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Marvin said:AgBQ-00 said:
refuting what claim?
Anthony's claim that the victim put his hands on him, which is his apparent justification for the stabbing. Do we know if there is video evidence of this?
Sorry, I've tried to keep up but may have missed it.
The recap of yesterday's testimony that I posted earlier said the surveillance cameras, not the best quality, apparently shows someone dressed in Austin's clothing (can't make out the face) does apparently shove someone dressed in Anthony's clothing. There is a jolting type movement. That is all that I know about.
Marvin said:AgBQ-00 said:
refuting what claim?
Anthony's claim that the victim put his hands on him, which is his apparent justification for the stabbing. Do we know if there is video evidence of this?
Sorry, I've tried to keep up but may have missed it.
Placing your hands on someone may be offensive, but it's not an action that warrants fatal self defense response.
You cannot warn someone "Touch me and see what happens", and be justified in stabbing them when they touch you.
That's what this trial boils down to.
jrdaustin said:Marvin said:AgBQ-00 said:
refuting what claim?
Anthony's claim that the victim put his hands on him, which is his apparent justification for the stabbing. Do we know if there is video evidence of this?
Sorry, I've tried to keep up but may have missed it.
Placing your hands on someone may be offensive, but it's not an action that warrants fatal self defense response.
You cannot warn someone "Touch me and see what happens", and be justified in stabbing them when they touch you.
That's what this trial boils down to.
Exactly, except in urban black culture, it 100% justifies using lethal force because simply touching someone after being told not to is a diss, and a diss is a capital offense.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
jrdaustin said:Marvin said:AgBQ-00 said:
refuting what claim?
Anthony's claim that the victim put his hands on him, which is his apparent justification for the stabbing. Do we know if there is video evidence of this?
Sorry, I've tried to keep up but may have missed it.
Placing your hands on someone may be offensive, but it's not an action that warrants fatal self defense response.
You cannot warn someone "Touch me and see what happens", and be justified in stabbing them when they touch you.
That's what this trial boils down to.
I'm well aware of this. I was just asking if the defendant had any proof of what he claimed... not that it justified his actions.
Carry on.
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I assume there is no history of interaction between Anthony and Metcalf? I am not sure its a legit defense, but if Metcalf had whooped Anthony's tail in a previous altercation, then I could understand Anthony being predisposed to what is still on overreaction in my opinion.
Just a question. Not defending Anthony in the least. The kid seems feral and should be permanently caged. Just pondering what else the defense could come up with.
Just a question. Not defending Anthony in the least. The kid seems feral and should be permanently caged. Just pondering what else the defense could come up with.
aggiehawg said:Marvin said:AgBQ-00 said:
refuting what claim?
Anthony's claim that the victim put his hands on him, which is his apparent justification for the stabbing. Do we know if there is video evidence of this?
Sorry, I've tried to keep up but may have missed it.
The recap of yesterday's testimony that I posted earlier said the surveillance cameras, not the best quality, apparently shows someone dressed in Austin's clothing (can't make out the face) does apparently shove someone dressed in Anthony's clothing. There is a jolting type movement. That is all that I know about.
Thanks!
I love Texas Aggie sports, but I love Texas A&M more.
don't think they had ever even met before.
God loves you so much He'll meet you where you are. He also loves you too much to allow to stay where you are.
We sing Hallelujah! The Lamb has overcome!
We sing Hallelujah! The Lamb has overcome!
Roger that and that was my recollection as well. Thanks!
agent-maroon said:
How is that not a confession? Or maybe that's already established and I missed that somehow?
Its a confession.
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flown-the-coop said:
I assume there is no history of interaction between Anthony and Metcalf? I am not sure its a legit defense, but if Metcalf had whooped Anthony's tail in a previous altercation, then I could understand Anthony being predisposed to what is still on overreaction in my opinion.
Just a question. Not defending Anthony in the least. The kid seems feral and should be permanently caged. Just pondering what else the defense could come up with.
Both sides say the boys had never met before the incident.
flown-the-coop said:
I assume there is no history of interaction between Anthony and Metcalf? I am not sure its a legit defense, but if Metcalf had whooped Anthony's tail in a previous altercation, then I could understand Anthony being predisposed to what is still on overreaction in my opinion.
Just a question. Not defending Anthony in the least. The kid seems feral and should be permanently caged. Just pondering what else the defense could come up with.
Even if there had been a previous altercation, Anthony's presence in their tent when he was not even participating in the meet is a provocative move especially considering he had a knife with him.
It's a shame that this case all boils down to whether or not a jury believes that a culture of "diss" allows for the response to justify taking a life
But here we are…
But here we are…
agent-maroon said:
How is that not a confession? Or maybe that's already established and I missed that somehow?
He isn't denying he stabbed Austin; his defense is that it was justified because he had a reasonable fear for his life. It was really the only possible defense that could go with, considering there is something like 20 people who saw him do it.
spencerdhg said:flown-the-coop said:
I assume there is no history of interaction between Anthony and Metcalf? I am not sure its a legit defense, but if Metcalf had whooped Anthony's tail in a previous altercation, then I could understand Anthony being predisposed to what is still on overreaction in my opinion.
Just a question. Not defending Anthony in the least. The kid seems feral and should be permanently caged. Just pondering what else the defense could come up with.
Even if there had been a previous altercation, Anthony's presence in their tent when he was not even participating in the meet is a provocative move especially considering he had a knife with him.
That kid woke up that morning wanting to hurt or kill somebody. That is why he had the knife.
School shooters have a gun, not to protect themselves , but to hurt others.
He didn't tell the officer I stabbed him bc I feared for my life. He said he did it bc Austin put his hands on him. He's cooked.
That's not necessarily true. Plenty of people carry knives and firearms. Of course, it was against the law for him to carry it on school grounds, but I don't believe he is being prosecuted for that.
This case sucks so much. So many lives destroyed and the loss of one. I'm not defending Anthony, just saying it is so tragic.
I'm so sick of the racism agenda. It will never end.
This case sucks so much. So many lives destroyed and the loss of one. I'm not defending Anthony, just saying it is so tragic.
I'm so sick of the racism agenda. It will never end.
Stand your ground has nothing to do with murdering an unarmed man who pushed you.
Ellis Wyatt said:
Stand your ground has nothing to do with murdering an unarmed man who pushed you.
I know that. But, the defense made an opening statement that they would be using SYG as part of their strategy in the case, laughable as it seems.
A Net Full of Jello said:agent-maroon said:
How is that not a confession? Or maybe that's already established and I missed that somehow?
He isn't denying he stabbed Austin; his defense is that it was justified because he had a reasonable fear for his life. It was really the only possible defense that could go with, considering there is something like 20 people who saw him do it.
OK that makes sense
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When Dallas burns after he's found guilty, I hope the cops stack bodies.
They're muddying the water.
The kid is a thug and a murderer. He should have taken a plea deal instead of allowing this nastiness and all the racism that has been encouraged.
The kid is a thug and a murderer. He should have taken a plea deal instead of allowing this nastiness and all the racism that has been encouraged.
I agree. I don't believe for a moment that SYG is a logical justification in this case. I was asking if anyone else was of the opinion from the first Officer's video evidence that the defense's odds of playing the SYG card was effectively void.
Ellis Wyatt said:
They're muddying the water.
The kid is a thug and a murderer. He should have taken a plea deal instead of allowing this nastiness and all the racism that has been encouraged.
Do you really think that thought ever entered his mind, his lawyer's mind or his worthless thug family's mind?
schmellba99 said:Ellis Wyatt said:
They're muddying the water.
The kid is a thug and a murderer. He should have taken a plea deal instead of allowing this nastiness and all the racism that has been encouraged.
Do you really think that thought ever entered his mind, his lawyer's mind or his worthless thug family's mind?
He doesn't owe anyone else a thing when thinking about his options for defense. That's just silly.
Ellis Wyatt said:
They're muddying the water.
The kid is a thug and a murderer. He should have taken a plea deal instead of allowing this nastiness and all the racism that has been encouraged.
It's a feature, not a bug.
Bull Meachem said:schmellba99 said:Ellis Wyatt said:
They're muddying the water.
The kid is a thug and a murderer. He should have taken a plea deal instead of allowing this nastiness and all the racism that has been encouraged.
Do you really think that thought ever entered his mind, his lawyer's mind or his worthless thug family's mind?
He doesn't owe anyone else a thing when thinking about his options for defense. That's just silly.
More like they're gearing this up for the next summer of love trigger before midterms. If Anthony has to serve years for the cause, that's acceptable and whey there is over a half million bucks in their gofundme for payoff. Also explains the completely unhinged things being done and said on the street. They need a black person shot to couple with it.
normalhorn said:
Does the Officer's body cam video damage defense's argument for Stand Your Ground? Murderer had the means and opportunity to flee the victim's presence when he felt his life was in jeopardy, but proceeded to stay in proximity with the victim
"Stand your ground" means that you don't have a legal obligation to retreat if able (e.g., if someone comes in your home with a knife and you could climb out of an open window instead of shooting them, you don't have a legal obligation to do that).
The framework the defense is trying to lay is that Anthony did not have an obligation to leave the tent when Metcalf told him to, which is likely true as a matter of law.
That is a necessary but not sufficient part of his attempt at a self defense claim; the problem for Anthony is that being pushed or shoved does not create a reasonable basis for fearing for one's life.
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If a kid brought a knife for protection, he would most likely flash knife and try to get out of situation. Mr Karmelo went to his bag, retrieved knife and went to stab the other. He could have picked up bag and gone on. He was looking for trouble.
YokelRidesAgain said:normalhorn said:
Does the Officer's body cam video damage defense's argument for Stand Your Ground? Murderer had the means and opportunity to flee the victim's presence when he felt his life was in jeopardy, but proceeded to stay in proximity with the victim
"Stand your ground" means that you don't have a legal obligation to retreat if able (e.g., if someone comes in your home with a knife and you could climb out of an open window instead of shooting them, you don't have a legal obligation to do that).
The framework the defense is trying to lay is that Anthony did not have an obligation to leave the tent when Metcalf told him to, which is likely true as a matter of law.
That is a necessary but not sufficient part of his attempt at a self defense claim; the problem for Anthony is that being pushed or shoved does not create a reasonable basis for fearing for one's life.
The first witness ruined that by explaining what the track tents mean and the culture, something like a multi million dollar industry, and that tent space are used to keep teams separate. He explains only team members are supposed to be under the tent and there is supposed to be a coach there to regulate. Might of opened the district up to litigation from the Metcalf family since there wasn't one in there.
I can almost guarantee you there will be a coach or teacher under every tent in every sport that uses them across Texas going forward. Track, cross country, swim, golf, etc all use some kind of similar set up. If you played any kind of sport at the high school level you understand team spaces and not crossing boundaries. You just didn't do it.
ShaggySLC said:
The first witness ruined that by explaining what the track tents mean and the culture
I don't disagree that Anthony likely knew he wasn't supposed to be in there, but track meet rules aren't legally binding.
The case is entirely about whether Anthony was legitimately in fear for his life, which he wasn't. In the absence of that, nothing else matters.
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White-knighting this killer by some people here. Wow
YokelRidesAgain said:ShaggySLC said:
The first witness ruined that by explaining what the track tents mean and the culture
I don't disagree that Anthony likely knew he wasn't supposed to be in there, but track meet rules aren't legally binding.
The case is entirely about whether Anthony was legitimately in fear for his life, which he wasn't. In the absence of that, nothing else matters.
Showing that he was somewhere he knew he wasn't supposed in addition to his provocation towards Metcalf damages his argument. Something doesn't have to be illegal in order to be utilized as supporting evidence against a defendant. You're trying very hard to show that his being there wasn't problematic for some reason.
When I worked with these kind of kids, they could go from blindsiding and kicking sheet out of some other kid to crying and sobbing victim in two shakes. Very convincing. Its their MO.
Ellis Wyatt said:
The kid is a thug and a murderer. He should have taken a plea deal instead of allowing this nastiness and all the racism that has been encouraged.
It takes two to tango!
The DA has no reason to make any offer of anything other than close to the max sentence. Confession, video and murder weapon. Not a difficult case!
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