Wemby looks awesome in warmups.

Gonna wreck the Lakers. (If he comes back for that one)

Atlanta is getting a Top 3 pick in the next draft.

Sorry I just saw this. We are a few rows behind the spurs bench.

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Sorry I just saw this. We are a few rows behind the spurs bench.

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We somehow ended up next to the bench. Baseline sitting next to the trainers.

My son has a new favorite player - Julian pulled him out onto the court pregame and let him shoot with the team.

Good stuff!

Another 3rd quarter meltdown.

Mitch has to change things up during halftime. These 3rd quarters are killing us.

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Pop is on his way to NO to whoop Mitch Johnson's ass for this defensive showing

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The things that came out of Sweeneys mouth during this last timeout had my son asking a lot of questions.

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Pop is on his way to NO to whoop Mitch Johnson's ass for this defensive showing

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The things that came out of Sweeneys mouth during this last timeout had my son asking a lot of questions.

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I see you guys! Gig 'em. And Go Spurs Go!

What the heck does Mitch tell this team at halftime for them to not show up in the third?

This season, Spurs seem to play great in the first half with a lead then don't bother to show up in the third. Time and time it happens.

44-16 against Cleveland, 45-23 tonight. Ridiculous.

They came out so flat. You could feel the energy difference in warmups. Third wasn't a surprise.

Good lord this team cannot figure out how to go into half and come back out

Pelicans scored on 21 of 26 possessions in the 3rd.

Spurs couldn't handle the zone. Awful effort on defense. Scott Foster being Scott Foster. Fox is a bum.

Derik Queen showing out today just for guitar soup

The trade to get him was horrible, but I think he's already shown enough to prove me right that he's going to be a productive offensive player in this league.

Interesting we didn't put in Sochan or Castle in the game in the last defensive possession.

Harper is ridiculously good already.

Queen is a modern day Big Baby. He will be a beast in that energy big bowling ball role. But spurs dont need that they need someone who can stroke a three

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Harper is ridiculously good already.

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I know it's a cliche comparison, but we have not had someone with the ability to get to the rim at will like that since Manu. Castle isn't far behind him in that regard either. Their assist numbers are gonna be nuts if Champagnie/Barnes/Vassell continue to fill it up

I'm not arguing that I want him on the Spurs, just that he's been very impressive for a rookie overall so far. And I think it's a little disingenuous for you to forget that you made a few posts calling him fat Queen at the beginning of the season when he didn't get much run in the first few games.

I think the shooting will come with time. Myles Turner and Julius Randle didn't come into the league as good shooters either. In a redraft of this class so far, I think any logical person would say that him slipping to 13 wouldn't happen based on what he's already shown. He'd have been a great choice for Washington or Phoenix.

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I'm not arguing that I want him on the Spurs,

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Speaking of disingenuous, I seem to remember you wanting him to fall to the Spurs the way you talked him up throughout the draft process.

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And I think it's a little disingenuous for you to forget that you made a few posts calling him fat Queen at the beginning of the season when he didn't get much run in the first few games.

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I didn't bag on him for not playing early in the season, that isn't disingenuous, that's a lie. Rookies aren't expected to get lots of minutes immediately and I didn't expect that of him with Zion coming in healthy.

I did call him fat during the draft process before he was drafted because he was and had historically awful physical marks. But I always agreed on his offensive talent and footwork. My questions on him weren't unique to me: work ethic, drive , athleticism, shooting, defense.

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I think the shooting will come with time. Myles Turner and Julius Randle didn't come into the league as good shooters either.

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Turner and those other guys didn't grow up after the 3pt revolution. Queen was like 10yo when Steph blew up in 2015.

DYLAN HARPER TONIGHT

• 22 POINTS
• 6 ASSISTS
• 3 REBOUNDS
• 10/16 FG
• 26 MINUTES PLAYED pic.twitter.com/gxhEu0BHpU

— Bala (@BalaPattySZN) December 9, 2025

Our own rookie is showing out and hit the game winner over Queen, who's feet were planted in cement in the restricted area, and all you talk about is Queen. Take it to the Pelicans thread. You can post your lies there.

Queen is good. No doubt. But he doesn't fit the profile of what the Spurs have been looking for. It doesn't matter if fans like him. I personally think he'd be a fun player to root for but I understand what this organization is trying to build.

Any news on Wemby playing tonight? I saw he was listed as a game time decision.

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In a hypothetical world where he was a Spur, I think we'd be a better and more complete team today. In the future I hope for Bryant to out develop him, but Queen's game clearly translates to the NBA well and if he continues to develop and commits to being in game shape, I think he'll have a great career as a productive player.

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I think he is unquestionably a more productive player than Bryant right now, but I stand by what myself and others said about him during the draft process and even yesterday and today: he isn't a great fit for the Spurs. He is best with the ball in his hands, and I don't think he is real useful if you aren't using his footwork, hands and vision as a hub like a poor man's Sengun or Joker.

Personally, I don't think we are a better team if we take the ball out of Wemby, Harper, and Fox's hands and put it in Queen's hands.

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Not picking a fight, just trying to discuss a kid that had a great game last night against us.

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This is bull**** and you know it. And everything you have said since last night and the way you have acted in the past is evidence of this being bull*****

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You're meanwhile trying to move the goalposts on what you thought about him.

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I am not, and can back it up. You didn't post receipts because you don't have them to back it up.

Here I am back on Feb 6th saying he is a all offense, no defense center that isn't really what we want. Same thing I am saying today. https://texags.com/forums/52/topics/3473189/replies/69613866



Here is a week later where I posted highlights of him and talk about his offense being similar to Diaw:
https://texags.com/forums/52/topics/3473189/replies/69660695



Or how about this post where I talk about his great offense, but inability to play defense in the way we would need him to? https://texags.com/forums/52/topics/3473189/replies/69711453



Here in March, I do **** on his motor... because it sucked. Fleming is still the archetype we need, but he doesn't look like he is the guy, that's for sure. https://texags.com/forums/52/topics/3473189/replies/69879799



Or here in April:
https://texags.com/forums/52/topics/3473189/replies/69960286



Or this long reply to you: https://texags.com/forums/52/topics/3473189/replies/69997870

It's really long, but some highlights: He could have some Boris Diaw qualities on offense. Has really nice footwork, passes well, really nice hands, but he lacks quickness, and explosiveness.





So that was my bottom line on Queen in April after the tournament. How have I moved the goal posts. I was the first person that brought him up here, and I have consistently brought up his vision, passing, and footwork.

The negatives I saw on him then are the same negatives that I see in him now and why I don't think he is a good fit on this Spurs team.

More of the same:

https://texags.com/forums/52/topics/3473189/replies/70002225

I have been incredibly consistent on this throughout the entire process. But you attack me saying I am moving the goalposts. What is really happening is you are making up a strawman to attack me, then saying "why can't we have civil discussion?" Yeah, it is because you are flat out lying about me and calling me out by name. You are the one that chose to not be civil. Not me.



Also, hey look, you were on the Bryant train and also lost some love for Queen with his bad athletic numbers. Why ya gotta be so negative?

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I'm not lying about what you said. What reason would I have to lie? Anyone can go back and read your posts, they were unnecessarily negative and showed a lack of understanding about some of the nuance that Queen's game has.

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You are absolutely lying about what I said and that is the only reason you aren't posting what I have said about Queen. You aren't posting the receipts because they are not there. I did not make fun of him for not getting playing time early in the season. No one really expected that at all. He was injured in training camp and Zion was healthy.

Everyone can draw their own conclusions. But you are attacking me repeatedly for absolutely no reason. You are making things up to attack me. It's sad.

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Guys that are 6'9" and see the game at a high level don't grow on trees, so his skill set stood out to me. You only saw the negatives, and I probably am focusing too much on the positives,

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Really? Because I just posted a ton of examples of me being positive about his positive qualities. And everyone can see that. Bottom line is I think he can be a good player in the league, but I don't think he is a good fit for the Spurs. That's what I said in April before the lottery and that's what I believe now. I think NOLA can be a really good fit for him once they dump off guys like Zion because Queen as a hub with a quick scorer like fears and shooters like Murphy makes a lot of sense. They need a rim protector that can stretch the floor... just like I have said previously. But a team with a MylesTurner-Queen-Murphy-Herb-Fears lineup actually makes some sense on both ends of the court. You still have to hide Queen, but with Herb, Turner, Murphy, you can possibly do that.

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but in any case I see no reason we can't civilly discuss him on this thread.

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Starts with you, my brother. You called me out by name (which you have done before on similar posts) and you made up things you can't and won't back up.

We had lots of good discussion in the past. Not sure why you chose to take this path. We both know you can't post receipts that I called him fat in a few posts because he wasn't getting playing time.

So maybe we should all try to do better going forward?

Official, Wemby out for the Lakers tomorrow.

Wembanyama returning in LA for the Cup quarterfinals would've been a circus for him and the team. If Spurs win, they'll have 3 days in between games. If they lose, they'll have 5 days between games. My guess is they want Wemby to progress to playing 5-on-5 b4 he returns.

— Michael C. Wright (@mikecwright) December 10, 2025

#Spurs make it official. Victor Wembanyama is OUT for the NBA Cup Quarterfinal. Team, as it said in the past, placed no special emphasis on a stakes game regarding his ramp-up. #PorVida pic.twitter.com/L4QIOvl7Tj

— Matt Guzman (@mattgzman) December 10, 2025

Back to the Spurs:

The way Harper just takes the contact from a really strong player like Saddiq Bey, forces his way in and finishes with the off hand is absolutely special. This is with the game on the line.

Dylan Harper in a 135-132 wi. @ the NO Pelicans : Season-high 22 points on 10-16 shooting & 6 assists in 26 minutes off the bench (Go-ahead layup with 9.1 seconds left) pic.twitter.com/gdcrwlgV2h

— Lee Harvey (@Sayian_Warrior) December 9, 2025

This little spin counter:

18 points for dylannn pic.twitter.com/9NxEDfKabu

— Bala (@BalaPattySZN) December 9, 2025

Bill's a massive fan.

“I f---ing love Dylan Harper. What a pick.”@BillSimmons and @RobMahoney are blown away by what Dylan Harper can already do offensively at 19 years old. pic.twitter.com/yvjPrdyt7f

— The Ringer (@ringer) December 9, 2025

This clip has a bunch of his drives from recent games. The ones where he just goes right at Rudy Gobert just shows you the type of strength, ability and confidence he has.

Dylan Harper paint-touch scoring & assists pic.twitter.com/TWNMivL7eF

— Brett Usher (@UsherNBA) December 9, 2025

I was looking for a particular one last night and couldn't find it. But late in the game last night, Harper got the ball in the corner with Herb Jones on him. Dylan just drives baseline, Queen gives help and Harper gets the lay up in over both Queen and Herb and does it with his left hand. Murphy rotated and fronted Kornet so that easy dump off wasn't there. Just amazing he is going to just take it right at and through one of the best individual defenders in the league and finish with his off hand like that.

"There's no ego between us three. We all just want to see each other succeed, no matter what. We all have one common goal, and that's winning." https://t.co/SzkVm9Eahv pic.twitter.com/2WS8SpgcwX

— Josh Paredes (@Josh810) December 9, 2025

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6867639/2025/12/10/best-nba-front-offices-rankings/

Amazing how the hardest-working people always are also the luckiest? Fancy that.

Yes, the Spurs front office had nothing to do with getting Victor Wembanyama and Stephon Castle or Dylan Harper. That was Ping-Pong-ball justice. But San Antonio also has positioned itself in the post-Tim Duncan era to take lots and lots of bites at the lottery apple by continuing to be smart under Wright, who works hand in glove with CEO of Spurs Sports and Entertainment R.C. Buford, amid what looks like a relatively seamless transition from Hall of Fame coach Gregg Popovich to Johnson.

The Spurs got in optimal position to win the 2023 lottery and Wemby by bottoming out in 2022, moving Dejounte Murray to the Hawks for three first-round picks. And that deal got San Antonio Arizona wing Carter Bryant in the '25 draft, on top of picking Harper second overall, with a 2026 pick swap with the Hawks and an unprotected 2027 first-rounder from the Murray deal yet to come.

And having that unprotected 2027 first coming from Atlanta allowed the Spurs the freedom to trade their own '27 first to Sacramento to get De'Aaron Fox from the Sacramento Kings.

And, San Antonio has gotten significant production from Harrison Barnes, who's shot 43 percent from 3 since coming to the Spurs, as part of the multi-team deal in July 2024 that sent DeMar DeRozan from the Chicago Bulls to the Kings, as well as an unprotected 2031 pick swap with Sacramento. For this, San Antonio gave up … nothing, really. The Spurs created enough cap space to take in Barnes' contract by trading the eighth pick in the '24 draft to the Wolves for even more assets: a first-round pick swap with Minnesota in 2030 and the Wolves' unprotected 2031 first, which they could do because they already had Fox and Castle and didn't need Rob Dillingham, whom Minnesota hoped would be its point guard of the future.

So, yes, having absurd lottery luck isn't an example of great team building. But that's only part of why San Antonio has been able to construct an emerging power in the West, one that projects to be a long-term challenger to Oklahoma City for years to come.

"They have been fortunate in their risk propositions, which have paid off in the draft lottery (Wemby, Castle, Harper) and opportunistic in asset collection," one executive said. Aldridge

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Jeremiah Fears 17 PTS on 7/10 in 18 MP pic.twitter.com/TXHbHvqBvq

— Brett Usher (@UsherNBA) October 23, 2025

My guy Fears looked really good off the bench and Zion played well, but Pelicans still fell to Memphis. Derik Queen looked like hot garbage.

I think NOLA will be a play in team and surprise people

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