At some point they should have shifted the communication to someone besides the Sheriff. He is not a very good public speaker and is obviously not comfortable doing it. He seems to just ramble when he isn't reading directly from the notes.

Gotcha! Thanks!

Sheriff says no suspect but he didn't say anyone has been cleared either.

The other thing people should be conscious of, if you have a doorbell or camera system you need to either pay for the cloud storage subscription or get a system that has on-site storage of the video outside of the camera itself.

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Already 1 arrest by the FBI for imposter on one of the ransom notes

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Good.

It's unfortunate when a crime happens and it thrusts some incompetent moron law official in front of the mic. It makes you wonder how clueless most of the law is.

This Sheriff is full of crap. Yesterday the S.O. denied the vehicle impound, and today he says it's standard practice. He has someone in his office that's leaking to the press and he's lying multiple times to deny the leaked intel. He finally admits there was an inside camera and now claims the video is unrecoverable.

Bottom line this lady is deceased and if she were not, this Barney Fife could never find her.

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I just wonder if she is okay-- been a lot of days off her heart meds etc.

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IMHO she's not, I think the ransom notes are nothing more than a distraction, and likely fake scams. But Guthrie is hanging onto hope because of the notes (emails). The Authorities are going through the motions for the benefit of the family, I'm pretty sure they have their suspicions but are unable to prove them. My guess is Savannah has been pleading with them to make this video, so to satisfy her the authorities assisted them in making the video, Savannah's thinking is she makes her living on camera and it's the only tool she's got. The other two siblings look like hostages in their own right, no emotion whatsoever. It's a sad deal, but I'm convinced it's an inside job, but the cops have no way to prove it yet, and may never. eventually they are just going to have to accept that she's dead. 84 in poor health won't last long if she were being held hostage, but I think she was dead from the jump and the hostage thing is just a distraction.

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You hit the nail on the head with the description of the siblings in that video. They video itself looks like a proof-of-life video; like they are in a concrete bunker and its being filmed by someone sitting on the ground. It's just so odd and so...cold...which of course, isn't what the purpose of the message is.

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Everyone reacts to things differently. They may be trying to hold it together, or the FBI may be instructing them not to show too much emotion. We didn't know what all went into that.

I don't think that it's an inside job at this point. A neighbor had reported someone recently lurking around their property that was scared off when they set off a motion activated light. Could have been someone trying to case the area. Her mom was also on her show in the last few months, and that could have given someone the idea for a kidnapping. Also, her sister and sister's boyfriend seem to be fairly successful people, and this may have happened around 2am, hours after they'd dropped her off. I think checking surveillance around their house and their phones would probably be pretty easy to see if they'd left at all during the night. Plus, by all accounts they were a pretty close family.

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Already 1 arrest by the FBI for imposter on one of the ransom notes

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This person and people like them should hang on the public square, by sunset the next day. The absolute worst.

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It's unfortunate when a crime happens and it thrusts some incompetent moron law official in front of the mic. It makes you wonder how clueless most of the law is.

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Yep, the smaller the town, the more yokel.

It seems they screwed up really bad by looking through the site and then clearing it for the family, but did not foresee the FBI coming in and wanting to look at it. This was known from minute 1 that it was high profile, they should have had that whole scene locked down and guarded. If it was an inside job, you likely have given the perps access back to the area.

No one from Saturday night has been cleared.

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Anti-taxxer said:

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I just wonder if she is okay-- been a lot of days off her heart meds etc.

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IMHO she's not, I think the ransom notes are nothing more than a distraction, and likely fake scams. But Guthrie is hanging onto hope because of the notes (emails). The Authorities are going through the motions for the benefit of the family, I'm pretty sure they have their suspicions but are unable to prove them. My guess is Savannah has been pleading with them to make this video, so to satisfy her the authorities assisted them in making the video, Savannah's thinking is she makes her living on camera and it's the only tool she's got. The other two siblings look like hostages in their own right, no emotion whatsoever. It's a sad deal, but I'm convinced it's an inside job, but the cops have no way to prove it yet, and may never. eventually they are just going to have to accept that she's dead. 84 in poor health won't last long if she were being held hostage, but I think she was dead from the jump and the hostage thing is just a distraction.

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You hit the nail on the head with the description of the siblings in that video. They video itself looks like a proof-of-life video; like they are in a concrete bunker and its being filmed by someone sitting on the ground. It's just so odd and so...cold...which of course, isn't what the purpose of the message is.

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Everyone reacts to things differently. They may be trying to hold it together, or the FBI may be instructing them not to show too much emotion. We didn't know what all went into that.

I don't think that it's an inside job at this point. A neighbor had reported someone recently lurking around their property that was scared off when they set off a motion activated light. Could have been someone trying to case the area. Her mom was also on her show in the last few months, and that could have given someone the idea for a kidnapping. Also, her sister and sister's boyfriend seem to be fairly successful people, and this may have happened around 2am, hours after they'd dropped her off. I think checking surveillance around their house and their phones would probably be pretty easy to see if they'd left at all during the night. Plus, by all accounts they were a pretty close family.

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Fairly successful? He's a school teacher, an elementary school teacher in Tucson makes and average of approximately $44,791 to $53,801 annually depending on years of service, he's taught six years so he's on the lower end. Annie Guthrie is a poetry writer and jeweler in Tucson. Guthrie is author of a book of jewelry design with Chronicle Books and a book of poems, Doubt seriously if she make six figures a year. They recently bought a $600k house, they are in debt up to their eyeballs I bet.

Please give your definition of "fairly successful"

I've missed most of this press conference but Sheriff just said there is no prime suspect and they're talking to everyone, so it doesn't sound like anything has changed.

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I've missed most of this press conference but Sheriff just said there is no prime suspect and they're talking to everyone, so it doesn't sound like anything has changed.

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Been going for nearly an hour to say virtually nothing...with full network coverage. Preemptions galore.

Remember when updates had updates?

aggiehawg said:

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Horn_in_Aggieland said:

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I've missed most of this press conference but Sheriff just said there is no prime suspect and they're talking to everyone, so it doesn't sound like anything has changed.

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Been going for nearly an hour to say virtually nothing...with full network coverage. Preemptions galore.

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The situation is tragic, and I very much hope she is found alive (although that seems very unlikely at this point) but I am at a loss as to why this is garnering such a huge amount of national media attention. It has completely hijacked the news cycle for the last 24 hours.

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ABATTBQ11 said:

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Anti-taxxer said:

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Dirty_Mike&the_boys said:

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I just wonder if she is okay-- been a lot of days off her heart meds etc.

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IMHO she's not, I think the ransom notes are nothing more than a distraction, and likely fake scams. But Guthrie is hanging onto hope because of the notes (emails). The Authorities are going through the motions for the benefit of the family, I'm pretty sure they have their suspicions but are unable to prove them. My guess is Savannah has been pleading with them to make this video, so to satisfy her the authorities assisted them in making the video, Savannah's thinking is she makes her living on camera and it's the only tool she's got. The other two siblings look like hostages in their own right, no emotion whatsoever. It's a sad deal, but I'm convinced it's an inside job, but the cops have no way to prove it yet, and may never. eventually they are just going to have to accept that she's dead. 84 in poor health won't last long if she were being held hostage, but I think she was dead from the jump and the hostage thing is just a distraction.

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You hit the nail on the head with the description of the siblings in that video. They video itself looks like a proof-of-life video; like they are in a concrete bunker and its being filmed by someone sitting on the ground. It's just so odd and so...cold...which of course, isn't what the purpose of the message is.

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Everyone reacts to things differently. They may be trying to hold it together, or the FBI may be instructing them not to show too much emotion. We didn't know what all went into that.

I don't think that it's an inside job at this point. A neighbor had reported someone recently lurking around their property that was scared off when they set off a motion activated light. Could have been someone trying to case the area. Her mom was also on her show in the last few months, and that could have given someone the idea for a kidnapping. Also, her sister and sister's boyfriend seem to be fairly successful people, and this may have happened around 2am, hours after they'd dropped her off. I think checking surveillance around their house and their phones would probably be pretty easy to see if they'd left at all during the night. Plus, by all accounts they were a pretty close family.

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Fairly successful? He's a school teacher, an elementary school teacher in Tucson makes and average of approximately $44,791 to $53,801 annually depending on years of service, he's taught six years so he's on the lower end. Annie Guthrie is a poetry writer and jeweler in Tucson. Guthrie is author of a book of jewelry design with Chronicle Books and a book of poems, Doubt seriously if she make six figures a year. They recently bought a $600k house, they are in debt up to their eyeballs I bet.

Please give your definition of "fairly successful"

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I would guess that Samantha helped them out with that house.

Booma94 said:

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aggiehawg said:

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I've missed most of this press conference but Sheriff just said there is no prime suspect and they're talking to everyone, so it doesn't sound like anything has changed.

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Been going for nearly an hour to say virtually nothing...with full network coverage. Preemptions galore.

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The situation is tragic, and I very much hope she is found alive (although that seems very unlikely at this point) but I am at a loss as to why this is garnering such a huge amount of national media attention. It has completely hijacked the news cycle for the last 24 hours.

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I would tend to think it's getting a ton of news because she's a somewhat wealthy white, older widow, whose daughter is a celebrity

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aggiehawg said:

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I've missed most of this press conference but Sheriff just said there is no prime suspect and they're talking to everyone, so it doesn't sound like anything has changed.

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Been going for nearly an hour to say virtually nothing...with full network coverage. Preemptions galore.

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The situation is tragic, and I very much hope she is found alive (although that seems very unlikely at this point) but I am at a loss as to why this is garnering such a huge amount of national media attention. It has completely hijacked the news cycle for the last 24 hours.

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I thought the same last night but it's just like any celeb criminal murder/kidnapping/disappearance case.

Even if majority of ppl don't watch cable news anymore, a good percentage of Joe suburbia moms have one of the major network morning shows on in the background still and Savannah is very much well known.

Celeb mixed with pretty peculiar facts in the case is why it's such a big deal imho.

Has it been said where Savannah was at the time? Was she visiting her sister or did she fly in?

I'm still leaning to sister and BIL. And if she knows something, like him leaving the house, she needs to speak up.

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Dirty_Mike&the_boys said:

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ABATTBQ11 said:

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Anti-taxxer said:

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I just wonder if she is okay-- been a lot of days off her heart meds etc.

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IMHO she's not, I think the ransom notes are nothing more than a distraction, and likely fake scams. But Guthrie is hanging onto hope because of the notes (emails). The Authorities are going through the motions for the benefit of the family, I'm pretty sure they have their suspicions but are unable to prove them. My guess is Savannah has been pleading with them to make this video, so to satisfy her the authorities assisted them in making the video, Savannah's thinking is she makes her living on camera and it's the only tool she's got. The other two siblings look like hostages in their own right, no emotion whatsoever. It's a sad deal, but I'm convinced it's an inside job, but the cops have no way to prove it yet, and may never. eventually they are just going to have to accept that she's dead. 84 in poor health won't last long if she were being held hostage, but I think she was dead from the jump and the hostage thing is just a distraction.

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You hit the nail on the head with the description of the siblings in that video. They video itself looks like a proof-of-life video; like they are in a concrete bunker and its being filmed by someone sitting on the ground. It's just so odd and so...cold...which of course, isn't what the purpose of the message is.

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Everyone reacts to things differently. They may be trying to hold it together, or the FBI may be instructing them not to show too much emotion. We didn't know what all went into that.

I don't think that it's an inside job at this point. A neighbor had reported someone recently lurking around their property that was scared off when they set off a motion activated light. Could have been someone trying to case the area. Her mom was also on her show in the last few months, and that could have given someone the idea for a kidnapping. Also, her sister and sister's boyfriend seem to be fairly successful people, and this may have happened around 2am, hours after they'd dropped her off. I think checking surveillance around their house and their phones would probably be pretty easy to see if they'd left at all during the night. Plus, by all accounts they were a pretty close family.

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Fairly successful? He's a school teacher, an elementary school teacher in Tucson makes and average of approximately $44,791 to $53,801 annually depending on years of service, he's taught six years so he's on the lower end. Annie Guthrie is a poetry writer and jeweler in Tucson. Guthrie is author of a book of jewelry design with Chronicle Books and a book of poems, Doubt seriously if she make six figures a year. They recently bought a $600k house, they are in debt up to their eyeballs I bet.

Please give your definition of "fairly successful"

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I would guess that Samantha helped them out with that house.

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No doubt, likely supplied the down payment. I read that prior to them moving close to home they were renting a lot cheaper home closer to the school where he taught Oro Valley AZ an hour away from Mom. Where they live now is a couple of miles away. Savannah being in NYC most of the time, leaves mom isolated. The brother is a pilot and lives in Vermont

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Has it been said where Savannah was at the time? Was she visiting her sister or did she fly in?

I'm still leaning to sister and BIL. And if she knows something, like him leaving the house, she needs to speak up.

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NYC getting ready to fly out to cover the Winter Olympics

MsDoubleD81 said:

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I'm still leaning to sister and BIL. And if she knows something, like him leaving the house, she needs to speak up.

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If sis and BIL are innocent, they need to hook up with Richard Jewel's lawyers and start planning lawsuits pronto.

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ABATTBQ11 said:

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Anti-taxxer said:

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Dirty_Mike&the_boys said:

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Owlagdad said:

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I just wonder if she is okay-- been a lot of days off her heart meds etc.

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IMHO she's not, I think the ransom notes are nothing more than a distraction, and likely fake scams. But Guthrie is hanging onto hope because of the notes (emails). The Authorities are going through the motions for the benefit of the family, I'm pretty sure they have their suspicions but are unable to prove them. My guess is Savannah has been pleading with them to make this video, so to satisfy her the authorities assisted them in making the video, Savannah's thinking is she makes her living on camera and it's the only tool she's got. The other two siblings look like hostages in their own right, no emotion whatsoever. It's a sad deal, but I'm convinced it's an inside job, but the cops have no way to prove it yet, and may never. eventually they are just going to have to accept that she's dead. 84 in poor health won't last long if she were being held hostage, but I think she was dead from the jump and the hostage thing is just a distraction.

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You hit the nail on the head with the description of the siblings in that video. They video itself looks like a proof-of-life video; like they are in a concrete bunker and its being filmed by someone sitting on the ground. It's just so odd and so...cold...which of course, isn't what the purpose of the message is.

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Everyone reacts to things differently. They may be trying to hold it together, or the FBI may be instructing them not to show too much emotion. We didn't know what all went into that.

I don't think that it's an inside job at this point. A neighbor had reported someone recently lurking around their property that was scared off when they set off a motion activated light. Could have been someone trying to case the area. Her mom was also on her show in the last few months, and that could have given someone the idea for a kidnapping. Also, her sister and sister's boyfriend seem to be fairly successful people, and this may have happened around 2am, hours after they'd dropped her off. I think checking surveillance around their house and their phones would probably be pretty easy to see if they'd left at all during the night. Plus, by all accounts they were a pretty close family.

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Fairly successful? He's a school teacher, an elementary school teacher in Tucson makes and average of approximately $44,791 to $53,801 annually depending on years of service, he's taught six years so he's on the lower end. Annie Guthrie is a poetry writer and jeweler in Tucson. Guthrie is author of a book of jewelry design with Chronicle Books and a book of poems, Doubt seriously if she make six figures a year. They recently bought a $600k house, they are in debt up to their eyeballs I bet.

Please give your definition of "fairly successful"

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you think the 84 year old mom bought that million dollar home in Tucson.

of course Savannah was helping her family to buy real estate.

on the true crime police podcasts you can easily see the poor sister and her husband be in on this

but in reality- not likely.

it is pretty easy to find out if the mom had actually been going to church- or was doing livestreams due to her physical condition. whoever called in the "tip" to the police is likely in on the crime

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MsDoubleD81 said:

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I'm still leaning to sister and BIL. And if she knows something, like him leaving the house, she needs to speak up.

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If sis and BIL are innocent, they need to hook up with Richard Jewel's lawyers and start planning lawsuits pronto.

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Lin Wood surrendered his law license and no longer practices law for one, and as was said, nobody of significance has accused them of anything.

[You've derailed this thread twice now despite clear warnings to avoid it. Take a break -- Staff]

Nancy Guthrie timeline: pic.twitter.com/keQGdutTNU

— Brian Entin (@BrianEntin) February 5, 2026

Sorry if this was covered on here already, but has the story that someone from the church called after she didn't attend services been debunked?

There was a story from one outlet that quoted an unnamed source from the church that the call to the family alerting them that Nancy hadn't appeared in church was suspect as she hadn't attended services in person since Covid. It has been mentioned on here

By "pacemaker disconnects". I take that to mean it communicates with her phone and the phone was left behind. Not some criminal mastermind who figured out how to hack her pacemaker. It does give an accurate time for when she was abducted.

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ABATTBQ11 said:

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Anti-taxxer said:

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Dirty_Mike&the_boys said:

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Owlagdad said:

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I just wonder if she is okay-- been a lot of days off her heart meds etc.

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IMHO she's not, I think the ransom notes are nothing more than a distraction, and likely fake scams. But Guthrie is hanging onto hope because of the notes (emails). The Authorities are going through the motions for the benefit of the family, I'm pretty sure they have their suspicions but are unable to prove them. My guess is Savannah has been pleading with them to make this video, so to satisfy her the authorities assisted them in making the video, Savannah's thinking is she makes her living on camera and it's the only tool she's got. The other two siblings look like hostages in their own right, no emotion whatsoever. It's a sad deal, but I'm convinced it's an inside job, but the cops have no way to prove it yet, and may never. eventually they are just going to have to accept that she's dead. 84 in poor health won't last long if she were being held hostage, but I think she was dead from the jump and the hostage thing is just a distraction.

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You hit the nail on the head with the description of the siblings in that video. They video itself looks like a proof-of-life video; like they are in a concrete bunker and its being filmed by someone sitting on the ground. It's just so odd and so...cold...which of course, isn't what the purpose of the message is.

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Everyone reacts to things differently. They may be trying to hold it together, or the FBI may be instructing them not to show too much emotion. We didn't know what all went into that.

I don't think that it's an inside job at this point. A neighbor had reported someone recently lurking around their property that was scared off when they set off a motion activated light. Could have been someone trying to case the area. Her mom was also on her show in the last few months, and that could have given someone the idea for a kidnapping. Also, her sister and sister's boyfriend seem to be fairly successful people, and this may have happened around 2am, hours after they'd dropped her off. I think checking surveillance around their house and their phones would probably be pretty easy to see if they'd left at all during the night. Plus, by all accounts they were a pretty close family.

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Fairly successful? He's a school teacher, an elementary school teacher in Tucson makes and average of approximately $44,791 to $53,801 annually depending on years of service, he's taught six years so he's on the lower end. Annie Guthrie is a poetry writer and jeweler in Tucson. Guthrie is author of a book of jewelry design with Chronicle Books and a book of poems, Doubt seriously if she make six figures a year. They recently bought a $600k house, they are in debt up to their eyeballs I bet.

Please give your definition of "fairly successful"

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You bet? Seems like they were able to get a mortgage for that house without an issue, so a lender with full access to their credit history and finances would disagree. They are probably pulling down enough combined to be in the top 10% of households in America. I'd call that fairly successful, but then again this is TexAgs and you're a loser of your not worth $10 million...

LMCane said:

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Dirty_Mike&the_boys said:

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ABATTBQ11 said:

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Anti-taxxer said:

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Dirty_Mike&the_boys said:

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Owlagdad said:

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I just wonder if she is okay-- been a lot of days off her heart meds etc.

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IMHO she's not, I think the ransom notes are nothing more than a distraction, and likely fake scams. But Guthrie is hanging onto hope because of the notes (emails). The Authorities are going through the motions for the benefit of the family, I'm pretty sure they have their suspicions but are unable to prove them. My guess is Savannah has been pleading with them to make this video, so to satisfy her the authorities assisted them in making the video, Savannah's thinking is she makes her living on camera and it's the only tool she's got. The other two siblings look like hostages in their own right, no emotion whatsoever. It's a sad deal, but I'm convinced it's an inside job, but the cops have no way to prove it yet, and may never. eventually they are just going to have to accept that she's dead. 84 in poor health won't last long if she were being held hostage, but I think she was dead from the jump and the hostage thing is just a distraction.

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You hit the nail on the head with the description of the siblings in that video. They video itself looks like a proof-of-life video; like they are in a concrete bunker and its being filmed by someone sitting on the ground. It's just so odd and so...cold...which of course, isn't what the purpose of the message is.

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Everyone reacts to things differently. They may be trying to hold it together, or the FBI may be instructing them not to show too much emotion. We didn't know what all went into that.

I don't think that it's an inside job at this point. A neighbor had reported someone recently lurking around their property that was scared off when they set off a motion activated light. Could have been someone trying to case the area. Her mom was also on her show in the last few months, and that could have given someone the idea for a kidnapping. Also, her sister and sister's boyfriend seem to be fairly successful people, and this may have happened around 2am, hours after they'd dropped her off. I think checking surveillance around their house and their phones would probably be pretty easy to see if they'd left at all during the night. Plus, by all accounts they were a pretty close family.

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Fairly successful? He's a school teacher, an elementary school teacher in Tucson makes and average of approximately $44,791 to $53,801 annually depending on years of service, he's taught six years so he's on the lower end. Annie Guthrie is a poetry writer and jeweler in Tucson. Guthrie is author of a book of jewelry design with Chronicle Books and a book of poems, Doubt seriously if she make six figures a year. They recently bought a $600k house, they are in debt up to their eyeballs I bet.

Please give your definition of "fairly successful"

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you think the 84 year old mom bought that million dollar home in Tucson.

of course Savannah was helping her family to buy real estate.

on the true crime police podcasts you can easily see the poor sister and her husband be in on this

but in reality- not likely.

it is pretty easy to find out if the mom had actually been going to church- or was doing livestreams due to her physical condition. whoever called in the "tip" to the police is likely in on the crime

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That's the home she raised her family in.

redcrayon said:

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LMCane said:

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Dirty_Mike&the_boys said:

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ABATTBQ11 said:

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Anti-taxxer said:

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Dirty_Mike&the_boys said:

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Owlagdad said:

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I just wonder if she is okay-- been a lot of days off her heart meds etc.

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IMHO she's not, I think the ransom notes are nothing more than a distraction, and likely fake scams. But Guthrie is hanging onto hope because of the notes (emails). The Authorities are going through the motions for the benefit of the family, I'm pretty sure they have their suspicions but are unable to prove them. My guess is Savannah has been pleading with them to make this video, so to satisfy her the authorities assisted them in making the video, Savannah's thinking is she makes her living on camera and it's the only tool she's got. The other two siblings look like hostages in their own right, no emotion whatsoever. It's a sad deal, but I'm convinced it's an inside job, but the cops have no way to prove it yet, and may never. eventually they are just going to have to accept that she's dead. 84 in poor health won't last long if she were being held hostage, but I think she was dead from the jump and the hostage thing is just a distraction.

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You hit the nail on the head with the description of the siblings in that video. They video itself looks like a proof-of-life video; like they are in a concrete bunker and its being filmed by someone sitting on the ground. It's just so odd and so...cold...which of course, isn't what the purpose of the message is.

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Everyone reacts to things differently. They may be trying to hold it together, or the FBI may be instructing them not to show too much emotion. We didn't know what all went into that.

I don't think that it's an inside job at this point. A neighbor had reported someone recently lurking around their property that was scared off when they set off a motion activated light. Could have been someone trying to case the area. Her mom was also on her show in the last few months, and that could have given someone the idea for a kidnapping. Also, her sister and sister's boyfriend seem to be fairly successful people, and this may have happened around 2am, hours after they'd dropped her off. I think checking surveillance around their house and their phones would probably be pretty easy to see if they'd left at all during the night. Plus, by all accounts they were a pretty close family.

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Fairly successful? He's a school teacher, an elementary school teacher in Tucson makes and average of approximately $44,791 to $53,801 annually depending on years of service, he's taught six years so he's on the lower end. Annie Guthrie is a poetry writer and jeweler in Tucson. Guthrie is author of a book of jewelry design with Chronicle Books and a book of poems, Doubt seriously if she make six figures a year. They recently bought a $600k house, they are in debt up to their eyeballs I bet.

Please give your definition of "fairly successful"

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you think the 84 year old mom bought that million dollar home in Tucson.

of course Savannah was helping her family to buy real estate.

on the true crime police podcasts you can easily see the poor sister and her husband be in on this

but in reality- not likely.

it is pretty easy to find out if the mom had actually been going to church- or was doing livestreams due to her physical condition. whoever called in the "tip" to the police is likely in on the crime

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That's the home she raised her family in.

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She originally bought the house for $85,000. Based on the security, or lack thereof, if Savannah helped it was only to hire maid/lawncare.