GoAgs92 said:

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I loathe Anne Hathaway. It's completely irrational, and I can't even explain why.

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Felt the same way, not sure why, never really watched her in anything...but she was really good in Batman so my opinion did a 180.

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Yes. Yes, she was very good.

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1981 Monte Carlo said:

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Had nothing to do with "oppression of the white man" or anything, but you couldn't just state that you disagree that race every plays a role in these types of things and state your reasoning. You had to pivot with this snide comment...

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Yeah, I often think about how tough I have it as a white guy.

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After a relaxing afternoon of being away from TexAgs, figured I'd respond to this creative repositioning of what you said.

I was responding to this statement from you:

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Skin color gives you an advantage in just about every area of life now.

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Do people of color get noticed more for excelling in certain fields? Sure, happens in a variety of ways and you do see it in things like the Oscars. But they don't do it without also being insanely talented.

Ryan Coogler is tracking to be as successful as guys like Spielberg through his first five films, that's insane for any director. The guy makes compelling stories that make tons of money (writing, directing, and producing) and is being recognized for it.

Fun story: Ryan Coogler was also arrested while trying to make a large withdrawal at a bank a couple years ago. Nothing to do with skin color I'm sure.

This is apparently news to you, but white people get treated differently because of the color of their skin in most any aspect of life. Going into a store, showing up at an appointment, stopping at a bank, walking behind someone on the street, getting pulled over by a cop, going into a job interview, and the list goes on and on. And yes, there's of course exception, but I find it kind of amazing that someone genuinely thinks minorities have it better than they do.

And thanks for letting me know things have changed, but I've been laid off a few times in the last several years and have shockingly landed great new jobs each time despite being a middle aged white guy.

If you truly think you're worse off than minorities because of the color of your skin, tell that to a friend of color. I'm sure they'll totally agree with you.

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I never said I am worse off than a black person. I just said that we openly discriminate against white and Asian people in school admissions and the hiring process...we don't know what this is like bc we are "olds"...but many from Gen Z do. THIS IS WIDELY KNOWN. Harvard does it, fortune 500 companies do it...it doesn't mean white people can't land jobs...just that we openly practice racial discrimination in this country...and to pretend we don;t is foolish. Just acknowledge we do and state your case for supporting it.

For the bolded portion, do white people get treated differently than Asians in these same places because of the color of their skin? My Asian wife hasn't experienced this. Hell, I often find myself keeping an eye out for other "rough" looking whites more than I do Asians, who commit the lowest amt of violent and non violent crimes, per capita.

Lastly, might many people view the below youths...



Different than this guy? Why or why not?



I'd even go so far as to argue that most people in society would treat this guy differntly than the above man in suit, or at least view/approach him differently. This is a lot more nuanced than you are making it.

1981 Monte Carlo said:

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fig96 said:

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1981 Monte Carlo said:

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Had nothing to do with "oppression of the white man" or anything, but you couldn't just state that you disagree that race every plays a role in these types of things and state your reasoning. You had to pivot with this snide comment...

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Yeah, I often think about how tough I have it as a white guy.

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After a relaxing afternoon of being away from TexAgs, figured I'd respond to this creative repositioning of what you said.

I was responding to this statement from you:

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Skin color gives you an advantage in just about every area of life now.

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Do people of color get noticed more for excelling in certain fields? Sure, happens in a variety of ways and you do see it in things like the Oscars. But they don't do it without also being insanely talented.

Ryan Coogler is tracking to be as successful as guys like Spielberg through his first five films, that's insane for any director. The guy makes compelling stories that make tons of money (writing, directing, and producing) and is being recognized for it.

Fun story: Ryan Coogler was also arrested while trying to make a large withdrawal at a bank a couple years ago. Nothing to do with skin color I'm sure.

This is apparently news to you, but white people get treated differently because of the color of their skin in most any aspect of life. Going into a store, showing up at an appointment, stopping at a bank, walking behind someone on the street, getting pulled over by a cop, going into a job interview, and the list goes on and on. And yes, there's of course exception, but I find it kind of amazing that someone genuinely thinks minorities have it better than they do.

And thanks for letting me know things have changed, but I've been laid off a few times in the last several years and have shockingly landed great new jobs each time despite being a middle aged white guy.

If you truly think you're worse off than minorities because of the color of your skin, tell that to a friend of color. I'm sure they'll totally agree with you.

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I never said I am worse off than a black person. I just said that we openly discriminate against white and Asian people in school admissions and the hiring process...we don't know what this is like bc we are "olds"...but many from Gen Z do. THIS IS WIDELY KNOWN. Harvard does it, fortune 500 companies do it...it doesn't mean white people can't land jobs...just that we openly practice racial discrimination in this country...and to pretend we don;t is foolish. Just acknowledge we do and state your case for supporting it.

For the bolded portion, do white people get treated differently than Asians in these same places because of the color of their skin? My Asian wife hasn't experienced this. Hell, I often find myself keeping an eye out for other "rough" looking whites more than I do Asians, who commit the lowest amt of violent and non violent crimes, per capita.

Lastly, might many people view the below youths...



Different than this guy? Why or why not?

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Just in terms of post-compared-to-original-topic grading, this has to be the front-runner for Worst Post of 2026. Brother, what TF are you doing or talking about. Seriously.

How did you get that picture of my dad?

Head Ninja In Charge said:

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1981 Monte Carlo said:

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fig96 said:

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1981 Monte Carlo said:

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Had nothing to do with "oppression of the white man" or anything, but you couldn't just state that you disagree that race every plays a role in these types of things and state your reasoning. You had to pivot with this snide comment...

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Yeah, I often think about how tough I have it as a white guy.

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After a relaxing afternoon of being away from TexAgs, figured I'd respond to this creative repositioning of what you said.

I was responding to this statement from you:

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Skin color gives you an advantage in just about every area of life now.

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Do people of color get noticed more for excelling in certain fields? Sure, happens in a variety of ways and you do see it in things like the Oscars. But they don't do it without also being insanely talented.

Ryan Coogler is tracking to be as successful as guys like Spielberg through his first five films, that's insane for any director. The guy makes compelling stories that make tons of money (writing, directing, and producing) and is being recognized for it.

Fun story: Ryan Coogler was also arrested while trying to make a large withdrawal at a bank a couple years ago. Nothing to do with skin color I'm sure.

This is apparently news to you, but white people get treated differently because of the color of their skin in most any aspect of life. Going into a store, showing up at an appointment, stopping at a bank, walking behind someone on the street, getting pulled over by a cop, going into a job interview, and the list goes on and on. And yes, there's of course exception, but I find it kind of amazing that someone genuinely thinks minorities have it better than they do.

And thanks for letting me know things have changed, but I've been laid off a few times in the last several years and have shockingly landed great new jobs each time despite being a middle aged white guy.

If you truly think you're worse off than minorities because of the color of your skin, tell that to a friend of color. I'm sure they'll totally agree with you.

Edit: spelling

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I never said I am worse off than a black person. I just said that we openly discriminate against white and Asian people in school admissions and the hiring process...we don't know what this is like bc we are "olds"...but many from Gen Z do. THIS IS WIDELY KNOWN. Harvard does it, fortune 500 companies do it...it doesn't mean white people can't land jobs...just that we openly practice racial discrimination in this country...and to pretend we don;t is foolish. Just acknowledge we do and state your case for supporting it.

For the bolded portion, do white people get treated differently than Asians in these same places because of the color of their skin? My Asian wife hasn't experienced this. Hell, I often find myself keeping an eye out for other "rough" looking whites more than I do Asians, who commit the lowest amt of violent and non violent crimes, per capita.

Lastly, might many people view the below youths...



Different than this guy? Why or why not?

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Just in terms of post-compared-to-original-topic grading, this has to be the front-runner for Worst Post of 2026. Brother, what TF are you doing or talking about. Seriously.

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Responding to another poster as a courtesy.

Shooting down the "white people treated good, non-white people treated bad" nonsense narrative. It's far more nuanced than that and largely determined by things like clothing, how you carry yourself etc.

Not complicated. Again, fig can't let it go because I simply made the point that some film and other pieces of art MIGHT sometimes receive extra hype or preferential treatment because of the color of the artist/artists.

Be honest, do you think Sinners should be the most nominated Oscar film of all time? In all of cinema history?

1981 Monte Carlo said:

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Be honest, do you think Sinners should be the most nominated Oscar film of all time? In all of cinema history?

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Big Trouble in Little China should be the most nominated Oscar film of all time.

1981 Monte Carlo said:

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Head Ninja In Charge said:

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1981 Monte Carlo said:

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fig96 said:

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1981 Monte Carlo said:

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Had nothing to do with "oppression of the white man" or anything, but you couldn't just state that you disagree that race every plays a role in these types of things and state your reasoning. You had to pivot with this snide comment...

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Yeah, I often think about how tough I have it as a white guy.

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After a relaxing afternoon of being away from TexAgs, figured I'd respond to this creative repositioning of what you said.

I was responding to this statement from you:

Quote:

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Skin color gives you an advantage in just about every area of life now.

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Do people of color get noticed more for excelling in certain fields? Sure, happens in a variety of ways and you do see it in things like the Oscars. But they don't do it without also being insanely talented.

Ryan Coogler is tracking to be as successful as guys like Spielberg through his first five films, that's insane for any director. The guy makes compelling stories that make tons of money (writing, directing, and producing) and is being recognized for it.

Fun story: Ryan Coogler was also arrested while trying to make a large withdrawal at a bank a couple years ago. Nothing to do with skin color I'm sure.

This is apparently news to you, but white people get treated differently because of the color of their skin in most any aspect of life. Going into a store, showing up at an appointment, stopping at a bank, walking behind someone on the street, getting pulled over by a cop, going into a job interview, and the list goes on and on. And yes, there's of course exception, but I find it kind of amazing that someone genuinely thinks minorities have it better than they do.

And thanks for letting me know things have changed, but I've been laid off a few times in the last several years and have shockingly landed great new jobs each time despite being a middle aged white guy.

If you truly think you're worse off than minorities because of the color of your skin, tell that to a friend of color. I'm sure they'll totally agree with you.

Edit: spelling

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I never said I am worse off than a black person. I just said that we openly discriminate against white and Asian people in school admissions and the hiring process...we don't know what this is like bc we are "olds"...but many from Gen Z do. THIS IS WIDELY KNOWN. Harvard does it, fortune 500 companies do it...it doesn't mean white people can't land jobs...just that we openly practice racial discrimination in this country...and to pretend we don;t is foolish. Just acknowledge we do and state your case for supporting it.

For the bolded portion, do white people get treated differently than Asians in these same places because of the color of their skin? My Asian wife hasn't experienced this. Hell, I often find myself keeping an eye out for other "rough" looking whites more than I do Asians, who commit the lowest amt of violent and non violent crimes, per capita.

Lastly, might many people view the below youths...



Different than this guy? Why or why not?

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Just in terms of post-compared-to-original-topic grading, this has to be the front-runner for Worst Post of 2026. Brother, what TF are you doing or talking about. Seriously.

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Responding to another poster as a courtesy.

Shooting down the "white people treated good, non-white people treated bad" nonsense narrative. It's far more nuanced than that and largely determined by things like clothing, how you carry yourself etc.

Not complicated. Again, fig can't let it go because I simply made the point that some film and other pieces of art MIGHT sometimes receive extra hype or preferential treatment because of the color of the artist/artists.

Be honest, do you think Sinners should be the most nominated Oscar film of all time? In all of cinema history?

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Be honest, do you actually read what other people write?

You just said I "can't let it go because I simply made the point that some film and other pieces of art MIGHT sometimes receive extra hype or preferential treatment because of the color of the artist/artists."

Is this statement from me somehow unclear?

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Do people of color get noticed more for excelling in certain fields? Sure, happens in a variety of ways and you do see it in things like the Oscars. But they don't do it without also being insanely talented.

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And just to clear, your original post I responded to stated:

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Skin color gives you an advantage in just about every area of life now.

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Which would seem to indicate minorities have it better which is a kinda insane statement, hence my "snide" comment.

The problem with trying to have a discussion with you that in any response you assign silly absolute positions to people. Voted Democrat? Oh well you support terrorists and men playing sports against 12 year old girls. Think white people have it better? Well then you think minorities should get preferential treatment in everything they do.

The world is far more nuanced than two parties, most of us agree on far more than we disagree on and sit closer to middle than the extremes. Trying to act like anyone that believes differently than you is your enemy is why the two parties campaign on stupid culture war issues and have the divide we see today.

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The world is far more nuanced than two parties, most of us agree on far more than we disagree on and sit closer to middle than the extremes. Trying to act like anyone that believes differently than you is your enemy is why the two parties campaign on stupid culture war issues and have the divide we see today.

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This statement was true throughout most of our country's history, up until around the 2010's.

I have nothing in common with someone who thinks the US is an evil empire and should be completely deconstructed and rebuilt from a Marxist point of view. When both sides fundamentally disagree on the core values of this country, middle ground disappears.

This isn't the 90's, where both parties loved this country but had different views on how to spend our tax money. We have literal representatives who despise this country, wear flags from other countries, and want everything about our country to change.

I think that's a gross mischaracterization of those you think you disagree with. Who is actually saying any of that?

It actually illustrates my point quite well.

Lathspell said:

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fig96 said:

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The world is far more nuanced than two parties, most of us agree on far more than we disagree on and sit closer to middle than the extremes. Trying to act like anyone that believes differently than you is your enemy is why the two parties campaign on stupid culture war issues and have the divide we see today.

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This statement was true throughout most of our country's history, up until around the 2010's.

I have nothing in common with someone who thinks the US is an evil empire and should be completely deconstructed and rebuilt from a Marxist point of view. When both sides fundamentally disagree on the core values of this country, middle ground disappears.

This isn't the 90's, where both parties loved this country but had different views on how to spend our tax money. We have literal representatives who despise this country, wear flags from other countries, and want everything about our country to change.

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I'm pretty sure you and I would disagree on a lot of things politically. Do you think that's what I believe?

Lathspell said:

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fig96 said:

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The world is far more nuanced than two parties, most of us agree on far more than we disagree on and sit closer to middle than the extremes. Trying to act like anyone that believes differently than you is your enemy is why the two parties campaign on stupid culture war issues and have the divide we see today.

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This statement was true throughout most of our country's history, up until around the 2010's.

I have nothing in common with someone who thinks the US is an evil empire and should be completely deconstructed and rebuilt from a Marxist point of view. When both sides fundamentally disagree on the core values of this country, middle ground disappears.

This isn't the 90's, where both parties loved this country but had different views on how to spend our tax money. We have literal representatives who despise this country, wear flags from other countries, and want everything about our country to change.

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I would guess those reps think we can improve upon where we are today which means making changes.

The flags from other countries thing is a bit overblown IMO.

• Today is St. Patrick's day and we have whole ass parades of people waving Irish flags, celebrating Irish culture, and generally promoting the country of Ireland. And for those with Irish heritage, that pride often extends far beyond today. There are almost 30 Emerald Societies that comprised of public service workers (mostly cops) that celebrate members' connection to Ireland. They even have drum and pipe bands.
• Congress first recognized St. Patrick's Day in 1884 and they've had a congressional luncheon to celebrate every year since 1983.
• The Ancient Order of Hibernians is a large Irish Catholic organization that presents members of congress with special lapel pins to promote the Irish Perspective on Comprehensive Immigration Reform (which members happily wear).

Last time I checked, Ireland =/= The United States.

But nobody seems to have a problem with this celebration and promotion of Ireland.

nai06 said:

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Lathspell said:

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fig96 said:

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The world is far more nuanced than two parties, most of us agree on far more than we disagree on and sit closer to middle than the extremes. Trying to act like anyone that believes differently than you is your enemy is why the two parties campaign on stupid culture war issues and have the divide we see today.

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This statement was true throughout most of our country's history, up until around the 2010's.

I have nothing in common with someone who thinks the US is an evil empire and should be completely deconstructed and rebuilt from a Marxist point of view. When both sides fundamentally disagree on the core values of this country, middle ground disappears.

This isn't the 90's, where both parties loved this country but had different views on how to spend our tax money. We have literal representatives who despise this country, wear flags from other countries, and want everything about our country to change.

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I would guess those reps think we can improve upon where we are today which means making changes.

The flags from other countries thing is a bit overblown IMO.

• Today is St. Patrick's day and we have whole ass parades of people waving Irish flags, celebrating Irish culture, and generally promoting the country of Ireland. And for those with Irish heritage, that pride often extends far beyond today. There are almost 30 Emerald Societies that comprised of public service workers (mostly cops) that celebrate members' connection to Ireland. They even have drum and pipe bands.
• Congress first recognized St. Patrick's Day in 1884 and they've had a congressional luncheon to celebrate every year since 1983.
• The Ancient Order of Hibernians is a large Irish Catholic organization that presents members of congress with special lapel pins to promote the Irish Perspective on Comprehensive Immigration Reform (which members happily wear).

Last time I checked, Ireland =/= The United States.

But nobody seems to have a problem with this celebration and promotion of Ireland.

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Because they're white

nai06 said:

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Lathspell said:

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fig96 said:

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The world is far more nuanced than two parties, most of us agree on far more than we disagree on and sit closer to middle than the extremes. Trying to act like anyone that believes differently than you is your enemy is why the two parties campaign on stupid culture war issues and have the divide we see today.

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This statement was true throughout most of our country's history, up until around the 2010's.

I have nothing in common with someone who thinks the US is an evil empire and should be completely deconstructed and rebuilt from a Marxist point of view. When both sides fundamentally disagree on the core values of this country, middle ground disappears.

This isn't the 90's, where both parties loved this country but had different views on how to spend our tax money. We have literal representatives who despise this country, wear flags from other countries, and want everything about our country to change.

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I would guess those reps think we can improve upon where we are today which means making changes.

The flags from other countries thing is a bit overblown IMO.

• Today is St. Patrick's day and we have whole ass parades of people waving Irish flags, celebrating Irish culture, and generally promoting the country of Ireland. And for those with Irish heritage, that pride often extends far beyond today. There are almost 30 Emerald Societies that comprised of public service workers (mostly cops) that celebrate members' connection to Ireland. They even have drum and pipe bands.
• Congress first recognized St. Patrick's Day in 1884 and they've had a congressional luncheon to celebrate every year since 1983.
• The Ancient Order of Hibernians is a large Irish Catholic organization that presents members of congress with special lapel pins to promote the Irish Perspective on Comprehensive Immigration Reform (which members happily wear).

Last time I checked, Ireland =/= The United States.

But nobody seems to have a problem with this celebration and promotion of Ireland.

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Lol, this applies here imo...



St Patty's day lol. No one ever had a problem with Cinco de Mayo either (other than some hispanics not appreciating the "cultural appropriation"). I think you might be intentionally missing the point to represent "your side".

How the hell did the OSCARS thread turn into THIS?

I mean, I know exactly how - it's the same old bull**** that always infects this board - but good gosh this is on another level.

I am kinda shocked staff hasn't stepped in yet. It is such a ****ing derail

So whether it's everything was fine up until the 1990s or the 2010s, the thread that runs so true appears to be that a couple of you feel everybody got along great in Congress until we started letting the broads, minorities, and the gays into politics.

In 1980, there were 512 white people and 23 non-whites in Congress.
In 1990, it was 495-40.
In 2000, it was 472-63
In 2010, it was 444-91
In 2020, it was 411-124

In 1980, there were 512 men and 23 women in Congress
In 1990, it was 481-54.
In 2000, it was 461-74.
In 2010, it was 428-107.
In 2020, it was 391-144.

For those pesky gays, at least the ones who openly declared, it was.
1980: 533-2 straights in a landslide
1990: 531-4
2000: 532-3
2010: 528-7
2020: 524-11 - double digits! Someone fire the straight defensive coordinator!

By letting these weirdos who have different opinions about the way things should be be part of making the laws, we are ruining America. if we could just go back to the happy time where straight, white men made all the decisions, and it was confirmed that these were the best decisions by the straight, white, male media, maybe we actually could make America great again.

The Oscars would be much better a well.
In the 1980s, we did it right: 53 white winners in the big 5 categories vs 7 for the other races
In the 1990s, 54-6
2000s: 45-15, I don't like where this is headed
2010s: 36-24
2020s: 12 white, 18 non-white. Abomination.