Well… at least we don't have to watch that game again.

Hell of a goal by Sesko to be fair.

Completely undeserved result. That was putrid.

Dre_00 said:

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Hell of a goal by Sesko to be fair.

Completely undeserved result. That was putrid.

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You think West Ham deserved to win? Really?

A draw today was as good as a loss. I hate that we are on manager # (no idea) and we still can't figure out how to beat a low block.

Furlock Bones said:

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A draw today was as good as a loss. I hate that we are on manager # (no idea) and we still can't figure out how to beat a low block.

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Well, you see you get 1 point for a tie and 0 for a loss, so not the same.

West Ham had been playing really well lately, mid week road game, so was always going to be a tough ask.

I think Carrick got his tactics wrong today, would have preferred Sesko from the beginning today since we should have expected West Ham sitting back in a low block. Needed more aerial support and someone to attack crosses from the beginning.

But a draw on the road in a midweek match should always be a good result.

Besides the obvious fact that we have dropped so many damned points this season against the worst clubs, we have to continue enduring posts of that lettuce head loser on our social media feeds.

Well we aren't great against teams that low block because we aren't really set up for those kinds of teams. I am not picking on him because I would 1000% give him a deal to keep him here another year, but Maguire is a great defender to handle big center forwards like Haaland and Gyokeres. However, he's not the type of player you want defending a lot of breaks on counters. He's not exactly alone; I'm only picking on him because he's so in form (he should get his England spot back in my opinion). But we aren't a team for footraces.

While true , the goal we gave up was on Martinez who just stood there and didn't go at Bowen or pressure him. That made the free and easy cross in. I also wonder where Shaw was. This wasn't on Maguire.

In the end I think Carrick got the tactics off. He tried the same 11 and it was never going to work. I would have subbed on Sesko much earlier or even started him. Let him and Mbeuno drive at the center of the WH high line they were playing.

I'm not saying Maguire was at fault for the goal. I'm just saying he's not fast, Kobie's not fast, Casemiro's certainly not fast, and I feel like Martinez has lost a step with his injury. We aren't winning track meets with our starting middle defense, that's all I'm saying. And I pointed out Maguire just because he was so good against City and Arsenal.

Shaw made a high risk, low probability of success challenge in the middle of the park that completely took him out of the play. He was the first one to mess up. Chance doesn't get created if he plays that more conservatively and just slows the play/contains.


Anyway, our defense didn't play badly. It was the goal and a long range shot from Summerville that forced Lammens into a very good save. But that was it. I agree that Sesko should have come on earlier. He and even Zirkzee could have helped provide variety in the attack when West Ham settled into their low block. It was way too easy for West Ham because we were so one dimensional. Pressure the man with the ball, defend the edge of the 18 where we constantly kept trying to play 1-2s into on the ground, and wait till the ball comes your way. And the few times we managed to get some glimpses at a break in transition and a small window opened where we could attack before West Ham could get everyone back, we either misplayed the pass or took a way too safe option that prioritized possession way too much. Amad was especially guilty of that last night.

Everton is a better team and likely won't be quite as compact as West Ham but they'll be more like West Ham than they will be like City/Arsenal or even Fulham. Two weeks before that game unlike the 3 days before West Ham. Can give Carrick a pass as maybe the shortened week impacted training but no excuse if they are equally hopeless at Everton on the 23rd.

Tuchel signed a 4 year extension for England to 2028. Supposedly our job was part of the impetus for them getting it done now even though he hasn't really done anything yet for England.

I'll be honest: I'm not mad. I feel like he's a little like signing Jose: impressive resume, but the relationship has got a shelf life as soon as it starts. Maybe England manager is a little more stable since the pool of players is more or less fixed with only a few exceptions where countries can woo young players with multiple international options. (I.e., there won't be blowups over not getting more transfers in the England job).

Works for me. I'm not a fan of Timmy Tickles.

Side note. NF just sacked Dyche.

To hire the Wolves manager from the start of the year that got fired for getting only 2 points by November.

What can go wrong?

(I'm not saying Dyche is God's gift to management, but he did have more points than games at Forest, which is what you are pretty much looking for in a "save us from relegation" manager.)

Think I read they were 11th in the table since the day he was hired.

I hope Forest go down. Their owner is almost as shady as the sheiks. Plus Elliot Anderson would likely be available for a heck of a lot less than the 100m people are throwing out.

Dre_00 said:

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Think I read they were 11th in the table since the day he was hired.

I hope Forest go down. Their owner is almost as shady as the sheiks. Plus Elliot Anderson would likely be available for a heck of a lot less than the 100m people are throwing out.

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Agreed, NF owner deserves to back down to Championship.

I haven't heard any links, but when I watch West Ham this year (which is admittedly only a few times), their Fernandes looks pretty good, too.

(Looks at the table after yesterday's result)

If we could just figure out how to beat good low block defenses...

I'm not very optimistic that we can, but if we could...

What are referencing? Everything seems very orderly at the top of the table…


(Warning: NSFW language; lots of F bombs. But worth it for the schadenfreude. Ironically, I want Arsenal to win more than City, but when life hands you lemons…)

That's amazing. He starts out slow, depressed, morose and then 2 minutes in he flips a switch to spitting angry and dropping f bombshell every other word for the next 10 minutes. He went from 2 to 12 on the dial in the snap of your fingers.

I've watched it several times. You have to admire an artist who has mastered their craft.


Especially if they have some F***ING BOLLOCKS!!!

Burnley level it against Chelsea in stoppage time!

Villa tied and Brentford lost. Need to take advantage against Everton

Villa are incredibly lucky. They got 3 points against Brighton a week ago in spite of having exactly 0 shots on goal (Brighton had 5) and they get a late equalizer at home to Leeds who more or less matched them in creating chances even if Villa dominated possession. They seem very vulnerable.

Well we had a nice chance early but our own player blocked the initial shot.

Everton are getting way too comfortable now. Dangerous time and we keep giving away stupid free kicks in dangerous areas

Everton look much the better side in the first few minutes of the half.

Bring Sesko on...Mbeumo just skied it from 3 yards out

and just like that a good chance to Mbeumo who can't get over the ball and puts it over the bar.

This has been a dire hour of football to watch

Sesko goal

The 3 new guys all created that one. Beautiful outlet by Cunha, nice lay off by Mbeumo and Sesko buries it

Working… but this recent version of Sesko is Thanos… he is inevitable lol.

Mbeumo off for Mazraoui.

This ref is a clown. Yoro gets shoved down by Tarkowski and they both get carded