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3:22p, 6/6/26
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He should probably take the stand, but that would open up the chance that even more damning evidence is presented about him.
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A Net Full of Jello
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In reply to ErnestEndeavor • 3:24p, 6/6/26
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ErnestEndeavor said:
Got a Natty! said:
I'm thinking the defense will call no one. Jury will come back Monday for closing arguments.


In a self-defense case a lot rides on what the defendant was thinking and perceiving in the moment. This isn't a situation where there was some sort of obvious fear of death or significant body injury that the jury would be able to surmise on their own.

Very difficult to make an argument along those lines in this particular circumstance unless the defendant testifies.

I wonder if their plan might be to get a few friends and family of Karmelo to testify that he was never violent and would have absolutely never killed anyone unless he really honestly and truly feared for his life.

Of course, if it comes out in cross-examination that Karmelo has been in fights and isn't the A+ Boy Scout who was on his way to Harvard Medical School but only after serving a mission trip deworming orphans in third-world countries... that will work against the only defense I think they can try.
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3:25p, 6/6/26
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Yep, he's basically his only witness. If you try to shoot for not guilty, I think you have to take a crack at telling a sob story of how scared you were. But I don't sense he is capable of it, and I would LOVE to see his online gun and bird pics and other bull**** I'm sure exists brought in. I think he stays silent and they work the sentence as best they can.
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In reply to A Net Full of Jello • 3:26p, 6/6/26
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I think they'll bring out those guns on the sentence. But they have no relevance to the incident for guilt/innocence.
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In reply to Got a Natty! • 3:26p, 6/6/26
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When court resumes the judge will ask defendant if he wishes to waive his 5th Amendment right and testify. If he says "yes" then it is against his lawyers advice. But that happens fairly often. Especially with young black clients.

If he does testify that rarely works out well for him.

Wouldn't think it even possible that someone could be so naive and/or entitled. Are these guys just incapable of reading a room or what? Incredible...
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3:27p, 6/6/26
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Prosecution licking their chops at the prospect of getting to cross this kid?

Or do you go easy on the kid lest he completely lose that "tough guy gangster" image and the soft frail suburb kid breaks down and starts bawling like "Fata__" in Shawshank" potentially harboring a sympathy contingent on the jury.

BTW that YT video a few pages back by the guy that spent 10 years behind bars was fascinating. I don't think any of us really have the first clue what goes on behind those bars on a daily basis and that culture.
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3:27p, 6/6/26
If he were to take the stand, could the prosecution ask him about prior events? Was he caught with a knife in school? Has he ever been suspended for fighting? Pictures holding the AK (if real). Etc.
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In reply to Aggie Jurist • 3:27p, 6/6/26
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I think the defense lost on the jury selection. If the one person didnt say "I couldn't put a brother behind bars" and got on the jury it would be different. Props for honesty I guess



If they don't already exist, I could see community service groups teaching citizens how to avoid disqualifying themselves. The "get the vote out" organizers will transition to "protect our own" jury duty advocates.

That wasn't honesty. That was "I don't want to serve and I know a quick way to get struck."


I don't think we should force people to serve when they don't want to. You're pretty much guaranteeing you're not going to get a fair trial when people are pissed they have to be there.
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3:27p, 6/6/26
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I'm preparing myself for the response to a guilty verdict being people in the Anthony camp saying he never had a shot at a fair trial because his racist white attorney never even tried to get him off.
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In reply to A Net Full of Jello • 3:30p, 6/6/26
I've DEFINITELY seen news video from soon after the murder where kids that went to school with him said he was always fighting, but they "never" thought he'd kill somebody
If he takes the stand, he's going to get his skull kicked in by prosecution
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In reply to DannyDuberstein • 3:30p, 6/6/26
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DannyDuberstein said:
I think they'll bring out those guns on the sentence. But they have no relevance to the incident for guilt/innocence.

Could they come in if...
Defense calls a character witness... Prosecution goes and then finds where said character witness "liked" or commented on social media posts that contract the Sunday School allstar testimony?
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In reply to Gaeilge • 3:31p, 6/6/26
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Gaeilge said:
If he were to take the stand, could the prosecution ask him about prior events? Was he caught with a knife in school? Has he ever been suspended for fighting? Pictures holding the AK (if real). Etc.

Yes. It is open season for his entire life if he stakes the stand.

I don't recall any prosecution witness that testified as to Anthony's disciplinary record at school. And the judge wouldn't too inclined to allow that prior act evidence in during the state's case in chief.

BUT, Anthony takes the stand? That can come in during cross examination and a potential rebuttal presentation after the defense rests.
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In reply to Got a Natty! • 3:33p, 6/6/26
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FriscoKid said:


Defense doesn't know what they want to do next? Really?


They know exactly what they want to do. They want to keep their client off the witness stand. So one last time they are talking him out of testifying.

When court resumes the judge will ask defendant if he wishes to waive his 5th Amendment right and testify. If he says "yes" then it is against his lawyers advice. But that happens fairly often. Especially with young black clients.
If he does testify that rarely works out well for him.


Honestly, what could it hurt to have him testify at this point? He might be able to get some sympathy points that could at least help get a lighter sentence. If he doesn't testify, he's still probably guilty.
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3:34p, 6/6/26
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He's done
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In reply to A Net Full of Jello • 3:35p, 6/6/26
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A Net Full of Jello said:
ErnestEndeavor said:
Got a Natty! said:
I'm thinking the defense will call no one. Jury will come back Monday for closing arguments.


In a self-defense case a lot rides on what the defendant was thinking and perceiving in the moment. This isn't a situation where there was some sort of obvious fear of death or significant body injury that the jury would be able to surmise on their own.

Very difficult to make an argument along those lines in this particular circumstance unless the defendant testifies.

I wonder if their plan might be to get a few friends and family of Karmelo to testify that he was never violent and would have absolutely never killed anyone unless he really honestly and truly feared for his life.

Of course, if it comes out in cross-examination that Karmelo has been in fights and isn't the A+ Boy Scout who was on his way to Harvard Medical School but only after serving a mission trip deworming orphans in third-world countries... that will work against the only defense I think they can try.


That's what I alluded to above. If someone testified that he was never aggressive, in trouble before, had never been violent before, that opens the door wide so that any prior misconduct of his would now become admissible. If there is such prior conduct, and my guess there will be such prior bad conduct noted in his school records or in police reports, that will keep him off the stand.

I'm pretty sure Tony Shook does not take court appointed cases any more so I think he was appointed, with an agreement of more than normal pay, so he might be able to handle the family and their "advisors".

I have an attorney friend who is working on a case with Toby now. I'll be interested to hear some of the back story when I next see my friend.
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In reply to FriscoKid • 3:37p, 6/6/26
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FriscoKid said:


Yeah, looks like they are trying to wrap it up today. That seems really fast.


Damn, that is so heartbreaking.

Edit: not the wrapping it up, the X post.
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In reply to AustinAg2K • 3:37p, 6/6/26
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AustinAg2K said:
Aggie Jurist said:
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Z3phyr said:
I think the defense lost on the jury selection. If the one person didnt say "I couldn't put a brother behind bars" and got on the jury it would be different. Props for honesty I guess



If they don't already exist, I could see community service groups teaching citizens how to avoid disqualifying themselves. The "get the vote out" organizers will transition to "protect our own" jury duty advocates.

That wasn't honesty. That was "I don't want to serve and I know a quick way to get struck."


I don't think we should force people to serve when they don't want to. You're pretty much guaranteeing you're not going to get a fair trial when people are pissed they have to be there.

That's another version of the government service paradox - you don't really want the kind of people who want to be a juror because they're seeking power & control over the accused to actually be a juror. Just like you don't want those who seek power to represent you in an elected office but they're the only people that are interested in running.

Or not, what the heck do I know...
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3:47p, 6/6/26
If he takes the stand, let him ramble a bit and then dismiss him.

Dude is as dumb as a box of rocks.
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In reply to AustinAg2K • 3:51p, 6/6/26
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He will testify at the punishment phase. And that may not benefit him at that stage either.
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3:53p, 6/6/26
Tony Shook is too smart than to put his client on the stand.

Not sure what he plans on doing, though. Maybe there are other witnesses who will testify the twins were a lot more aggressive than has been testified so far.
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In reply to 5Amp • 3:55p, 6/6/26
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5Amp said:
If he takes the stand, let him ramble a bit and then dismiss him.

Dude is as dumb as a box of rocks.


That sounds about as smart a move as the defense attorney would make...

Hell no you dont just let him off the stand as the prosecution, you hammer his past actions, past actions requiring punishment whether from the school or outside, social media showing weapons hes too young to even own, gang signs, fighting and especially being suspended for having a knife in school already. You introduce everything now and you can use it again in closing arguments against his character that defense tries to portray him as an angel.
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3:56p, 6/6/26
Wow, this testimony is damning.



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Prosecutor Bill Wirskye: "Once he gets mad, what happens?"
Witness: "He says, 'You're not going to move me. You're a b*tch."

Prosecutor Bill Wirskye: "Was Austin starting to get mad?"
Witness: "He was getting defensive someone we didn't know was in the tent. He's always leading. He's always protecting us."

Prosecutor Bill Wirskye: "After that?"
Witness: "Karmelo said you'll have to move me. Austin put his hand on his back. I saw Karmelo's hand go in the backpack. We're at a track meet. I wouldn't expect anything to be in there. Karmelo said, 'Touch me. You'll have to move me, and find out,' trying to provoke him.'"

Prosecutor Bill Wirskye: "Then what happens?"
Witness: "Austin puts his hand on him and falls back."
Prosecutor Bill Wirskye: "

Prosecutor Bill Wirskye: "How was Austin trying to move him?"
Witness: "It was him trying to move him off his seat. A soft shove."

Prosecutor Bill Wirskye: "What did Austin do?"
Witness: "I see the hole in his chest and blood. He starts screaming for help."

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In reply to 5Amp • 3:57p, 6/6/26
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5Amp said:
If he takes the stand, let him ramble a bit and then dismiss him.

Dude is as dumb as a box of rocks.

As a Geologist, I must officially go on record saying that is an entirely unnecessary insult to a perfectly fine box of rocks.
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3:58p, 6/6/26
So many race baiters on X

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3:58p, 6/6/26
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This murder was already sad enough, but it's even worse after reading the witness testimony. It seems that everyone involved (except the killer) was overwhelmingly reasonable during the incident. I thought we might see that the interaction had even a slightly grey area to it, but nope, not even close. It seems clear to me that he showed up wanting to kill someone with the stupid idea that it would be acceptable if he could provoke someone into touching him.
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In reply to FatZilla • 3:59p, 6/6/26
The prosecution only gets to bring up those past actions if the door is opened.

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4:00p, 6/6/26
So defense has started. Coaches from Karnelos school are testifying they didn't have the tent exclusivity rule at their school.
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In reply to Kenneth_2003 • 4:01p, 6/6/26
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Kenneth_2003 said:
5Amp said:
If he takes the stand, let him ramble a bit and then dismiss him.

Dude is as dumb as a box of rocks.

As a Geologist, I must officially go on record saying that is an entirely unnecessary insult to a perfectly fine box of rocks.

Hey Bert

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In reply to fc2112 • 4:01p, 6/6/26
Smart move by the defense lawyers. Keep pushing that tent red herring

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In reply to fc2112 • 4:02p, 6/6/26
fc2112 said:
So many race baiters on X

What a piece of human feces.
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In reply to fc2112 • 4:06p, 6/6/26
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there is a whole bunch of stupid as well has people trying to stir the pot out there
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In reply to fc2112 • 4:10p, 6/6/26
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This is so dumb. There were other black kids in the tent from Austin's team. They weren't asked to leave…
"I did nothing. I did absolutely nothing, and it was everything that I thought it could be."
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4:13p, 6/6/26
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Quote:
"Why was Austin Metcalf trying enforce Jim Crow seating arrangements against an innocent Black teen in a tent Metcalf had no authority over?"

Pointing out the obvious: weren't several of AM's teammates/friends (now witnesses) black that were sitting under the tent with him?

Didn't see the post above....
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4:14p, 6/6/26
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Completely outside of this case, I'm interested in the legal interpretation of temporary occupation of personal spaces in public areas. For example, if you set up a tent on Bureau of Land Management Public Land, you don't technically have any right to the space anymore than anyone else; but I think any reasonable person would understand that someone trying to get into your tent would be a form of trespassing. It seems that there would be a legal standard that has been set for such situations.
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