot attempts, It makes the whole sport look ridiculous. Either refs should stop calling fouls, or this stuff needs to be handled in after film review with fines and suspensions. If you are out to trick refs then it should cost something.
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jeffdjohnson said:

Tksymm7 said:

You ain't wrong. The NBA is just a mess.

All of these salary rules and aprons, along with seriously increased salaries, have killed trading for star players or signing them in free agency. So teams have honed in on picks and building through the draft. Now these stupid draft lottery rules are going to kill building through the draft, so doing anything feels impossible. What a mess.

It's why one route or another, this offseason is critical for the Mavs.


https://sports.yahoo.com/nba/article/flop-or-not-does-shai-gilgeous-alexander-really-fall-more-than-his-peers-134022010.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly9ibGVhY2hlcnJlcG9ydC5jb20v&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAL3KhkVRYFxl6HxLJJR3kSLuZo9tj1oiaRrNSNGKGkSzjVx8CBsLhd5uyr1O6yceAFW2We1jxokLor-0F7gtUPAsASbE2ZRGgn4kv_N8w6vsk6mHHedeQfyPlKtSmDC56aXQIARDvhP_xZsF4mhkURl6O7C2dmaOcnp1gEqMmRtI

I think the biggest problem in the NBA is the ridiculous flopping, not tanking. Why doesn't the NBA try to do something about that? SGA falls on 17% of all shot attempts, It makes the whole sport look ridiculous. Either refs should stop calling fouls, or this stuff needs to be handled in after film review with fines and suspensions. If you are out to trick refs then it should cost something.


When thinking about those 17% of his shots where he falls down, keep in mind that about half of his shots are wide open shots
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I think they need to stop calling fouls the way fouls are currently given. After the All Star break in 24, there was a noticeable difference in the number of fouls called and the type of foul given. They allowed a bit more contact down low, which I like. You could see Lively became more effective after the change occurred. No idea why they went back to allowing the minor stuff and foul grifting when the 24-25 season started.

I think that's the best way to combat the flopping. Just stop giving the minor contact fouls, especially when drives to the basket are clearly out of control or have an insane forward body lean.

I'd love for there to be in game penalties for flopping, but then we'd probably end up with longer games as refs will go to the monitor to review if a player flopped or was fouled more. It's probably something that would have to be handled post game with a very public fine which basically serves the purpose of shaming the player.
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https://www.natesilver.net/p/prism-2026-nba-draft-rankings

Nate Silver updated his PRISM model with combine info as well as NCAA tournament games. Burries jumped from 7th to 5th. Can't see beyond number 5 without a sub.

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Vessel said:

I think they need to stop calling fouls the way fouls are currently given. After the All Star break in 24, there was a noticeable difference in the number of fouls called and the type of foul given. They allowed a bit more contact down low, which I like. You could see Lively became more effective after the change occurred. No idea why they went back to allowing the minor stuff and foul grifting when the 24-25 season started.

I think that's the best way to combat the flopping. Just stop giving the minor contact fouls, especially when drives to the basket are clearly out of control or have an insane forward body lean.

I'd love for there to be in game penalties for flopping, but then we'd probably end up with longer games as refs will go to the monitor to review if a player flopped or was fouled more. It's probably something that would have to be handled post game with a very public fine which basically serves the purpose of shaming the player.


There was a period of time a couple years ago where offensive players jumping into the defender, was called an offensive foul. That doesn't seem to be the case anymore. And guys like Shai take huge advantage of it.

And I don't know how to combat it, but there seems to be a rash of shooters who are being taught to stick their legs out to try and take advantage of "crowding the landing zone". Shai is culprit #1 but he isn't the only one, where his legs unnaturally go forward so even though a defender is completely vertical, he's landing on the defenders feet and falling down, usually with the foul call. It's exhausting to watch.
Vessel
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At A&M, I lived with guys from Houston and had to watch James Harden foul grift every night and shoot 6 FTs a game just from being fouled on 3 pointers. Harden is one of the most fraudulent players in the history of the game and there's a reason his playoff numbers and record look the way they do.

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especially when drives to the basket are clearly out of control or have an insane forward body lean.

This also describes Harden's time in Houston.
Vessel
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NoahAg said:

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especially when drives to the basket are clearly out of control or have an insane forward body lean.

This also describes Harden's time in Houston.


Yeah, Harden is by far the biggest beneficiary of the SGA discourse.

Harden walked so Shai could run.
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Vessel said:

NoahAg said:

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especially when drives to the basket are clearly out of control or have an insane forward body lean.

This also describes Harden's time in Houston.


Yeah, Harden is by far the biggest beneficiary of the SGA discourse.

Harden walked so Shai could run.


Harden stumbled so Shai could fall?
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Back all clear, allegedly.
Vessel
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It really appears that Shai has seen the fall% discourse online lol.
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NBA officiating is hilariously bad. Makes SEC refs look half competent.
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Guys are pulling their names out of the draft left and right currently.
Vessel
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Yet somehow Koa Peat remains lol
 
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