JAW3336 said:

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The greatest miscalculation the legacy auto industry ever made was doubting Elon's approach to Full Self-Driving

For years, Wall Street aggressively shorted Tesla, and the legacy auto industry laughed. They confidently declared that Elon Musk’s approach to autonomy would fail… pic.twitter.com/2gmWQscEte

— X Freeze (@XFreeze) March 4, 2026

This is a good short read.

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This absolutely true and I've said as much since the first time I tried FSD the day I bought my Y. It's an incredibly good system and a far better driver than any human alive. It isn't perfect but none of us are. The legacy manufacturers are either going to license FSD or fall so far behind it becomes a threat to their survival. Tesla is years ahead of everyone and I'm not sure anyone is on a path to catch up. The LiDAR/maps/coding based systems are wholly impractical for the real world and that will never be solved. Roads and towns change far too quickly for the maps to keep up even if you could somehow get the first sufficiently detailed maps of Snook, TX in the system.

I've talked on this thread about my trip to Colorado Springs where I drove less than one mile the entire two days going up there. Literally not one mile of that trip was drivable in the Mercedes system (the most advanced competitor) because the maps aren't available for the small towns that trip passes through. Your neighborhood streets aren't adequately marked so I'm guessing they don't work for the last couple of miles to your house. Everyone else is just extremely inferior to FSD.

Fun with Tesla service. Blew a tire on one of Dallas's wonderful roads (a six inch right angle of concrete that was left after road work). The roadside assistance worked ok, got a loaner wheel and tire.

Getting an appointment to put my wheel back on was a hassle, first available was two weeks later. Now after two weeks I show up to my appointment they inform me that the wheel is bent and they'll have to order a new one and reschedule another appointment once it arrives. They had my wheel for two weeks knowing it was from a blow out and didn't bother to look at it until I wasted my morning to show up.

I had to drive from Atlanta to the Georgia coast in my diesel truck to help my sisters prep for a wedding on the coast. It was terrible.

I had to pay attention and drive the truck the whole way, like a f'ing savage. I'm definitely spoiled now.

GeorgiAg said:

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I had to drive from Atlanta to the Georgia coast in my diesel truck to help my sisters prep for a wedding on the coast. It was terrible.

I had to pay attention and drive the truck the whole way, like a f'ing savage. I'm definitely spoiled now.

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Same for me when I drive the wife's LX570 with all the kids, though I envy the cocoon-like feel of the cabin.

GeorgiAg said:

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I had to drive from Atlanta to the Georgia coast in my diesel truck to help my sisters prep for a wedding on the coast. It was terrible.

I had to pay attention and drive the truck the whole way, like a f'ing savage. I'm definitely spoiled now.

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A few months ago we had some plumbing work done in the attic and I backed the cars out so the access could come down. Two hours later they're done and my wife goes to pull her Cadillac in and it's still running from me backing it out of the garage. I told her it wasn't my fault her car was so archaic.

Yea,

My wife had a minivan until we joined the present with the Model X. With the minivan I forgot the keys in the car, left the car running in park, forgot to lock it, and god forbid I had to sit in a 120 degree car.

Talk about driving a dinosaur.

dlp3719 said:

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chap said:

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Have any of you installed a swivel mount for your screen?

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Yes. I love having the screen lower and tilted toward me as the driver.

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Just installed. Makes so much sense.

My 2026 MY still speeds through school zones on FSD. Also, it has a hard time recognizing speed limit changes. I'll be on a road where the speed limit is 70 or 75 and FSD still shows the speed limit at 60.

Anyone else experience this?

EvenPar said:

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My 2026 MY still speeds through school zones on FSD. Also, it has a hard time recognizing speed limit changes. I'll be on a road where the speed limit is 70 or 75 and FSD still shows the speed limit at 60.

Anyone else experience this?

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The problem I had on the interstate is the speed limit was 70 mph. But occasionally there will be a sign that says "minimum speed 40 mph." The signs appear exactly the same except for the min/max words. Tesla doesn't slam on the brakes but it noticeably slows down. Scares me every time.


I don't necessarily blame Tesla. The signs should be different, but Tesla needs to fix this.

Mine is pretty good with speed limits. One road to/from work pisses me off. The county has a 55 mph limit sign on one side but didn't put the sign on the other side. So even though everyone else knows it's 55 there, Tesla still thinks it's 45 mph. Can't really blame Tesla for that.

GeorgiAg said:

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EvenPar said:

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My 2026 MY still speeds through school zones on FSD. Also, it has a hard time recognizing speed limit changes. I'll be on a road where the speed limit is 70 or 75 and FSD still shows the speed limit at 60.

Anyone else experience this?

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The problem I had on the interstate is the speed limit was 70 mph. But occasionally there will be a sign that says "minimum speed 40 mph." The signs appear exactly the same except for the min/max words. Tesla doesn't slam on the brakes but it noticeably slows down. Scares me every time.


I don't necessarily blame Tesla. The signs should be different, but Tesla needs to fix this.

Mine is pretty good with speed limits. One road to/from work pisses me off. The county has a 55 mph limit sign on one side but didn't put the sign on the other side. So even though everyone else knows it's 55 there, Tesla still thinks it's 45 mph. Can't really blame Tesla for that.

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In my last FSD trial late last year, I noticed it doing this for exit speed signs, so it would go from 70 to 35 mph.

Estimated 440 miles of range
400 kW max charging rate
108 to 112 kWh usable battery capacity
Expected starting price $50k to 60k



https://www.bmwusa.com/vehicles/3-series/sedan/bmw-i3-sedan.html

Good to see some sedan competition in lieu of another SUV

That's a good looking car, but one thing that is insane to me is all the different EVs use a different connector (I know you can use adapters but come on) in a different spot. With as many superchargers are out there it would make sense to me to have all companies use the Tesla connector on the rear drivers side.
I hate seeing a Rivian or Mustang parked all wonky at a crowded Supercharger location.

Paying more and having to actually drive yourself.

Peasants.

GeorgiAg said:

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Paying more and having to actually drive yourself.

Peasants.

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'That's not self-driving': Lawsuit slams Tesla tech after Houston Cybertruck crash | FOX 4 Dallas-Fort Worth

In Houston.
Video included

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I bought a set of AW21 from Atomic Wheels in 18". They are still in storage since I am waiting for the stock tires to be more worn before replacing. 2024 M3P with 23,399 miles and the stock P-Zeros are at 6mm depth still. Once they are ready to go, I will get some 235/45-18 All Seasons. I am averaging 250 watts per mile right now on my commute, I am eager to see what the 18s can do.

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I got some AW21s slapped on a couple weeks ago and I'm happy so far. I went with 19s so I could get 9.5" wide and went with Arroyo Grand Sport A/S UHP All Season 275/45ZR19 for $411 shipped from WalMart.com. I was going to have them install them for $25 w/ comparable coverage to DT Certificates but the process got jacked up and I didn't want to wait 4 hours for install so I paid $160 to the shop down the street. I wanted to bronze ones but they were too 'gold' for my liking and the darker rims I saw were all forged so more than I wanted to spend.

Anybody interested in near perfect 21" Uberturbines?

It is not perfect but stil WAY better than human drivers.

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GeorgiAg said:

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Paying more and having to actually drive yourself.

Peasants.

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'That's not self-driving': Lawsuit slams Tesla tech after Houston Cybertruck crash | FOX 4 Dallas-Fort Worth

In Houston.
Video included

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She disengaged 4 seconds before impact. She's ******ed. That was plenty of time for the cyber truck to stop or for her to stop the cyber truck. Alas, she just let it slam in to the barrier.

Yep, disengaged and said LEEEEEROOOOY JEEEENKINS then blamed it on the car that is undoubtedly a better driver than she has ever been or ever will be.

yep. A Tesla could probably stop in that distance going 100 mph.

Very nice! I went with bronze because my taste is still stuck in the early 2000s.

I am new to this thread and new to Tesla. I am considering trading current vehicle, for a new MY. The online estimate from Tesla for my trade is about 3000 less than an offer from a local dealer. Is there anyway to remedy this difference with Tesla before showing up for the deal? Anyone have a recommendation for this? This might be addressed someone in this thread, but could not get through all 25 pages yet.

agjddoc said:

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I am new to this thread and new to Tesla. I am considering trading current vehicle, for a new MY. The online estimate from Tesla for my trade is about 3000 less than an offer from a local dealer. Is there anyway to remedy this difference with Tesla before showing up for the deal? Anyone have a recommendation for this? This might be addressed someone in this thread, but could not get through all 25 pages yet.

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Can you get a competing quote from Carmax? If so and it's good sell it to them then give Tesla the cash.

LOYAL AG said:

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agjddoc said:

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I am new to this thread and new to Tesla. I am considering trading current vehicle, for a new MY. The online estimate from Tesla for my trade is about 3000 less than an offer from a local dealer. Is there anyway to remedy this difference with Tesla before showing up for the deal? Anyone have a recommendation for this? This might be addressed someone in this thread, but could not get through all 25 pages yet.

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Can you get a competing quote from Carmax? If so and it's good sell it to them then give Tesla the cash.

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Try to sell here as well. What kinda of car?

I doubt you can get anyone to talk to at Tesla to negotiate.

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Very nice! I went with bronze because my taste is still stuck in the early 2000s.

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Sweet post some pics. I couldn't find much w/ the bronze on red Teslas when looking for pics.

LOYAL AG said:

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agjddoc said:

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I am new to this thread and new to Tesla. I am considering trading current vehicle, for a new MY. The online estimate from Tesla for my trade is about 3000 less than an offer from a local dealer. Is there anyway to remedy this difference with Tesla before showing up for the deal? Anyone have a recommendation for this? This might be addressed someone in this thread, but could not get through all 25 pages yet.

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Can you get a competing quote from Carmax? If so and it's good sell it to them then give Tesla the cash.

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Why even haggle with them? Just sell the car for the higher amount and pocket the cash/apply to purchase price of Tesla.

Tesla gave me 60 months 0% interest. I had the cash, but that's free money. I invested in the market. Even at 4% rate you can get parking it in cash, it's still a no-brainer.

I did not trade my Porshe Boxster and it's still in my barn. I drive it every now and then but am going to sell it private market soon. So if you are lazy/sentimentally attached to the car like me, just trade in.

GeorgiAg said:

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LOYAL AG said:

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agjddoc said:

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I am new to this thread and new to Tesla. I am considering trading current vehicle, for a new MY. The online estimate from Tesla for my trade is about 3000 less than an offer from a local dealer. Is there anyway to remedy this difference with Tesla before showing up for the deal? Anyone have a recommendation for this? This might be addressed someone in this thread, but could not get through all 25 pages yet.

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Can you get a competing quote from Carmax? If so and it's good sell it to them then give Tesla the cash.

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Why even haggle with them? Just sell the car for the higher amount and pocket the cash/apply to purchase price of Tesla.

Tesla gave me 60 months 0% interest. I had the cash, but that's free money. I invested in the market. Even at 4% rate you can get parking it in cash, it's still a no-brainer.

I did not trade my Porshe Boxster and it's still in my barn. I drive it every now and then but am going to sell it private market soon. So if you are lazy/sentimentally attached to the car like me, just trade in.

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If you get that 0% from them it's an easy decision but if you don't time that right then the trade in impacts your loan and those your total cash. All I'm doing is suggesting he shop his trade around. Way too many people see buying a car as one transaction when it's usually 2-4. Buy a car. Buy a loan. Sell a car. Buy a warranty. Separate them, that's really my point.

depending on the value of the trade, the tax savings can be substantial.

Also, what is the value of your time? I wish I had traded my Porsche Boxster in. Now I have to clean it up, take pictures, list it and deal with the hassle of showing it to people, test drives, etc. Also, ensuring the payment is secure, etc...

I thought I would still drive it some, but I rarely do.

How are you charging at home?

El Chupacabra said:

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How are you charging at home?

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Are you asking anyone in particular? I would imagine everyone on this thread has a Tesla home charger. You'll need space for a 60A breaker and you'll have to run 6/3 wire from the panel to the charger. I found a place in Houston that sells the wire for $2.80/foot which saved me a ton of money because I needed $100 feet of it and the big box stores sell it for $8/foot.

I had a 14-50 installed and use the Tesla Mobile Connector.