My cost at home is

Winter
First 500 kWh $0.0460 per kWh
Next 500 kWh $0.0720 per kWh
Over 1000 kWh $0.0645 per kWh

Summer
First 500 kWh $0.0460 per kWh
Next 500 kWh $0.0900 per kWh
Over 1000 kWh $0.1058 per kWh

EV Rate
On Peak: June 1- September 30, Monday Friday, 2PM to 8PM - $0.203 per kWh
Off Peak: All hours not included in On Peak or Super Off-Peak Periods - $0.060 per kWh
Super Off Peak: 11PM 7AM Each Day $0.040 per kWh

see the highlighted language above. The *******s were going to charge me $.203 per kWh on ALL ELECTRIC USE during the summer from 2 PM to 8 PM, and I couldn't go back to the old rate for 12 months. I usually only have to recharge about 300kWH per month. My total electric usage ranges anywhere from 1,500 kWh to 5,000 kwh depending on the month. That is NOT a good deal to sign on for the electric vehicle rate for me.

Still, the cost at a Supercharger is $0.35 per kWh. You are throwing away money if you don't install a charger at home. Plus, my provider gave me a $250 credit for installing the charge

Sea Speed said:

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El Chupacabra said:

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How are you charging at home?

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Are you asking anyone in particular? I would imagine everyone on this thread has a Tesla home charger. You'll need space for a 60A breaker and you'll have to run 6/3 wire from the panel to the charger. I found a place in Houston that sells the wire for $2.80/foot which saved me a ton of money because I needed $100 feet of it and the big box stores sell it for $8/foot.

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Yeah, any and all. I might buy one...and I know nothing about charging other than a couple youtubes I spent 5 minutes watching.

Sounds like 3 options.

Regular old plug, nonsense...I'm guessing no one does that.

14-50...basically a dryer plug I think (cost to install). Charges enough to 'fill up' overnight.

Tesla Charger....(higher cost to install)

El Chupacabra said:

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Sea Speed said:

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El Chupacabra said:

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How are you charging at home?

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Are you asking anyone in particular? I would imagine everyone on this thread has a Tesla home charger. You'll need space for a 60A breaker and you'll have to run 6/3 wire from the panel to the charger. I found a place in Houston that sells the wire for $2.80/foot which saved me a ton of money because I needed $100 feet of it and the big box stores sell it for $8/foot.

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Yeah, any and all. I might buy one...and I know nothing about charging other than a couple youtubes I spent 5 minutes watching.

Sounds like 3 options.

Regular old plug, nonsense...I'm guessing no one does that.

14-50...basically a dryer plug I think (cost to install). Charges enough to 'fill up' overnight.

Tesla Charger....(higher cost to install)

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I hate to post A.I. but since I'm already in it asking about rates and stuff. (It figured out the EV rate my provider was offering would actually cost me MORE).

A dryer outlet is fine for regular use. The only time you need the Tesla Wall charger is rare. E.g., One day I went to work for a half day, then was going to leave on a long trip around 5 pm. I wanted to get maximum charge in the shortest period of time. That is the only type situation you would want/need the Tesla wall charger.

AI:

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Tesla Home Charging: Wall Connector vs. Mobile Connector (Model 3)
For anyone weighing whether a Wall Connector is worth it over the Mobile Connector, here's the practical breakdown:

Wall Connector (hardwired, dedicated 60A circuit)

• 48 amps max / 11.5 kW
• ~44 miles of range added per hour

Mobile Connector (portable) varies by outlet:

• NEMA 14-50 (range/RV outlet): 32A / 7.7 kW / ~30 miles per hour
• NEMA 14-30 (dryer outlet): 24A / 5.75 kW / ~23 miles per hour
• NEMA 6-20 (workshop outlet): 16A / 3.8 kW / ~15 miles per hour

The Wall Connector is roughly:

• 50% faster than the Mobile Connector on a NEMA 14-50
• Nearly double on a dryer outlet

Practical reality check: If you're averaging ~8 kWh of actual daily driving, even the slowest option above will fully replenish a typical day's drive in under 2 hours overnight. The Wall Connector is a genuine upgrade, but your actual daily usage pattern may not demand it.

Supercharger comparison: $0.35/kWh vs. roughly $0.08-0.10/kWh at home home charging saves approximately $75/month or $900/year at typical EV usage levels. The math on installing a home charger is hard to argue with.

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You can find a Tesla charger on FB for about $300. It's just a charger so I don't find any reason not to get savings there. You can get the wire for dirt cheap in Houston, I'll send you the location if you would like. You can also get the 60A breaker at home depot. If you run the wire yourself, you can be out of this for dirt cheap. I needed about 100 feet of wire, so $280. Ran it through my attic myself then had to pop a tile on my backsplash to get access to the wall where it was installed. Drilled a hole in my brick and mounted the back plate of the charger and ran the wire out of it.

I bought the conduit for the wire from my attic to the breaker box and then called the electrician to install the breaker and connect the wiring on both ends. That was a 1 hour service call of $150 iirc.

So all in was:
$300 for charger
$280 for wire
~$40 for breaker and conduit/fittings
$150 for electrician


$770 total for the highest level of at home charging and an afternoon of work running the wire through the attic and across the house.


Also forgot I spent about $15 on impact drill bits and borrowed an impact drill from a neighbor to get through the brick.

Also, check with your provider for EV rates, night charging rates, wall charger rebates, etc. You can set your Tesla to charge in the middle of the night if rates are cheaper. The Tesla Wall charger will pay for itself over time, especially given the price of gas now. That won't last forever, but an EV is still less expensive for "gas" even if gas is at $1.75 per gallon.

El Chupacabra said:

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Sea Speed said:

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El Chupacabra said:

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How are you charging at home?

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Are you asking anyone in particular? I would imagine everyone on this thread has a Tesla home charger. You'll need space for a 60A breaker and you'll have to run 6/3 wire from the panel to the charger. I found a place in Houston that sells the wire for $2.80/foot which saved me a ton of money because I needed $100 feet of it and the big box stores sell it for $8/foot.

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Yeah, any and all. I might buy one...and I know nothing about charging other than a couple youtubes I spent 5 minutes watching.

Sounds like 3 options.

Regular old plug, nonsense...I'm guessing no one does that.

14-50...basically a dryer plug I think (cost to install). Charges enough to 'fill up' overnight.

Tesla Charger....(higher cost to install)

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The Tesla charger js 50% faster than a 14-50 but for me the calculus came down to it being a dedicated device only for car charging and it leaves the mobile cable in the car where this forgetful guy needs it. I don't care to go somewhere without that cable and I'm plenty of capable of doing just that. I paid an electrician $1000 to install it primarily because the garage breaker box was full so they had to double up on a couple of regular slots to make room for the Tesla ones. Yes I could have done it myself. No I don't want to.

Check this out -- saw this electrician on X that invented this: https://evchargeright.com/

Maybe worth $13 to see if you need a panel upgrade or not.

I paid an electrician about $300 to install mine about 3 feet from my panel in the garage.

My uncle died. I have to make a road trip from Atlanta, GA to Miss. I'm gonna insist on the Tesla because of self-driving and cost of gas and the wife is going to protest. Should be fun.

GeorgiAg said:

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My uncle died. I have to make a road trip from Atlanta, GA to Miss. I'm gonna insist on the Tesla because of self-driving and cost of gas and the wife is going to protest. Should be fun.

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Why will she protest? My wife was lukewarm to FSD until my Y drove us from College Station to Colorado Springs and back last year. Now she loves it.

Meant to tell you guys this last week but I actually got a flat at 11pm in San Antonio and Tesla roadside sent a tow truck. Told me to leave the key card in it and lock the car and go to my hotel to settle in. The driver called me when he got there so I could unlock the car then he took care of the rest. Easiest tow I've ever had. They took it to an SA area service center where I ended up getting a set of tires because the flat one couldn't be repaired and the others were pretty worn. Definitely happy with the tow service included with the car.

Not sure what I hit but it got flat fast. The car said "you've got low tire pressure" so I swiped to the tire pressure tile and watched it go 18 - 15 - 12 - 10 - 8 - 5 - 0 in about the time it took me to type that on my phone. I was doing 75 in the left lane on 410 and ended up on the right shoulder at the Military exit a few seconds later. No wheel damage fortunately.

Yeah, I had a blowout couple of months ago on I 10 near Boerne. The roadside service from Tesla was really impressive. I just requested Service through the app and within 30 minutes some dude in a cyber truck rolled up with a floor jack and a spare tire. Had me rolling in about 10 more minutes.

My only complaint is that it was a emasculating enough to have to call someone to change my tire since I would normally do that myself, but it was even worse to have them roll up in a cyber truck.

That's funny!

I had a Cybertruck as a loaner from the Cypress service center a couple of weeks ago when my Y was in for an unknown rattle and it was huge. Freaking huge! Barely fit in our garage and it's oversized. I told people it was like driving a meme.

Serious question, what do you do while the car is driving for you?

I rode with my dad the other day and it seemed pretty boring. He loves it though.

Podcasts, Youtube, Audible

It took me a week or so to get used to it but FSD is great. I commute 100 miles a day on I35 and only take over to park at the destination.

Corps_Ag12 said:

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Serious question, what do you do while the car is driving for you?

I rode with my dad the other day and it seemed pretty boring. He loves it though.

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audiobooks, supervise the self driving

imo, you want the self driving to be super boring. no excitement or unexpected actions from a self driving car, please

Corps_Ag12 said:

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Serious question, what do you do while the car is driving for you?

I rode with my dad the other day and it seemed pretty boring. He loves it though.

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I have a phone mount that is near line of sight, so the inside camera and Tesla don't flag me for not paying attention. I never do it in any sort of traffic, but on long trips where the traffic thins out on the interstate, we watch a sporting event, movie, tv show, etc... I will shift my complete attention to the road when the situation warrants, but it's pretty much in line of sight anyway. I just have to move my eyes, not my head.

Tesla, as it stands now, is faster reacting than a human and it will only get better from here on out.

LOYAL AG said:

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GeorgiAg said:

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My uncle died. I have to make a road trip from Atlanta, GA to Miss. I'm gonna insist on the Tesla because of self-driving and cost of gas and the wife is going to protest. Should be fun.

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Why will she protest? My wife was lukewarm to FSD until my Y drove us from College Station to Colorado Springs and back last year. Now she loves it.

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She didn't protest at all. I laid out the Supercharger network and how much battery % along the way to and from and all the stops (one in Cottondale, AL for "six" minutes - can't even take a whiz and get some food/drinks that fast!). My sister is going to join us for the ride as well. She was surprised at the Supercharger network being in all these rural towns, but the network is awesome. We have multiple options where to stop in Alabama and Mississippi. I picked a hotel in Meridian right near a 325 kW Supercharger. The town where the funeral is also has a Supercharger. 150 kW.

And on top of that, there is the plug share app for other available (slower) chargers.

Do you have Tesla auto insurance or did they do this simply because it was a Tesla? I don't recall a roadside assistance option when i got my Y.

I didn't have Tesla insurance. I just found the roadside assistance option in the app as I was on the side of the road. They didn't charge me for the service but only because I had to buy the tire

LOYAL AG said:

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That's funny!

I had a Cybertruck as a loaner from the Cypress service center a couple of weeks ago when my Y was in for an unknown rattle and it was huge. Freaking huge! Barely fit in our garage and it's oversized. I told people it was like driving a meme.

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What was the rattle? My '23 MYP has a couple that annoy me.

GeorgiAg said:

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Corps_Ag12 said:

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Serious question, what do you do while the car is driving for you?

I rode with my dad the other day and it seemed pretty boring. He loves it though.

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I have a phone mount that is near line of sight, so the inside camera and Tesla don't flag me for not paying attention. I never do it in any sort of traffic, but on long trips where the traffic thins out on the interstate, we watch a sporting event, movie, tv show, etc... I will shift my complete attention to the road when the situation warrants, but it's pretty much in line of sight anyway. I just have to move my eyes, not my head.

Tesla, as it stands now, is faster reacting than a human and it will only get better from here on out.

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I miss the days of watching the Stros on Fubo in the browser while driving.

drumboy said:

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LOYAL AG said:

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That's funny!

I had a Cybertruck as a loaner from the Cypress service center a couple of weeks ago when my Y was in for an unknown rattle and it was huge. Freaking huge! Barely fit in our garage and it's oversized. I told people it was like driving a meme.

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What was the rattle? My '23 MYP has a couple that annoy me.

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The as yet undiagnosed rattle is a deep low volume rumble that happens sometimes but not all the time. The tech thinks it's a wheel bearing but he didn't hear it so hard to say. Haven't heard it since I got the new tires a week ago which is interesting.

GeorgiAg said:

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LOYAL AG said:

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GeorgiAg said:

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My uncle died. I have to make a road trip from Atlanta, GA to Miss. I'm gonna insist on the Tesla because of self-driving and cost of gas and the wife is going to protest. Should be fun.

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Why will she protest? My wife was lukewarm to FSD until my Y drove us from College Station to Colorado Springs and back last year. Now she loves it.

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She didn't protest at all. I laid out the Supercharger network and how much battery % along the way to and from and all the stops (one in Cottondale, AL for "six" minutes - can't even take a whiz and get some food/drinks that fast!). My sister is going to join us for the ride as well. She was surprised at the Supercharger network being in all these rural towns, but the network is awesome. We have multiple options where to stop in Alabama and Mississippi. I picked a hotel in Meridian right near a 325 kW Supercharger. The town where the funeral is also has a Supercharger. 150 kW.

And on top of that, there is the plug share app for other available (slower) chargers.

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That was our experience as well. Let it drive to the charger and park, plug it in and go eat or to the restroom, etc then unplug it and tell it to drive. Wash, rinse repeat.

On all the long trips I've been on, the charging has been faster than the time I could take a whiz, order some fast food and eat it.

GeorgiAg said:

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On all the long trips I've been on, the charging has been faster than the time I could take a whiz, order some fast food and eat it.

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Mixed results there but when the car is driving it's super easy to eat. I actually ate a banana split a few weeks ago while mine was driving us home.

I guess I enjoy the driving

Corps_Ag12 said:

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I guess I enjoy the driving

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Get that completely. I like driving but increasingly I see it as a means to an end. I still drive sometimes but long trips it's driving particularly if I have to be engaged in something when I get there. I've used it to drive 3+ hours to a clients office and been a lot more alert when I got there. It's just an easier trip when you aren't dialed in every minute of a trip starting at 5 am.

Corps_Ag12 said:

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I guess I enjoy the driving

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Do you enjoy highway driving and traffic? Just curious.

Do they not have a spare tire? You have to call for service when you get a flat?

Jack Boyett said:

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Do they not have a spare tire? You have to call for service when you get a flat?

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Correct

JAW3336 said:

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Jack Boyett said:

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Do they not have a spare tire? You have to call for service when you get a flat?

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Correct

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But don't they have run flats so you can drive a short distance?

I recently got non run flats and I'm thinking I need a plug kit and 12v pump. At least I can repair a front tire.