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7:16a, 9/4/25
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PSA for Rangerette fans- don't argue numbers with Farmer or Mathguy.
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In reply to Farmer1906 • 12:38p, 9/4/25
Farmer1906 said:
Using batting average tells me all I need to know.

Or you could use WAR and see how far behind he is as an overall player. Nobody in baseball ranks Paredes over any of the guys on that list. But like I've said twice, the guy is having a great season and it was a smart trade by Dana. $6 million for that guy vs. $40 million for Bregman. No brainer.
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In reply to Farmer1906 • 12:47p, 9/4/25
Farmer1906 said:
gigem1223 said:



Very

4.0 games over Seattle
5.5 games over Arlington

Fact is, with us throwing Kelly and deGrom, if we don't win at least 2 of 3 we don't deserve to make the playoffs anyway. We've had a decent level of control in 6 of the 7 games and only won 4 of them.
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10:33p, 9/5/25
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Anybody want to win this game?

Should we start with a runner on 3rd in the 12th?
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In reply to tjack16 • 10:34p, 9/5/25
That's basically handing the game to the rangers. Everyone knows the Astros don't hit with a runner 90' away
No matter what!
Epstein didn't do, you know, the thing...
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10:42p, 9/5/25
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This doesn't end in the 12th, just call it a tie and move on. It ain't like this is exciting baseball with weak groundballs, swings that couldn't hit a beach ball…
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In reply to All I do is Nguyen • 10:42p, 9/5/25
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All I do is Nguyen said:
That's basically handing the game to the rangers. Everyone knows the Astros don't hit with a runner 90' away


You obviously haven't watched the Rangers this year. If the Astros can't get runners home from third either, this may go 20 innings.
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10:44p, 9/5/25
Lance? We're waving the white flag. Lol.
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10:47p, 9/5/25
Told ya
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In reply to Ciboag96 • 10:50p, 9/5/25
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Ciboag96 said:
Lance? We're waving the white flag. Lol.


I said the same thing when we brought in Garcia. I guess he didn't get the memo.
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In reply to gigem1223 • 10:51p, 9/5/25
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In reply to gigem1223 • 11:05p, 9/5/25
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You gained a game on the Seamen for second place.

Congrats, or something, I guess.
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In reply to Hornbeck • 11:10p, 9/5/25
Don't act like you're not worried. Astros are phonies. You know it, I know it, mlb knows it.
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12:46a, 9/6/25
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Don't think I'd say phonies. They have probably had more injuries of any team in MLB. I think they've had like 7 starting pitchers go down and miss time. I saw a crazy stat yesterday. They have had 22 different pitchers win games this year. That's nuts.

But I will agree that they suck at hitting and will likely get passed by both the rangers and the mariners.
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8:54a, 9/6/25
As a die-hard Astro fan, I currently am of the mindset that the Astros are never going to win another game and the Rangers are taking this division. And if you put both teams together into one "super team" that team would lose 100 straight games to the Brewers.
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1:48p, 9/7/25
Astros going for the jugular in moving Framber up in the rotation. I hope he's ready to duel the man-child that is Patrick Corbin.
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In reply to South Platte • 3:19p, 9/7/25
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South Platte said:
Astros going for the jugular in moving Framber up in the rotation. I hope he's ready to duel the man-child that is Patrick Corbin.


You clearly have not seen how bad Framber has been the last month or so. We're all ready for him to be gone
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4:05p, 9/7/25
How about Corbin?!

Never underestimate the crafty deception of a lefty whose fastball doesn't move and tops out at 89.
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In reply to gigem1223 • 8:46a, 9/8/25
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gigem1223 said:
Don't act like you're not worried. Astros are phonies. You know it, I know it, mlb knows it.

4 games back with 18 to go. Its not impossible, but you're going to need to win series from MIL, @NYM, @HOU, and then not slip up vs the bad teams just to stand a chance. Doesa that seem realistic?
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In reply to Farmer1906 • 1:22p, 9/9/25
Farmer1906 said:
gigem1223 said:
Don't act like you're not worried. Astros are phonies. You know it, I know it, mlb knows it.

4 games back with 18 to go. Its not impossible, but you're going to need to win series from MIL, @NYM, @HOU, and then not slip up vs the bad teams just to stand a chance. Doesa that seem realistic?

It's realistic if you guys lose a ****load of games.
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In reply to South Platte • 1:51p, 9/9/25
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South Platte said:
Farmer1906 said:
gigem1223 said:
Don't act like you're not worried. Astros are phonies. You know it, I know it, mlb knows it.

4 games back with 18 to go. Its not impossible, but you're going to need to win series from MIL, @NYM, @HOU, and then not slip up vs the bad teams just to stand a chance. Doesa that seem realistic?

It's realistic if you guys lose a ****load of games.

When, not if. When we lose a ****load of games. Unlike Mr Farmer, I have 0 confidence this team can hit anything smaller and faster than an underhand tossed cantaloupe.
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In reply to Mathguy64 • 2:53p, 9/9/25
Mathguy64 said:
South Platte said:
Farmer1906 said:
gigem1223 said:
Don't act like you're not worried. Astros are phonies. You know it, I know it, mlb knows it.

4 games back with 18 to go. Its not impossible, but you're going to need to win series from MIL, @NYM, @HOU, and then not slip up vs the bad teams just to stand a chance. Doesa that seem realistic?

It's realistic if you guys lose a ****load of games.

When, not if. When we lose a ****load of games. Unlike Mr Farmer, I have 0 confidence this team can hit anything smaller and faster than an underhand tossed cantaloupe.

Right now we are hanging in despite deGrom pitching like a eunuch.
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In reply to South Platte • 3:00p, 9/9/25
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South Platte said:
Mathguy64 said:
South Platte said:
Farmer1906 said:
gigem1223 said:
Don't act like you're not worried. Astros are phonies. You know it, I know it, mlb knows it.

4 games back with 18 to go. Its not impossible, but you're going to need to win series from MIL, @NYM, @HOU, and then not slip up vs the bad teams just to stand a chance. Doesa that seem realistic?

It's realistic if you guys lose a ****load of games.

When, not if. When we lose a ****load of games. Unlike Mr Farmer, I have 0 confidence this team can hit anything smaller and faster than an underhand tossed cantaloupe.

Right now we are hanging in despite deGrom pitching like a eunuch.


Yeah we are somehow in first and Framber is a walking gas can who whines and throws at his own catcher.

If either of our teams were in other divisions we'd be toast
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4:14p, 9/9/25
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I think we all can agree that we are lucky to be in the AL Worst.
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In reply to agproducer • 5:42a, 9/10/25
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agproducer said:
I think we all can agree that we are lucky to be in the AL Worst.


"in"?

We ARE the AL Worst.
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5:44a, 9/10/25
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But, in our defense, at least we don't disappear when our team sucks.
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7:34a, 9/10/25
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Y'all are still relatively new to the AL worst, but for most of my baseball watching life, it seems like the AL worst was a dog **** of a division. Since realignment in the mid 90s the west has 3 WS? And maybe only 6 pennants?

If I were to go back and look at historical division strengths, what metric would you use? Record against teams not in your division? Record of the three best teams against teams not in the division (so the division as a whole isn't drug down by one terrible bottom dweller). Something else?
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In reply to ChipFTAC01 • 8:00a, 9/10/25
ChipFTAC01 said:
Y'all are still relatively new to the AL worst, but for most of my baseball watching life, it seems like the AL worst was a dog **** of a division. Since realignment in the mid 90s the west has 3 WS? And maybe only 6 pennants?

If I were to go back and look at historical division strengths, what metric would you use? Record against teams not in your division? Record of the three best teams against teams not in the division (so the division as a whole isn't drug down by one terrible bottom dweller). Something else?

I'd say it's more of an eye test. On the whole, the AL East has been the best division in baseball for decades.
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In reply to Marvin • 8:19a, 9/10/25
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Marvin said:
But, in our defense, at least we don't disappear when our team sucks.


I don't think we're as big of trash talkers. Not just this year, but most years.

I'm not saying we can't and don't talk trash, but we mostly stay on our board and talk a lot of **** about our own team. We haven't really had the opportunity to come here and spew it against your team.

There is finally movement in the division now that the season is three weeks from being finished. Once Houston took over in May, there hasn't been much jockeying. Seattle really wants to win the division, they just haven't been able to gain any ground.

I'm pretty sure Chris Young sabotaged our vets to get them out of the way for the Little Rascals, hoping to just put a quick end to the season. But it's backfired on him, and we're making a move now.

I have my doubts whether the Rangers will make the postseason, but this has been a fun three weeks or so. I hope the next 2.5 weeks are just as fun.
Double Talkin' Jive...
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9:59p, 9/11/25
I feel like we should all join hands for a moment and root for an Angels comeback.
94chem,
That, sir, was the greatest post in the history of TexAgs. I salute you. -- Dough
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In reply to Marvin • 11:03p, 9/11/25
Marvin said:
But, in our defense, at least we don't disappear when our team sucks.

You've been in first place almost the entire season while we have been in 3rd almost all season. Your team hasn't even shown anything close to sucking until this month.
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In reply to JWinTX • 11:18a, 9/12/25
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JWinTX said:
Marvin said:
But, in our defense, at least we don't disappear when our team sucks.

You've been in first place almost the entire season while we have been in 3rd almost all season. Your team hasn't even shown anything close to sucking until this month.


You must be kidding.
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