TX Special Session Rumor: Abbott to Insert Redistricting of U.S. House Districts

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California has so much work to do to even get the opportunity to redistrict that their discussion is laughable.

They literally have to have a statewide vote to change their state constitution to allow for redistricting. Then, they have to go through their mechanisms to redistrict. They use a committee and not the state leg.

All of the California talk is pure bluffing. Only the simple minded think a California redistricting is a lock.
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The purpose of the special election (which has been approved) is to bypass the commission and let the legislature redistrict, and yes it will easily pass. Those of y'all on here that think that this is not going to happen are kidding yourselves.
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will25u said:



Of course they did. The dems probably told their boy Burrows to make sure he got his people in line to avoid punishing them.
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One day you people are gonna learn the problems not the Democrats. It's the idiot Republicans that go along with it. That's what the problem is.
"We're going to turn this red Prius into a soup kitchen!"
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Dirty_Mike&the_boys said:

One day you people are gonna learn the problems not the Democrats. It's the idiot Republicans that go along with it. That's what the problem is.

They had no power to penalize them. The members agreed to rules. The only rules that were enforceable were the fines, which totaled up to $10K per member. That is why they are putting new rules and restrictions in place in case the Dems do it again.

And I told y'all nothing would happen.
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Charpie said:

Dirty_Mike&the_boys said:

One day you people are gonna learn the problems not the Democrats. It's the idiot Republicans that go along with it. That's what the problem is.

They had no power to penalize them. The members agreed to rules. The only rules that were enforceable were the fines, which totaled up to $10K per member. That is why they are putting new rules and restrictions in place in case the Dems do it again.

And I told y'all nothing would happen.

Rather than putting new rules and fines in place, I would rather see them change quorum to be defined as 50%+1.
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Thread. And there it is, the slimy wording of the ballot initiative.


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1st one is more voter suppression.
What's the 2nd one about?

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t - cam said:

1st one is more voter suppression.
What's the 2nd one about?


Rather than lying about the 1st, you could have read the post immediately above yours to learn about the 2nd
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t - cam said:

1st one is more voter suppression.
What's the 2nd one about?

Eliminating chances for fraud and voter suppression really are one and the same for dems aren't they?
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I read it but I guess I don't get how they're related.

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t - cam said:

I read it but I guess I don't get how they're related.


Who said they were related?
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t - cam said:

1st one is more voter suppression.
What's the 2nd one about?


You came back to this thread again to interrupt the adults?
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Republicans were in on it from the start. How do you think a poster here knew when the democrats were coming back? The whole thing was contrived. It was all planned.
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Ellis Wyatt said:

Republicans were in on it from the start. How do you think a poster here knew when the democrats were coming back? The whole thing was contrived. It was all planned.

It always is. These guys are more tied to the hip than y'all realize.
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Charpie said:

Ellis Wyatt said:

Republicans were in on it from the start. How do you think a poster here knew when the democrats were coming back? The whole thing was contrived. It was all planned.

It always is. These guys are more tied to the hip than y'all realize.

Not more than I realize.

I am well aware that the republican leadership are just cosplayers fighting for the uniparty.
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After the Speaker election, everyone is well aware of how closely a good portion of the Republican caucus is tied to the Democrats. In fact, they work more closely with the Democrats than they do with the Republicans. It allows the Democrats as the minority Party to have as much control in the House as the Republicans, and it's wrong.
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Control? Doesn't having control mean you're getting your way?

Other than wasting a session and not being punished, what exactly have the Democrats gotten?
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Charpie said:

Control? Doesn't having control mean you're getting your way?

Other than wasting a session and not being punished, what exactly have the Democrats gotten?

They got to slow down, water down, and in some cases stall Republican initiatives. They got their man in as Speaker and vice chairmanships of the committees with virtually the same authority as the chairs. There are a thousand ways to use that power to influence and control how bills flow through the process, and whether or not they ultimately pass or fail. I'm not even talking so much about the big, well known bills. There are thousands of bills filed that don't get the publicity but would still have big impacts on Texans.
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Charpie said:

Control? Doesn't having control mean you're getting your way?

Other than wasting a session and not being punished, what exactly have the Democrats gotten?


A good example today. Eliminating TAAS test and moving the new one to the oversight of the TEA (lefty teacher organization) and out of the hands of the elected state board of education.

Straight out of the Dem Cali and Illinois playbooks.
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STAAR Test replaced TAAS years ago and it is eating kids lunches. They still teach to the test so it's better to break it up throughout the year.
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There were dems who did not go who could report to their buddy, the Speaker. Those dems had to be in the liberal loop
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Lots of Special Ed students take those tests too and don't score that well, which lowers STAAR averages. I'm a SPED teacher.
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And a conservative!
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And lots of parents opt out of the test. Which also hurts the scores for a campus or district. It all sucks.
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Not sure if it's true but heard the new map may have created quite a few new swing seats.

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t - cam said:

Not sure if it's true but heard the new map may have created quite a few new swing seats.


Heard the same
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t - cam said:

Not sure if it's true but heard the new map may have created quite a few new swing seats.


I don't think that's the case. If you have a source, I'd love to look at it.

If any swing districts were created, it's from former Democrat leans.

Here is what the new districts would have looked like in 2024. Let's say a margin of 20 or less makes it a swing district (I don't agree, but to be generous with the definition)

1: Trump +49.5
2: Trump +21.9
3: Trump +23.3
4: Trump +24.6
5: Trump +21.5
6: Trump +23
7: Harris +24
8: Trump +25.2
9: Trump +15.2 (Al Green)
10: Trump +22.6
11: Trump +34.3
12: Trump +23.8
13: Trump +46.1
14: Trump +28.2
15: Trump +17.9 (De La Cruz)
16: Harris +16.3 (Escobar)
17: Trump +21.4
18: Harris +54.1
19: Trump +51.6
20: Harris +28.5
21: Trump +21.7
22: Trump +20.7
23: Trump +15 (Gonzales)
24: Trump +16.1 (Van Duyne)
25: Trump +24
26: Trump +23.8
27: Trump +21.3
28: Trump +10.4 (Cuellar)
29: Harris +29.7
30: Harris +47
31: Trump +21.8
32: Trump +17.7
33: Harris +32.6
34: Trump +10.1 (Gonzalez)
36: Trump +33.6
37: Harris +56.2
38: Trump +20.4

Here's what happened in the actual races in 2024 from the new potential "swing" districts

TX-9 was +44 Harris. So it went from solid Dem to swing, lean GOP.

Delacruz won TX-15 by 14. It's more GOP in new map

Escobar won TX-16 by 19. It's now less Dem.

Gonzales won TX-23 by 11 (3 candidates). It's now slightly more GOP

Van Duyne won TX-24 by 19. So it looks like this one might be a little bit less GOP. Based on my out of the area, I would not call the new map "swing." Far from it. But I would refer to someone from the area on that.

TX-28 & TX-34 went Trump president but Democrat Congress. So they were already swing districts (for 1 election) but now drawn more GOP

The only question to me is whether these South Texas is the districts are actually moving Republican or if it was just a Trump effect. If it's the latter, then it just reverts back. There was no "new" swing district created.


Source on how the new districts would have voted in 2024:

https://www.texastribune.org/2025/07/30/texas-redistricting-congressional-maps-house-republicans/#:~:text=In%20the%20Houston%20area%2C%20the,have%20won%20it%20by%2015%25.

Sq 17
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Useful info the districts that have names following them are those that ones that are most changed.

How many districts did Trump carry but elected a D to congress
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i believe just the 2 I listed
 
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