TX Special Session Rumor: Abbott to Insert Redistricting of U.S. House Districts

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Ag87H2O said:

YouBet said:

I hope Republicans rig the **** out of this. Democrats are hypocritical masters at this and will never stop doing it so fight fire with fire. Since Texas and Florida are the only bulwarks keeping this country normal, they need to be fortress states.

Ignore the far left crying over this. They have already ruined California, New York, Illinois, Minnesota, Washington, and Oregon. Rig it so they can't ever get elected again, here.

Democrats always scream the loudest when Republicans start using the left's tactics against them.

Their wailing and gnashing of teeth is a dead giveaway that you're doing something they've been doing for a long time.

Read Rules for Radicals. Remember that there was once such a thing as Radical Republicans. Add 2 and 2 together.

Make the Dems live up to the rules they made.
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Ag with kids said:

t - cam said:

Redistricting for the sake of gaining seats is anti democracy. Not sure what breaking quorum does long term but this power grab should be looked down upon by anyone who votes. The seats are supposed to rep the public.

Says the poster that didn't call out California, Illinois, or New York...ALL OF WHICH are much more gerrymandered.

CA is 83%-17% Dem
IL is 82%-18% Dem
NY is 76%-24% Dem


All three states voted between 54% and 58% Dem in the last POTUS election...

So...you DO agree that those three Democratic run states are ANTI-DEMOCRACY, right?

Or...how about Maryland...they're 87.5% Dem even though Harris only garnered 62% of the vote.



All of those states redistricted on the heels of new census data. Every 10 years.

While all states utilize the updated census as a means to gerrymander this out of the blue update is beyond corrupt.


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A Democrat will look you straight in the face and say this looks fine:



And then tell you this is gerrymandering:

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fc2112 said:

A Democrat will look you straight in the face and say this looks fine:



And then tell you this is gerrymandering:



Of course they'll look you straight in the face and tell you that's fine. They're liars. It's in the democrat DNA. It's all they do because they're ideas suck.
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t - cam said:

Ag with kids said:

t - cam said:

Redistricting for the sake of gaining seats is anti democracy. Not sure what breaking quorum does long term but this power grab should be looked down upon by anyone who votes. The seats are supposed to rep the public.

Says the poster that didn't call out California, Illinois, or New York...ALL OF WHICH are much more gerrymandered.

CA is 83%-17% Dem
IL is 82%-18% Dem
NY is 76%-24% Dem


All three states voted between 54% and 58% Dem in the last POTUS election...

So...you DO agree that those three Democratic run states are ANTI-DEMOCRACY, right?

Or...how about Maryland...they're 87.5% Dem even though Harris only garnered 62% of the vote.



All of those states redistricted on the heels of new census data. Every 10 years.

While all states utilize the updated census as a means to gerrymander this out of the blue update is beyond corrupt.




A state has the right to change the map whenever they wish.

The last census count, by the way, mistakenly favored the blue states over the red states. So the whole process was corrupted to the advantage of California, New York and Illinois at the expense of Republican states that are growing due to the fact they are not run by people who get their economic policies from Mao Zedong and Enver Hoxha.

If Texas is in the wrong, and they are not, then at least be consistent and call out the states who did exactly the same thing in advance of the 2024 election.

Ag with kids
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t - cam said:

Ag with kids said:

t - cam said:

Redistricting for the sake of gaining seats is anti democracy. Not sure what breaking quorum does long term but this power grab should be looked down upon by anyone who votes. The seats are supposed to rep the public.

Says the poster that didn't call out California, Illinois, or New York...ALL OF WHICH are much more gerrymandered.

CA is 83%-17% Dem
IL is 82%-18% Dem
NY is 76%-24% Dem


All three states voted between 54% and 58% Dem in the last POTUS election...

So...you DO agree that those three Democratic run states are ANTI-DEMOCRACY, right?

Or...how about Maryland...they're 87.5% Dem even though Harris only garnered 62% of the vote.



All of those states redistricted on the heels of new census data. Every 10 years.

While all states utilize the updated census as a means to gerrymander this out of the blue update is beyond corrupt.



Doesn't matter when those states did it if they did a massively partisan gerrymander...

Which they did...

This is typical of the left. Do something corrupt, and then when right attempts to do the same thing, y'all scream THIS CORRUPTION MUST STOP!!!!

Fix your **** first...then we can talk about if this is bad.

BTW, the last redistricting in NY occurred in 2024...
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t - cam said:

Ag with kids said:

t - cam said:

Redistricting for the sake of gaining seats is anti democracy. Not sure what breaking quorum does long term but this power grab should be looked down upon by anyone who votes. The seats are supposed to rep the public.

Says the poster that didn't call out California, Illinois, or New York...ALL OF WHICH are much more gerrymandered.

CA is 83%-17% Dem
IL is 82%-18% Dem
NY is 76%-24% Dem


All three states voted between 54% and 58% Dem in the last POTUS election...

So...you DO agree that those three Democratic run states are ANTI-DEMOCRACY, right?

Or...how about Maryland...they're 87.5% Dem even though Harris only garnered 62% of the vote.



All of those states redistricted on the heels of new census data. Every 10 years.

While all states utilize the updated census as a means to gerrymander this out of the blue update is beyond corrupt.



So you're fine with brazen political gerrymandering as long as it happens in 10 year increments?
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Teslag said:

t - cam said:

Ag with kids said:

t - cam said:

Redistricting for the sake of gaining seats is anti democracy. Not sure what breaking quorum does long term but this power grab should be looked down upon by anyone who votes. The seats are supposed to rep the public.

Says the poster that didn't call out California, Illinois, or New York...ALL OF WHICH are much more gerrymandered.

CA is 83%-17% Dem
IL is 82%-18% Dem
NY is 76%-24% Dem


All three states voted between 54% and 58% Dem in the last POTUS election...

So...you DO agree that those three Democratic run states are ANTI-DEMOCRACY, right?

Or...how about Maryland...they're 87.5% Dem even though Harris only garnered 62% of the vote.



All of those states redistricted on the heels of new census data. Every 10 years.

While all states utilize the updated census as a means to gerrymander this out of the blue update is beyond corrupt.



So you're fine with brazen political gerrymandering as long as it happens in 10 year increments?

Yep...

It's perfectly OK because we got some new data - that we will not use in any way to determine the new districts.
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And states can get new data any number of ways, not reliant on the federal census, such as property taxes, building permits, income tax filings, etc.
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Alex stein doing work at the Texas Special sesson lol
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Bottom line is there's no federal law or constitutional prohibition preventing states from redistricting as frequently as they want. In 2023 Alabama, Louisiana, North Carolina, and New York before the 2024 election so the democrats could gain five seats.
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t - cam said:

Ag with kids said:

t - cam said:

Redistricting for the sake of gaining seats is anti democracy. Not sure what breaking quorum does long term but this power grab should be looked down upon by anyone who votes. The seats are supposed to rep the public.

Says the poster that didn't call out California, Illinois, or New York...ALL OF WHICH are much more gerrymandered.

CA is 83%-17% Dem
IL is 82%-18% Dem
NY is 76%-24% Dem


All three states voted between 54% and 58% Dem in the last POTUS election...

So...you DO agree that those three Democratic run states are ANTI-DEMOCRACY, right?

Or...how about Maryland...they're 87.5% Dem even though Harris only garnered 62% of the vote.



All of those states redistricted on the heels of new census data. Every 10 years.

While all states utilize the updated census as a means to gerrymander this out of the blue update is beyond corrupt.




So you can be anti-democracy - your words - if you do it at the right time!!!

LOLOLOL
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t - cam said:

of those states redistricted on the heels of new census data. Every 10 years.

While all states utilize the updated census as a means to gerrymander this out of the blue update is beyond corrupt.


I think NY gerrymandered in 2024.

And the census data was wrong and later corrected. Texas lost representation because of it.
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Dems have long led the way in gerrymandering in their favor and saying they did it for the voters, calling it equality, equity.

What is funny here is that they are sticking to shenanigans and not resorting to legal tactics such as lawsuits, civil rights violations.

They are not talking about what was unfair or unlawful about the process and result, just that they don't like the result and will do everything they can to prevent the result being implemented.

They have lost this round and expect them to become more and more desperate.
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Ellis Wyatt said:

t - cam said:

of those states redistricted on the heels of new census data. Every 10 years.

While all states utilize the updated census as a means to gerrymander this out of the blue update is beyond corrupt.


I think NY gerrymandered in 2024.

And the census data was wrong and later corrected. Texas lost representation because of it.


That was court ordered.
The reality is gerrymandering sucks at any point and I don't think anyone agrees with it from a democratic perspective. Politicians choosing their voters is an issue. The reality is if you want to win more seats, make policies that appeal to more people.

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Oh no, we might not be able to certify in 2028!
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You should have the left drop all lawsuits over restricting as gerrymandering is often the result of legal actions saying the districts discriminate.

What New York did in response to court actions is similar to what Rs have done here. They are just cleaning things up on their own to reflect demographic and voter preference changes in Texas.
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Districts in TX obviously need to be fixed. All 4 of the below 2 from TX, and other states are ridiculous as well.





And then gerrymander in other states....

Maryland


Illinois

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So why are democrats nationwide so enraged that Texas is now doing what California, Illinois, New Yoirk, Maryland, Massachusetts, and others have already done?

I'll tell you why.

They have the ball at the two yard line. If they can turn Texas, they ensure uninerrupted democrat rule for decades to come... It's completetion of a plan that has been in motion for some time now.

The last administration's actions were a siginificant trigger in the strategic geographic placement of over 10 million immigrants who - regardless of whether or not they vote - will count toward census-based determination of congressional disticts in 2030. We still don't know what exactly that will look like in Texas, but I bet the democrat architects of the plan do.

It is my belief that the vast majority of illegal immigratnts throughout the country are in highly populated, democrat strongholds. New census numbers move more congressional seats to those locations. Though they deny it, we all know that Great Replacement Theory is very real, and it is in mid-implementation.

So they think they have Texas positioned to wake up in 2031 and "turn blue", thereby completing the plan. The current redistricting plan thwarts that plan. Thus the nationwide hysterics we're currently seeing.

This has never been about Congressional Dems losing power, it's about them not being able to permanenty cement it.
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Well there's Gerrymandering and there's redistricting. One is blatant manipulation and other is common sense.
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Democrats have used the ability to require 'pre-clearance' for redistricting in red states in the South, to hold Republican-majority states hostage to make comparatively absurd maps with many 'majority minority' (Dem) districts, while Dem states have freely redistricted to maximize their partisan (again, Dem) advantage for decades. Losing that since pre-clearance is no longer required (since 2019), after much lawfare post-2020 census in the southern States, is what is driving them insane.

It's only via (a) pre-clearance, (b) fake census figures, (c) counting illegals in blue states, and (d) complete political gerrymandering in blue states (IL/NY/CA/WI etc), that they have kept the House competitive for them (well, and mail in voting fraud in commie states). This is an existential threat, in other words, and their only hope is to stall now in the hopes of retaking the Presidency for the 2030 census.
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#truth
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nortex97 said:

Oh no, we might not be able to certify in 2028!


Eric Holder is a marxist and has been in the middle of several scandals against the American people. **** him.
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nortex97 said:

Democrats have used the ability to require 'pre-clearance' for redistricting in red states in the South, to hold Republican-majority states hostage to make comparatively absurd maps with many 'majority minority' (Dem) districts, while Dem states have freely redistricted to maximize their partisan (again, Dem) advantage for decades. Losing that since pre-clearance is no longer required (since 2019), after much lawfare post-2020 census in the southern States, is what is driving them insane.

It's only via (a) pre-clearance, (b) fake census figures, (c) counting illegals in blue states, and (d) complete political gerrymandering in blue states (IL/NY/CA/WI etc), that they have kept the House competitive for them (well, and mail in voting fraud in commie states). This is an existential threat, in other words, and their only hope is to stall now in the hopes of retaking the Presidency for the 2030 census.

Eric Holder has been a huge driving force in this. He has worked to deny republicans representation, using race as a cudgel.

And lets not forget that he defended the Black Panthers who stood outside polling places with clubs in Pennsylvania.

He's a racist and a marxist.
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You mean 2013, not 2019, right?
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will25u said:

Districts in TX obviously need to be fixed. All 4 of the below 2 from TX, and other states are ridiculous as well.





And then gerrymander in other states....

Maryland


Illinois




All of these are a slap in the face of the voting public. Hopefully the recent outrage leads to a different system. The whole thing stinks.

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Quote:

All of these are a slap in the face of the voting public. Hopefully the recent outrage leads to a different system. The whole thing stinks.

Funny that you've never had a thing to say until the republicans want to do what democrats have always done.

The recent outrage is by white leftists, furious that minorities are bailing from the democrat party because democrats love the third world and foreigners more than they care to lift a finger for Americans.
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Logos Stick said:

You mean 2013, not 2019, right?

I couldn't remember, you are probably/almost certainly correct.
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t - cam said:

Ellis Wyatt said:

t - cam said:

of those states redistricted on the heels of new census data. Every 10 years.

While all states utilize the updated census as a means to gerrymander this out of the blue update is beyond corrupt.



I think NY gerrymandered in 2024.

And the census data was wrong and later corrected. Texas lost representation because of it.


That was court ordered.
The reality is gerrymandering sucks at any point and I don't think anyone agrees with it from a democratic perspective. Politicians choosing their voters is an issue. The reality is if you want to win more seats, make policies that appeal to more people.


Then why do they keep doing it year after year?
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Teslag said:

t - cam said:

Ellis Wyatt said:

t - cam said:

of those states redistricted on the heels of new census data. Every 10 years.

While all states utilize the updated census as a means to gerrymander this out of the blue update is beyond corrupt.



I think NY gerrymandered in 2024.

And the census data was wrong and later corrected. Texas lost representation because of it.


That was court ordered.
The reality is gerrymandering sucks at any point and I don't think anyone agrees with it from a democratic perspective. Politicians choosing their voters is an issue. The reality is if you want to win more seats, make policies that appeal to more people.


Then why do they keep doing it year after year?

Because it often takes several iterations to get one that a judge will sign off on.
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jrdaustin said:


It is my belief that the vast majority of illegal immigratnts throughout the country are in highly populated, democrat strongholds. New census numbers move more congressional seats to those locations. Though they deny it, we all know that Great Replacement Theory is very real, and it is in mid-implementation.

This is the reason for unlimited illegal immigration by the dems.
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HTownAg98 said:

Teslag said:

t - cam said:

Ellis Wyatt said:

t - cam said:

of those states redistricted on the heels of new census data. Every 10 years.

While all states utilize the updated census as a means to gerrymander this out of the blue update is beyond corrupt.



I think NY gerrymandered in 2024.

And the census data was wrong and later corrected. Texas lost representation because of it.


That was court ordered.
The reality is gerrymandering sucks at any point and I don't think anyone agrees with it from a democratic perspective. Politicians choosing their voters is an issue. The reality is if you want to win more seats, make policies that appeal to more people.


Then why do they keep doing it year after year?

Because it often takes several iterations to get one that a judge will sign off on.

So, because they cheat too much that even the judges can't let it pass?
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The entire Sanctuary City movement was 100% about long-term control of the house IMO. The ruse of caring about those poor migrants (lol) and their human rights was and is one more example of so many, of how Democrats must lie and cheat to hold and gain more power.

There is no end to what they will do to our country and people to satisfy their lust for power. How any person and especially educated Aggies can't realize they are just useful idiots to the Dems, is beyond me.


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The Chicago "earmuffs" district is drawn that way in order to unite two separate Hispanic neighborhoods into one district to ensure that they get a Representative.

If we want nice-looking districts, we need to incentivize each racial minority in each major city to live in one designated area. Ideally, make it rectangular to make things maximally easy for the map-drawers.

Or we could just repeal the VRA's requirement for majority-minority districts so non-White candidates actually have to compete.
 
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