Holy cow! We drove over that bridge this morning and didn't think there was a chance is was going to reach the bridge!
Kerrville/Guadalupe
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TXAG 05 said:htownag10 said:
Report just came out that the Guadalupe River is expected to reach flood stage 37 ft by 2 am at Spring Branch. It will likely cover 281. The crest is expected to be 10 ft higher than '98
Yikes. I'm from New Braunfels and still have vivid memories of the 98 flood. This is just beyond imagination.
Same here. If you are in spring branch near the river gtfo.
Parents live on Canyon Lake and they just drove up 281 just south of Spring Branch and the river was slightly up, but nothing noticeable. They are going to try to set up a Timelapse camera of the lake tonight to see how quickly it rises/fills up.
Anyone seeing what they're expecting to happen at Canyon Lake? I know Buchanan is expected to fill to normal pool, and Travis will rise about 7'-8'.
Isn't the lake about 45% full? Bc it's about to be 90-100%. It can catch a lot of water.
HTownAg98 said:
Anyone seeing what they're expecting to happen at Canyon Lake? I know Buchanan is expected to fill to normal pool, and Travis will rise about 7'-8'.
Canyon Lake and Lake Buchanan are about to catch a whole lot of water. Travis will get less but more than its gotten in a really long time.
Not seeing that high of predications, bur regardless plenty of water everywhere right now.
The guy on KSAT12 is saying it was under water at a 27' stage in the previous flood. If they rebuilt it higher since then, he is apparently not aware of it.Doc Hayworth said:
The new bridge on 281 over the Guadalupe River is 70' above normal flows. I can't see the river getting up high enough to go over that bridge.
I may be wrong, but I just googled the height of that bridge and that's the height it gave me.
Yes, lowest I've ever seen it by about 15 ft. Haven't been able to get the boat in the water for almost 2 years due to all nearby ramps being closed.riverrataggie said:
Isn't the lake about 45% full? Bc it's about to be 90-100%. It can catch a lot of water.
Yeah I'm trying to see where KSAT got their info from. I can't find anything on the height of the bridge.
He is wrong. It crested at just over 27' in 1998 at Spring Branch. No where near even height of the old south bound bridge.
In 1978 it crested at 45.25' at Spring Branch and reached the bottom of the old bridge. I saw it.
It got even higher downstream because lots of creeks and streams were flooding in the area downstream from the 281 bridge.
They gave a good estimate of 51' at Rebecca Creek crossing.
In 1978 it crested at 45.25' at Spring Branch and reached the bottom of the old bridge. I saw it.
It got even higher downstream because lots of creeks and streams were flooding in the area downstream from the 281 bridge.
They gave a good estimate of 51' at Rebecca Creek crossing.
I drive over that bridge all the time and know that 70' looks about right. If the river rises 30' it still won't be half way to the bridge. The new bridge was completed just a few years ago. It's basically the same height as the old steel truss bridge that is still there on the west side.
I'm just saying if the river does go over the bridge on 281, the river will have to crest at least 70' above normal flowss
I understand your statement. Weather channel just reported the river may reach the 281 bridge overnight. I guess I'm confused with the bridge height and the crest elevation.
I'm just saying if the river does go over the bridge on 281, the river will have to crest at least 70' above normal flowss
I understand your statement. Weather channel just reported the river may reach the 281 bridge overnight. I guess I'm confused with the bridge height and the crest elevation.
Cromagnum said:HTownAg98 said:
Anyone seeing what they're expecting to happen at Canyon Lake? I know Buchanan is expected to fill to normal pool, and Travis will rise about 7'-8'.
Canyon Lake and Lake Buchanan are about to catch a whole lot of water. Travis will get less but more than its gotten in a really long time.
Thankfully Canyon is so low right now. It will be able to take in a lot of this and keep everything down river from getting hit too bad.
I don't see how it can be that high.Doc Hayworth said:
The new bridge on 281 over the Guadalupe River is 70' above normal flows. I can't see the river getting up high enough to go over that bridge.
I may be wrong, but I just googled the height of that bridge and that's the height it gave me.
The old metal bridge is still there and use for southbound traffic I think. I could see 45 ft being possible but KSAT is saying it went under in 98 at 27 ft.
Just spoke to my FIL and BIL who cross that bridge semi-regularly and they agree with the KSAT guy about the height being 25-30 above normal flow. Are you sure you are talking about the same bridge on 281?htownag10 said:
Yeah I'm trying to see where KSAT got their info from. I can't find anything on the height of the bridge.
It won't be over the highway at 281 if it crests at 37 feet. The flood of 1978 crested at 45+ feet and barely went over. The flood of 2002 crested at 44.2 ft and just lapped at the bottom. If you're getting your info from KSAT12 those people have no clue about the Spring Branch area. The weather man Adam Caskey was talking about flooding in our area and said the river will be 10 feet over the bridge and identified an area across 281 from us and just south of the river, The River Crossing sub, and saying if you're in this area you need to think about evacuating because this land slopes toward the river and will easily fill in. The only problem is the land that slopes toward the river is a huge field on the NORTH side of the river, The south bank is a cliff that drops about 50 feet straight down. One of their reporters was on Spring Branch Road and was pointing out a low water crossing and said the water will be over this area sometime tonight. The only problem? The low water crossing was on Spring Branch road but was 3 miles south of the river and about a mile north of HWY46. Then they kept going on SB road and stopped at low water crossing near 281 and showed Spring Branch Creek flowing under the bridge and said before long this will be a roaring stream and unpassable. The problem? Spring Branch creek is a spring fed creek that runs INTO the Guadalupe about a mile south of the low water bridge.UntoldSpirit said:
If the river really crests 37 feet at Spring Branch, it will be way way over the highway at the Guadalupe river bridge on 281. The 281 bridge would seem to be in jeopardy.
Yeah saw that report at the low water crossing and I just had to laugh. Not a lot of intelligence there.
I'm coming to the conclusion that they are just generalizing the info.txags92 said:Just spoke to my FIL and BIL who cross that bridge semi-regularly and they agree with the KSAT guy about the height being 25-30 above normal flow. Are you sure you are talking about the same bridge on 281?htownag10 said:
Yeah I'm trying to see where KSAT got their info from. I can't find anything on the height of the bridge.
Here is their article
https://www.ksat.com/weather/2025/07/04/guadalupe-river-expected-to-flood-spring-branch-area-friday-night/
It all makes sense now haha
Puro San Antonio.
Thank you Rattler12 for posting that. I have been saying that but….. I saw it in 1978. We moved out of our house around 10:00 that night and hauled what we could to Uncles ranch house across the road. We had to lay his fences down to get back to the county road. (Old Rebecca Creek Crossing Road. We drove all the way back to Hwy 46 and then drove to the 281 Bridge. We were up most of the night. I have lots of pictures we took of the place the next day. It was amazing. 200-300 year old Cypress Trees were pulled out and drug down river. Fish were caught in pools up in our fields.
Never forget it. Our shop and barn was 10-12' lower elevation than our house and was totally gone. Had all our wood working saws and tools in it. Not a trace of any of it.
Never forget it. Our shop and barn was 10-12' lower elevation than our house and was totally gone. Had all our wood working saws and tools in it. Not a trace of any of it.
A young couple from our small church and their two young sons have not been heard from. One report says their RV was washed away, apparently the park they were staying in was right on the river. Praying they are all ok, waiting on word.
A friend of mine from high school is still missing as well. He and his wife were vacationing in Kerrville.
Prayers for everyone involved or with family involved
Getting close to 50 ft at the 474 bridge.
He is wrong. It came no where near the 281 bridge in 1998 at 27' feet. In 1978 it crested at 45.25 ft and drift/logs built up at the top of the old metal bridge and caused the water to go across the bridge roadway slightly…I witnessed it that night standing on the roadway by the bridge as we lived downstream from the bridge about 3-4 miles and water was in our house about 4' deep at that time.
Putting an RV park or campground in a flood plain of a Hill Country waterway ought to be a criminal act. It seems like all these floods come in the middle of the night while people are sleeping, and by the time people wake up, it can be too late.
I was on the downstream side of canyon lake in both 1998 and 2002. 1998 was wild to see.
OK. Keep in mind, he is probably using the river gauge that is a bit downstream when he says 27 feet, I think. I believe he is saying that when that gauge was at 27 ft, the water upstream got up to the bridge, I believe. I suppose that doesn't necessarily mean that it was the same level at the 281 bridge.Gunny456 said:
He is wrong. It came no where near the 281 bridge in 1998 at 27' feet. In 1978 it crested at 45.25 ft and drift/logs built up at the top of the old metal bridge and caused the water to go across the bridge roadway slightly…I witnessed it that night standing on the roadway by the bridge as we lived downstream from the bridge about 3-4 miles and water was in our house about 4' deep at that time.
I will take your word for it about the 45 feet, but it may well get that high or higher this time.
FWIW, the level at the FM474 crossing (49.15) is 10' above where it was in 2018. The gauge page for the next gauge down stream at Spring Branch doesn't show the crest elevation from 2018, so no way to compare the two to know what to expect.UntoldSpirit said:OK. Keep in mind, he is probably using the river gauge that is a bit downstream when he says 27 feet, I think. I believe he is saying that when that gauge was at 27 ft, the water upstream got up to the bridge, I believe. I suppose that doesn't necessarily mean that it was the same level at the 281 bridge.Gunny456 said:
He is wrong. It came no where near the 281 bridge in 1998 at 27' feet. In 1978 it crested at 45.25 ft and drift/logs built up at the top of the old metal bridge and caused the water to go across the bridge roadway slightly…I witnessed it that night standing on the roadway by the bridge as we lived downstream from the bridge about 3-4 miles and water was in our house about 4' deep at that time.
I will take your word for it about the 45 feet, but it may well get that high or higher this time.
It also still says 1.65'. That difference seems incredible.
Just like flood on South Llano R in 2018 where RV Park inundated by over night flood, 4 people died. The worst rains always at night, after midnight. That 1 woman in 2018 rode a log 29 miles to Yates Crossing. She survived but was a solid bruise from head to toe.
Catastrophic flooding occurring across portions of the Texas Hill Country this July 4th. The Llano River in Llano, TX is currently (as of 5pm) flowing at over 109,000 cubic feet per second, when 5 hours ago it was about 500. #TXwx @TxStormChasers pic.twitter.com/wLT5pEcG5T
— Clint Hendricks IV (@Clint_wx) July 4, 2025
I missed this broadcast, but that's hilarious. We live just off SBR in Rivermont.Rattler12 said:It won't be over the highway at 281 if it crests at 37 feet. The flood of 1978 crested at 45+ feet and barely went over. The flood of 2002 crested at 44.2 ft and just lapped at the bottom. If you're getting your info from KSAT12 those people have no clue about the Spring Branch area. The weather man Adam Caskey was talking about flooding in our area and said the river will be 10 feet over the bridge and identified an area across 281 from us and just south of the river, The River Crossing sub, and saying if you're in this area you need to think about evacuating because this land slopes toward the river and will easily fill in. The only problem is the land that slopes toward the river is a huge field on the NORTH side of the river, The south bank is a cliff that drops about 50 feet straight down. One of their reporters was on Spring Branch Road and was pointing out a low water crossing and said the water will be over this area sometime tonight. The only problem? The low water crossing was on Spring Branch road but was 3 miles south of the river and about a mile north of HWY46. Then they kept going on SB road and stopped at low water crossing near 281 and showed Spring Branch Creek flowing under the bridge and said before long this will be a roaring stream and unpassable. The problem? Spring Branch creek is a spring fed creek that runs INTO the Guadalupe about a mile south of the low water bridge.UntoldSpirit said:
If the river really crests 37 feet at Spring Branch, it will be way way over the highway at the Guadalupe river bridge on 281. The 281 bridge would seem to be in jeopardy.
Equinox said:Catastrophic flooding occurring across portions of the Texas Hill Country this July 4th. The Llano River in Llano, TX is currently (as of 5pm) flowing at over 109,000 cubic feet per second, when 5 hours ago it was about 500. #TXwx @TxStormChasers pic.twitter.com/wLT5pEcG5T
— Clint Hendricks IV (@Clint_wx) July 4, 2025
I took this back at the end of May. For perspective. We were at the park on the far right side of the bridge at the low water dam.
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