Manchester United 2025-26 Thread

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Dre_00
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Didn't realize that there was a sell on clause in Elanga's transfer to Forest. United are due 15% of any profit made from his sale. Not a very strong clause but that comes out to about 5m GBP or so for United. I guess now Ineos has to only fire 480 people in August instead of an even 500.
Dre_00
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I had to laugh when I read this exactly 5 minutes after reading the Athletic's weekly United transfer summary which they ended with "United have been offered Jamie Vardy, Callum Wilson, and Dominic Calvin-Lewin on frees but would only consider them at the end of the window if they don't get any of the other targets."

Thunder18
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Dre_00 said:

Didn't realize that there was a sell on clause in Elanga's transfer to Forest. United are due 15% of any profit made from his sale. Not a very strong clause but that comes out to about 5m GBP or so for United. I guess now Ineos has to only fire 480 people in August instead of an even 500.


It looks like another former player with a sell- on clause, Alvaro Carerra is also about to be sold to Real Madrid. Sad that this is where all of our transfer funds are coming from so far. We sell off young players with good potential and are stuck with lazy entitled ****s on outrageous wages
Furlock Bones
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The United Way.
Showstopper
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In the club's defense, I'm pretty sure it is the agents trying to link their clients to United. I haven't seen anything where the club have enquired over any.

If we actually got DCL, I would fling feces around the room like a rabid monkey. He doesn't score a lot of goals like our current strikers, and he was only slightly more healthy than Luke Shaw. Oh, and it sounds like he's about as aware of his current wage value as Jadon Sancho.

So basically, he fits us like a glove.
Dre_00
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See you got there in the end. They haven't reached out to any of these strikers representatives...yet. But come August, they will. Oh they will.
Furlock Bones
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you are going to love this. Reports that Spurs are potentially making a move for Yoane Wissa at Brentford. Brentford brass don't want to lose Wissa and Mbeumo in the same window. Sounds like United are either not going to get the deal done or pay more.


Showstopper
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Yeah I think that's noise to get what they want. They have an option, but a lot of times exercising the option also triggers an obligation to share any sell on with the player. This feels like brinksmanship on both sides to me.

Let me put it this way: I really like him a lot. A whole lot. But I think we really need a striker. And Hojlund had one of the worst seasons a striker has had. Like it was Wout Weghorst level just about. I think he had talent, so I hate dumping on him. But it wasn't good. We need a striker. If they thought they could get Ollie Watkins done for like 50M, I'd maybe do that, live with Bruno at right 10, and maybe address other positions like midfield.

I'm just saying, falling in love with transfer targets has cost us in the past. If they really are at their limit, well, it is what it is. But it would be nice to see some decision soon.
Showstopper
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Also, didn't Spurs buy Solanke for 60M last year? And about that much on the Tel kid, who was supposed to at least potentially be a striker?

Yeah, I don't know how much I buy this rumor.

How much do they want for him? Maybe we should buy Wissa this year and buy Mbeumo cheaper next lol. (I like Mbeumo more than Wissa, being an expert from watching some Brentford games lol).
Dre_00
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Spurs buying Kudus for 55m from West Ham (!) likely means they have fully moved on from Mbeumo. Can't remember where I saw it but someone suggested that United might do what Arsenal did with David Raya...sign him on loan and then purchase him for significantly less than what Brentford was asking for. I wouldn't love getting a player in last minute but if you're the only one who has interest (and I think Spurs are officially out of the picture now) and Brentford are holding to their 65m valuation, then it's an understandable strategy.

In any case, will be interesting to see if anyone else shows interest in Mbeumo or if Brentford finally pull the trigger now that Spurs is likely no longer an option.
Showstopper
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You know… it seems like everyone bought from Ajax since ten Hag left them has become really valuable… EXCEPT the ones we bought. (Martinez has been unlucky with the injuries, in fairness; he was good for us before the injuries).
Furlock Bones
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sounds like Spurs put on the feint with Brentford to get West Ham done. Maybe Brentford will wake up now.
Mathguy64
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I hate to break it to everyone but Brentford is going to milk this for every $, GBP, Euro, Drachma and/or piece of gold bullion they can muster out of United. Until we are smart enough and willing enough to walk away from the table over players when other teams play these games, the games will continue.

And Ineos hasn't shown they are any smarter than Woodward/Glazers.
Dre_00
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Mazraoui has been a very good value buy. 15m for him was one of the few good value transfers United has made in the last decade.

As an aside, I think 55m for Kudus is extremely stupid. It's so stupid, it's the kind of move I would have expected United to make. People think Cunha was an overpay but comparatively speaking, he was a steal.

Cunha: 15 G - 6 A; 26y 3m in August; 62m
Kudus: 5G - 3 A; 25y in August; 55m

Everyone knocks Cunha because he overperformed his xG (which is fair) but Kudus overperformed his as well.
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Yeah but that was from Bayern. But if we wanted to go that route… Gravenberch to Liverpool by way of Bayern has probably gone a little better.

Edit: also, like Maguire, de Ligt makes sense as the central CB, which helps deemphasize his flaws imo.

Edit2: on further reflection… this is actually just me complaining about Antony again isn't it? Sorry.
Dre_00
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United signed a forward!

Unfortunately, he's 18 and being loaned out to Ineos's Swiss club. That's at least the 4th or 5th young player they have signed in the last 6-12 months (not counting Yoro). Heaven looks super promising and likely splits time as LCB at the very least while Lisandro is out. Obi has been "meh" in my opinion but door is wide open for him on the first team. Diego Leon is talking like he's going to start opening day at LB against Arsenal (love the confidence but unlikely). Kone seems to be at least a season or two away. If they hit on these, maybe we can get out of these "need 8 players" transfer seasons.
Dre_00
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Showstopper said:


Edit2: on further reflection… this is actually just me complaining about Antony again isn't it? Sorry.
lmao
Showstopper
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Maybe Mbeumo is worth north of 60M pounds. For that matter, maybe Bruno actually is worth 100M.

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Alvaro Fernandes (now Carreras) is Here we go for 50M to Real Madrid. I think our sell on clause gives us around 7-10M.
Thunder18
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All of our incoming funds are coming from sell-on clauses thus far. Really need some team to jump on the Sancho/Rashford/Garnacho grenade for us
Dre_00
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One article said the sell-on clause for Alvaro was 15% and another said 20%. Depending on which one is right, it's roughly 6.5 - 8m coming United's way. Another 5-6m from Elanga's transfer to Newcastle. So about 12-15m in total.

Look at me scrounging for loose sell-on fee change in the couch cushions. Sigh.
Showstopper
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I don't care, but since I brought it up… Forest are challenging the Spurs release clause activation of Gibbs-White as tapping up and breach of the confidentiality clause (although how do teams exercise the clause if they can't know about it? Idk, but idc).

Personally, I think they should take the money. Don't think he's anything special at all. Temu or Wish Bruno, really.
Dre_00
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Read somewhere that Sancho is asking for 200k a week from Juventus in order to play there and they told him no chance.

Hard to know what his current salary is. I'm seeing anywhere between 250-300k a week. I'm guessing closer to 250k after all salaries took a hit when the club didn't make CL. So let's assume that 250k is pretty close to accurate.

Let's be cynical and assume that Sancho is only interested in maximizing his paycheck. Even under that assumption, holding out for 200k is shooting himself in the foot. No one is paying him 250k after his United contract runs out next year. No one is paying him 200k. He might struggle to make 100k if he doesn't play and perform this season.

He'll be 26 next summer. It's not his last chance at a big contract but it's certainly his best chance. I don't know that he'll ever make 250k a week again as it's likely only a half dozen teams in the world would ever consider that wage for any player. But I do know he'll make a lot more in the long run if he takes a 1 year hit in wages and plays well rather than holding on to one more year of his United wages and not playing.

I kind of feel like players tell on themselves a bit when they are in this situation. No one should be obligated to turn down money they are owed. No one forced United into that contract. But for his part, seems like Sancho doesn't want to risk about 5m a year now because he doesn't think he can get it back in his next contract.
Showstopper
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I think he may try to hold out for a loan at the end, run out his contract, and gamble on getting a free agent signing fee. If he is in ice, though, I think he may struggle to get 100-150. And the question is whether the club would really have the stomach to pay him to do nothing.

We have a few too many brinksmanship situations going on right now to be honest.
Dre_00
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How do you pull a hamstring as a goalie when you've been back at training for like 4 days? Ask Andre Onana apparently.

Who's ready for some Bayindir on opening day?
Furlock Bones
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Here we are counting days to the new season. United and Brentford several million pounds apart on Mbuemo.

Some things never change.
Dre_00
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I know they haven't even played their first pre-season game yet and there's still a chance things get better but realistically, there's a high likelihood that this season will be the same as last season...or worse.

After a little more than a year of Ineos, I'd say they are 10-20% better than Woodward and that's not a compliment. They only get that 10-20% because they appear to have made at least a few decent signings and they are seemingly targeting youth transfers which I think is smart. But between the u-turn on EtH, the u-turn on Ashworth, and the poor execution of hiring Amorim/transfer window proceedings, they are clearly a bottom of the table club management team.

Given the first 10 games on the schedule, the reasons for optimism are limited to "well maybe Amorim really only needs a full pre-season with his players to make a big improvement" and "maybe United can execute half of a complete roster redo in a mere month and those players can be integrated quickly".

Neither of those are highly likely of coming through in my opinion. Get ready for that DCL on a free signing everyone. It's coming.
Showstopper
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Not DCL… but Nicholas Jackson? Ugh. It's a harsh off season isn't it? (Edit: just a rumor but… I could see us actually doing this).

Mathguy64
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$20 days we get low balled for Garnacho. And we end up taking it.
Thunder18
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How is Nicholas Jackson even brought up as a consideration? We already have a striker who can't finish, why on earth would we take him off Chelsea when we already got rinsed on buying Mason Mount
Furlock Bones
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Now getting spit roasted by Dominos.

Dre_00
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65+5 is the offer now for Mbeumo.

These guys never effing learn. Ever. Ever. Ever. Ever. Ever.
Furlock Bones
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Dre_00 said:

65+5 is the offer now for Mbeumo.

These guys never effing learn. Ever. Ever. Ever. Ever. Ever.


As the world turns
Showstopper
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Well, we are paying a few mil more than we probably would have had to before poo like Madueke went for like 50M plus addons. Think we could have gotten it done for around 60M+5 earlier, but this isn't far off the EPL market.

On the downside, probably no striker until August, but maybe that's good news and someone else can go buy Jackson before we get money. lol.
Dre_00
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The best case scenario, if this actually happens at this price, is that Mbeumo comes in, scores 10+ goals and 10+ assists and everyone forgets about the transfer strategy.

But that won't excuse waiting a month to pay Brentford's asking price and putting at risk his integration and potentially future transfers during this window.
 
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