Kimmel Pulled Off Air Indefinitely

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Fenrir
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schmendeler said:

No no it's cool that your reaction to showing how not just the left makes jokes about bad **** happening to people is that "actually he just got almost beaten to death by a hammer, so mocking it is an entirely different thing." Moral superiority maintained!

Of course they aren't, which is why it's weird you had to find something that wasn't in line with his statement. Providing an example that is somewhere in a different spot along the line of crassness does nothing to disprove the base argument that was made. You could literally have posted any number of things that would have been a stronger argument.

I don't really care about arguing moral superiority, especially when arguing with people that have no moral consistency. I mean you're already on point that it isn't authoritarian to silence dissidents if it's people you agree with doing the silencing.
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Claude! said:

Two things can be true:
1. Kimmel's statement can reasonably be read as implying that the murderer was a right-winger, which the facts show to not be the case.
2. Statements by the FCC and concerns about blowback from the administration may have influenced Nexstar and Sinclair's decisions to preempt Kimmel and ABC's decision to suspend his show, and definitely at least have the appearance of influencing them.

I don't think any party involved has lily white hands here.




THIS IS SIMPLY TOO REASONABLE
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So we can make fun of the attempted Trump assassination attempt due to your logic that since the murder was just attempted, it's ok?
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johncAG said:

So we can make fun of the attempted Trump assassination attempt due to your logic that since the murder was just attempted, it's ok?

I'm not arguing the morality of it. It's obviously a giant gray area on where the subject matter of a joke becomes too crass for most to take in stride. I'm not even saying what people can or cannot do. I'm just saying that his counterargument simply didn't argue against the claim being made. If he wants to say it's reprehensible to make jokes in light of violence of any kind, he can go for it but I suspect you, him and 99% of the populace are guilty of it.

Also, you don't think lots did make jokes about the Trump assassination attempt? It wasn't hard to find LOTS of people lamenting that the shooter missed Trump. That seems like an odd choice of attempted murder to point out given your argument.
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Fenrir said:

johncAG said:

So we can make fun of the attempted Trump assassination attempt due to your logic that since the murder was just attempted, it's ok?

Also, you don't think lots did make jokes about the Trump assassination attempt? It wasn't hard to find LOTS of people lamenting that the shooter missed Trump. That seems like an odd choice of attempted murder to point out given your argument.

My guy, it's not an 'odd' choice. It's a direct counter to YOUR previous implication that Don Jr's tweet making fun of paul pelosi is acceptable because the attempt on his life failed. YOUR LOGIC is being argued directly with the example of Trump's failed attempt.
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M.C. Swag said:

Fenrir said:

johncAG said:

So we can make fun of the attempted Trump assassination attempt due to your logic that since the murder was just attempted, it's ok?

Also, you don't think lots did make jokes about the Trump assassination attempt? It wasn't hard to find LOTS of people lamenting that the shooter missed Trump. That seems like an odd choice of attempted murder to point out given your argument.

My guy, it's not an 'odd' choice. It's a direct counter to YOUR previous implication that Don Jr's tweet making fun of paul pelosi is acceptable because the attempt on his life failed. YOUR LOGIC is being argued directly with the example of Trump's failed attempt.

Where did I say it was acceptable? I did say the counterargument wasn't an argument against what was being claimed. If we're saying that the Paul Pelosi attack is horrible to joke about then that should make joking about a successful, public assassination in front of hundreds of people even worse to joke about one would imagine...which would then just make captkirk's original claim (that " some people still draw the line about celebrating, joking or outright lying about a public execution of a political figure") even more of a reasonable stance.

Are you arguing it's always ok to joke about people being murdered or where is your specific line you're willing to draw with respect to joking about violence? Is it never acceptable? If it's not, I'm assuming you've never once made a joke about violence right?
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Fenrir said:

M.C. Swag said:

Fenrir said:

johncAG said:

So we can make fun of the attempted Trump assassination attempt due to your logic that since the murder was just attempted, it's ok?

Also, you don't think lots did make jokes about the Trump assassination attempt? It wasn't hard to find LOTS of people lamenting that the shooter missed Trump. That seems like an odd choice of attempted murder to point out given your argument.

My guy, it's not an 'odd' choice. It's a direct counter to YOUR previous implication that Don Jr's tweet making fun of paul pelosi is acceptable because the attempt on his life failed. YOUR LOGIC is being argued directly with the example of Trump's failed attempt.

Where did I say it was acceptable?

Stop playing dumb. Your post clearly implies (the word I used) that because he lived, the Don Jr joke is ok.

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Except that's not me saying it's acceptable, that's me saying they aren't the same and when that's posted in response to
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some people still draw the line about celebrating, joking or outright lying about a public execution of a political figure.

details matter. Were the multitude of people who joked about Trump's assassination attempt "acceptable" in your mind? How about people joking about George Floyd's murder? Where do you draw the line on joking about violence? I'm willing to bet you're anything but consistent. You see it all over this thread. People getting pissy about the very thing they're actively doing or have done when depending on what direction it's pointed in their sad tribalistic lives.
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The actual fascist policies implemented while an incompetent puppet sat in the Oval Office and God only knows who was pulling the levers. And back then some of you currently very concerned citizens couldn't be bothered.

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Stop pivoting. It's your consistency that was being critiqued. I can't help you if you can't see that.
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I live in metro DC, when locals go to tune in tonight and find it's a Sinclair station that's not showing it, the blowback is going to be popcorn worthy.
In all honesty though it's a short sighted decision by Sinclair nationally for their more liberal markets, they gain a bit of cred with the admin for their merger, but they will lose money when the advertiser boycotts start (and they already have). They could easily save face by saying they're letting their local station managers decide. Many in conservative areas would say yes to preempting it and they would get their win anyway. But I guess having trump turn on the TV and see it airing here was too much for them.
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TCTTS said:

You can ***** and moan all you want about someone you hate doing something hateful.

But you cannot argue that our government should be able to effectively silence him via public threat, yet you conveniently keep side-stepping that central issue.

You're just mad that someone you don't like said something you don't like.

That's called being emotional.

It takes a different kind of maturity to be able to admit he should still be able to say what he said without fear of threat/reprisal from our government. Because what happens now that the precedent is set, but the tables are eventually turned, and the next Democrat-led/installed FCC chair goes after Greg Gutfeld or whoever in the same way?

This is all true, but oh so hypocritical from people who were silent while state officials worked directly with social media companies to censor normal Americans, pretending they were Russian bots (see Hamilton 68), or forcing Americans to bake cakes for gay weddings, taking away their business if they refuse, or refusing to allow their state colleges to go to states that had LGBTQ laws that they didn't like, or mandating the removing of statues they don't like.
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Claude! said:


1. Kimmel's statement can reasonably be read as implying that the murderer was a right-winger, which the facts show to not be the case.


Yes, and that's really the only way to reasonably read it. Anything else is spin.
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It's funny you think Trump can stay up that late.
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maroon barchetta said:

It's funny you think Trump can stay up that late.

You don't think trump stays up late? This may be the dumbest post I've ever seen. (Sorry if you were joking)
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I'm not a huge fan of Trump, but his courage and energy level are incredible.
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This sure is a lot of wasted energy on a dying art form.

I imagine we're seeing the last late night talk show hosts on the big three. Carson perfected it and told them how he did it; Leno, Letterman, and Conan carried the torch, and the current three d-bags are so self absorbed they thought they could talk down to one side of the country and still be a success.

TLDR: Kimmel's a lying *******, the FCC should've kept their mouth closed, good riddance to late night talk shows.


"Jimmy Kimmel Live averaged nearly 1 million viewers among the critical demo in 2015 but plummeted to only 261,000 in 2025. The ABC late-night program shed a staggering 72% of the audience that helps pay the bills over the past decade."
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M.C. Swag said:

Stop pivoting. It's your consistency that was being critiqued. I can't help you if you can't see that.


I haven't pivoted once, your inference was just based on an incorrect assumption that I approve of either. I'm just doing the same thing I have all thread, watching tribal obsessed people ***** about behavior they ignore and defend when done by their ideological peers.
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More government pressure on Nexstar.

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schmendeler said:

captkirk said:

txwxman said:

captkirk said:

schmendeler said:

Nexstar still needs govt approval of their merger and Sinclair is conservative owned anyway.

Sinclair needs nothing. They just have moral standards

No such thing as moral standards post-Trump

I guess some people still draw the line about celebrating, joking or outright lying about a public execution of a political figure. I know concepts such as this allude and are foreign to leftists.



If Trump Jr had a show on the public airwaves, I'd be fine with him being fired for this.
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schmendeler said:

Aust Ag said:

schmendeler said:



They can mock all they want and have been doing it for years, so spare me.

Like I said above, how was this a sustainable business model in this new age of content accessibility when you put yourself behind the 8 ball by angering half the country. On what should be a comedy-centric program.

What about "bringing people together"? Not as important as piling on?


Except Trump has been openly talking about going after his enemies in the media for months if not years. Now he's getting what he wants. And you're willfully blind about what's happening.


The left has done more than talk, they've shot, killed and maimed many on the right. Transtifa is real. They've blown up and destroyed EVs, burned down cities, killed cops, etc...

Be proud, lefty.

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M.C. Swag said:

Fenrir said:

johncAG said:

So we can make fun of the attempted Trump assassination attempt due to your logic that since the murder was just attempted, it's ok?

Also, you don't think lots did make jokes about the Trump assassination attempt? It wasn't hard to find LOTS of people lamenting that the shooter missed Trump. That seems like an odd choice of attempted murder to point out given your argument.

My guy, it's not an 'odd' choice. It's a direct counter to YOUR previous implication that Don Jr's tweet making fun of paul pelosi is acceptable because the attempt on his life failed. YOUR LOGIC is being argued directly with the example of Trump's failed attempt.

Fire Trump Jr from his public broadcasting job!.. I'm with you!
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chap said:

More government pressure on Nexstar.



Authoritarian!!!!!!!!!!!!
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fig96 said:

captkirk said:

fig96 said:

captkirk said:

fig96 said:

Quad Dog said:

"We hit some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it".

I think the bold is the contentious few words. Personally I don't see that him saying the bold is implying that the kid is MAGA. It doesn't say anything about the kid. It is talking about MAGA's response to the kid. I think you have to read too much between the lines to see an implication about the kid. But then I don't think I could have told you more than a few sentences about Charlie Kirk at all before 2 weeks ago, so I'm really not invested either way.

It's kind of crazy to me that people can't simply admit that it's a statement that's a bit ambiguous and could be interpreted in a few different ways. Whether you like what he said or not.

How about in the face of a very public execution that rattled half or more of the country, you just keep your fat mouth shut for a few days.

Yes, we've all been discussing this for a week but suddenly I'm the bad guy.

That was addressed to Kimmel

You're not very good at clear statements.

And you're welcome to not like what he said and if this personally affected you I get it. But that doesn't change the point.

The point was stupid given what was known and reported by authorities when he said it.
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I've read in a couple places that family feud last week got more viewers than Kimmel was getting. Haven't seen the actual numbers, but did see Brian stelter try and spin it, so that tells me it's probably true.
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"pressing"

yawn
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Here's hoping Kimmel starts the show by welcoming in his suddenly enormous right-wing Audience tonight.
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If an affiliate refuses to air a program, the network can always offer it to an independent station to air. I mean good luck finding any takers, but it remains a possibility.
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captkirk said:

fig96 said:

captkirk said:

fig96 said:

captkirk said:

fig96 said:

Quad Dog said:

"We hit some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it".

I think the bold is the contentious few words. Personally I don't see that him saying the bold is implying that the kid is MAGA. It doesn't say anything about the kid. It is talking about MAGA's response to the kid. I think you have to read too much between the lines to see an implication about the kid. But then I don't think I could have told you more than a few sentences about Charlie Kirk at all before 2 weeks ago, so I'm really not invested either way.

It's kind of crazy to me that people can't simply admit that it's a statement that's a bit ambiguous and could be interpreted in a few different ways. Whether you like what he said or not.

How about in the face of a very public execution that rattled half or more of the country, you just keep your fat mouth shut for a few days.

Yes, we've all been discussing this for a week but suddenly I'm the bad guy.

That was addressed to Kimmel

You're not very good at clear statements.

And you're welcome to not like what he said and if this personally affected you I get it. But that doesn't change the point.

The point was stupid given what was known and reported by authorities when he said it.
Some of y'all just refuse to acknowledge that there's things to be inferred or not in his statement, so I'll leave you to it.
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Sea Speed said:

I've read in a couple places that family feud last week got more viewers than Kimmel was getting. Haven't seen the actual numbers, but did see Brian stelter try and spin it, so that tells me it's probably true.
I saw something yesterday that mentioned a ton of his reach came via people watching clips on YouTube, where he does have over 20 million followers. No idea as to the accuracy but looks like multimillion views on some recent videos so seems possible.

Traffic from the past few days also isn't likely representative of the average.
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RogerFurlong said:

maroon barchetta said:

It's funny you think Trump can stay up that late.

You don't think trump stays up late? This may be the dumbest post I've ever seen. (Sorry if you were joking)


If you don't know if it's a joke, I'm not going to explain it to you.
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Screen grab isn't working

Text of Trump post tonight:

"I can't believe ABC Fake News gave Jimmy Kimmel his job back. The White House was told by ABC that his Show was cancelled! Something happened between then and now because his audience is GONE, and his 'talent' was never there. Why would they want someone back who does so poorly, who's not funny, and who puts the Network in jeopardy by playing 99% positive Democrat GARBAGE. He is yet another arm of the DNC and, to the best of my knowledge, that would be a major Illegal Campaign Contribution. I think we're going to test ABC out on this. Let's see how we do. Last time I went after them, they gave me $16 Million Dollars. This one sounds even more lucrative. A true bunch of losers! Let Jimmy Kimmel rot in his bad Ratings."
Thanks and gig'em
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What even would Trump's suit be? They said mean things about me?
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Thanks for posting. I will make my biases known. As somebody that you would consider "far right," I found this to be appropriate, albeit a bit dicky at some spots.

While I haven't found him funny or enjoyed his content for some time now, there was obviously some humility shown and grace towards people on the other side of the aisle, while still making unnecessary digs.

That being said, it will always stick with me that Corolla is obviously on the other side of the aisle of him and they have remained friends, including Jimmy offering to take in Adam when he was displaced by the fires. There is a core to being a decent person in that.

Despite me thinking he's not that funny now and bought and paid for by the establishment, he is obviously not a ghoul and does indeed have humanity.

You can be an unfunny dick and still be a decent human, and I thought he handled that in the best unfunny dick, but most decently human way possible.

I accept any and all arrows.

P.S Ted Cruz beat you in basketball and you will have to live with that forever.
 
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