I don't mind the turn signals. The terrible auto windshield wipers piss me off. Wipe with zero water on the windshield? Check. No wipe with the windshield completely covered with water? Check. Random changes in frequency that in no way correspond to the rate of precipitation? Check.

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I also recently drove my Nissan Titan truck for the first time in a long time. Aside from being bothered by the relatively ginormous size, I also forgot to put it in park twice and got out of it without turning it off.

You definitely get used to driving the Tesla.

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Oh man. This is me every time I drive my truck that now feels like an antique.

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One thing I noticed in the FSD trial, is when I get on the freeway and activate FSD, it wants to slow waaaay down until I hit the accelerator or toggle between Hurry & Mad Max.

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You need to be activating FSD waaaaay before you get on the freeway.

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The ONLY thing I absolutely hate about the Tesla is the turn signal indicator buttons. I can never remember which is which. Bring back the stalk or at least put one button on each side of the steering wheel.

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They actually did bring back the stalk. I was recently talking to the GM from the League City store. I told him we intentionally got a pre-refresh Y because I'd driven a 3 and didn't like the turn signal buttons. He said they got a lot of that so the new Y has a stalk and they brought it back on the 3 for 2026.

Another improvement with FSD. I was on FSD and exited the highway. I was mapped to go straight through the intersection but it suddenly slowed down and went to the right lane which made no sense for me as it was a green light.

A few secs later, a police car with their lights on passed me and then the car quickly changed lane to continue the drive. Amazing that the car saw/reacted way before I could.

My car is at the shop getting the bumper and windshield replaced after hitting some flying debris so I'm in a rental Ford Explorer. Not a bad car but man I miss the Tesla. I don't think I have remembered to lock this vehicle once in the last two days.

Anyone else find FSD 14.2.1 worse? I don't use FSD as much now because of it.

MadMax mode now barely goes over the speed limit. Too timid.

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Anyone else find FSD 14.2.1 worse? I don't use FSD as much now because of it.

MadMax mode now barely goes over the speed limit. Too timid.

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You aint riding the Acceleration peddle enough! I use it to push faster but Mad Max just seems more lane change happy is what I've noticed.

When 14 first came out, I barely used MadMax. It would go more than 15 mph over and was too aggressive. Whatever they did limited it. Standard won't even go the speed limit.

Yeah, I rode the accelerator pedal a bunch this morning. Something happened with navigation too. It used to drive and pull into the employee lot at work, but now it wants to pull into the client lot. I've tried dropping a pin, but it now wants to turn into the lot next door.

Seems like they screwed up the speed limits on some roads I travel too. Some are way off now. They were good before.

I've seen a good number of posts on X saying the same.

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GeorgiAg said:

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Anyone else find FSD 14.2.1 worse? I don't use FSD as much now because of it.

MadMax mode now barely goes over the speed limit. Too timid.

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You aint riding the Acceleration peddle enough! I use it to push faster but Mad Max just seems more lane change happy is what I've noticed.

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Hurry tops out at 70 & MadMax at 80 in I-10 in Houston, can I use the accelerator to increase the speed it cruises?

I have the speed offset at like +14 and it doesn't seem to make a difference.

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Anyone else find FSD 14.2.1 worse? I don't use FSD as much now because of it.

MadMax mode now barely goes over the speed limit. Too timid.

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Definitely noticed that the speed relative to the limit is much different than when I first got v14 with observations being basically what you posted. I really liked the first v14 because I had a lot more control over it since each tier was a legitimately different driving profile. Now it seems like Mad Max and Hurry are basically the same at about 10% over while Standard and Chill are the same at or close to the limit. Either way the first v14 I never used Mad Max because it was too aggressive but now I'm using it and irritated at how timid it is.

NHTSA investigations caused them to tame it.

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GeorgiAg said:

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Anyone else find FSD 14.2.1 worse? I don't use FSD as much now because of it.

MadMax mode now barely goes over the speed limit. Too timid.

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You aint riding the Acceleration peddle enough! I use it to push faster but Mad Max just seems more lane change happy is what I've noticed.

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Hurry tops out at 70 & MadMax at 80 in I-10 in Houston, can I use the accelerator to increase the speed it cruises?

I have the speed offset at like +14 and it doesn't seem to make a difference.

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I typically am milking the gas pedal but usually 85mph is the limit before the car starts demanding you take over immediately if you go above it.

I drove from Atlanta to Savannah. The old Mad Max was 85. Hurry was about 82 mph.

The nerfed it.

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GeorgiAg said:

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Anyone else find FSD 14.2.1 worse? I don't use FSD as much now because of it.

MadMax mode now barely goes over the speed limit. Too timid.

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You aint riding the Acceleration peddle enough! I use it to push faster but Mad Max just seems more lane change happy is what I've noticed.

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Hurry tops out at 70 & MadMax at 80 in I-10 in Houston, can I use the accelerator to increase the speed it cruises?

I have the speed offset at like +14 and it doesn't seem to make a difference.

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I typically am milking the gas pedal but usually 85mph is the limit before the car starts demanding you take over immediately if you go above it.

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85 is the max no matter the speed limit or profile you're on.

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I don't mind the turn signals. The terrible auto windshield wipers piss me off. Wipe with zero water on the windshield? Check. No wipe with the windshield completely covered with water? Check. Random changes in frequency that in no way correspond to the rate of precipitation? Check.

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I've never driven any vehicle with auto wipers that work correctly. Just give me the damned variable intermittent wiper stalk with the rheostat wheel please.

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The ONLY thing I absolutely hate about the Tesla is the turn signal indicator buttons. I can never remember which is which. Bring back the stalk or at least put one button on each side of the steering wheel.

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Ferrari, of all manu., figured this out in 2013! Why no one has copied this is a good question.

I don't know… seems to me turn signals were figured out many decades ago.

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GeorgiAg said:

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The ONLY thing I absolutely hate about the Tesla is the turn signal indicator buttons. I can never remember which is which. Bring back the stalk or at least put one button on each side of the steering wheel.

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Ferrari, of all manu., figured this out in 2013! Why no one has copied this is a good question.

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That would have been fine. But they put both buttons on the left. I can never remember which is which.

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agracer said:

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GeorgiAg said:

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The ONLY thing I absolutely hate about the Tesla is the turn signal indicator buttons. I can never remember which is which. Bring back the stalk or at least put one button on each side of the steering wheel.

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Ferrari, of all manu., figured this out in 2013! Why no one has copied this is a good question.

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That would have been fine. But they put both buttons on the left. I can never remember which is which.

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WTF would they do that? That's just dumb. Was it the same people who designed iOS26?

Ever have fsd not even follow it's own route?

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Ever have fsd not even follow it's own route?

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This morning I had it driving home from the gym and it randomly decided to turn into a gas station of all places. Often I'll let it do its thing just for entertainment but I cut it off this time and drove the rest of the way myself.

Yes, one time the Tesla turned onto a road before the road it was supposed to take. I just stopped it and reported it. They'll get all these bugs worked out over time.

There definitely still some bugs.

I have not noticed slower speeds on different FSD modes. I typically drive 5-10mph above the speed limit and Standard/Hurry typically meets this. I was on I10 yesterday and put in mad max and it seems plenty fast.

One big plus for me with FSD is picking which roads to take when a highway splits into 3+ different options. Without FSD, I would sometimes guess between two options. Now when I am not sure, I just switch to FSD and let it figure out which is correct.

I have slowly increased my FSD adoption to about 95%+ hwy and 60+% on city. Overall a great experience and I would trust it to be a robotaxi today.

I know, dear diary,

Interesting conversation with an Atlanta judge last night. Christmas party season. His wife and my fiance are nurses. I'm a lawyer. I was talking to him about the Teslas and long story short everybody was drinking. The usual "be safe" etc. as everyone was getting ready to leave. We started to discuss how Teslas and other autonomous vehicles will have future effects on legal cases.

If the Tesla performs as it usually does, ie, perfect, no cop could pull you over. Even if he did and you were drunk as a skunk, lack of probable cause would lead to an exclusion of evidence of anything after that. They couldn't prosecute you.

Sorry. Legal nerding out. Also. This is in no way saying anyone should do this and if you do this F you. You still have to be sober watching this robot drive you home. But imagining a future with no drunk driving and no one being hurt is kinda cool.

My parents are about to pull the trigger on a new Model Y, so I will get to see HW4 at some point.

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I know, dear diary,

Interesting conversation with an Atlanta judge last night. Christmas party season. His wife and my fiance are nurses. I'm a lawyer. I was talking to him about the Teslas and long story short everybody was drinking. The usual "be safe" etc. as everyone was getting ready to leave. We started to discuss how Teslas and other autonomous vehicles will have future effects on legal cases.

If the Tesla performs as it usually does, ie, perfect, no cop could pull you over. Even if he did and you were drunk as a skunk, lack of probable cause would lead to an exclusion of evidence of anything after that. They couldn't prosecute you.

Sorry. Legal nerding out. Also. This is in no way saying anyone should do this and if you do this F you. You still have to be sober watching this robot drive you home. But imagining a future with no drunk driving and no one being hurt is kinda cool.

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I would assume as long as it's officially Level 2 or 3 that you're still responsible for how it drives. You're the attorney so I'll defer but that would be my assumption.

Anyone else notice that the new app and the recent iPhone update is nuking your phone's battery?

If you have the updated app version, check your charging passport for a chance to win free supercharging for life.

GeorgiAg said:

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I know, dear diary,

Interesting conversation with an Atlanta judge last night. Christmas party season. His wife and my fiance are nurses. I'm a lawyer. I was talking to him about the Teslas and long story short everybody was drinking. The usual "be safe" etc. as everyone was getting ready to leave. We started to discuss how Teslas and other autonomous vehicles will have future effects on legal cases.

If the Tesla performs as it usually does, ie, perfect, no cop could pull you over. Even if he did and you were drunk as a skunk, lack of probable cause would lead to an exclusion of evidence of anything after that. They couldn't prosecute you.

Sorry. Legal nerding out. Also. This is in no way saying anyone should do this and if you do this F you. You still have to be sober watching this robot drive you home. But imagining a future with no drunk driving and no one being hurt is kinda cool.

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This scenario, or similar, is why I'm considering a Tesla. But for seizures, not drinking. Since you guys are familiar with the actual use of the feature, maybe I can ask for opinions on here. I have been adequately managing my seizure issue for about 20 years with zero breaks since being on a specific medication. However, since ACA came along I've been dropped by countless insurances and have fought for keeping my meds literally every year due to how expensive it is. That said, eventually ill have to either ween off of it or switch to generics because of how badly ACA screwed up healthcare and my life overall (not getting political, but this has been an ongoing hell that is only getting worse and worse), which I really hesitate to do since it took me a long time to finally find something that works and I don't want to mess it up. While sorting out my meds back in undergrad, I had a seizure while driving and refused to drive for 2 years after finding the current meds that worked to be safe. Because of that I won't put anyone in a dangerous situation by driving while sorting out the medication issue now. And along comes the FSD option to save the day. Maybe...?

So...background of my situation above out of the way...what would the car do if I were driving and I had a seizure? It would be the same circumstance as passing out while drunk. Would the car just keep doing its thing on its own? Would it pull over and stop? It would be amazing if I could drive without fear of hurting someone or myself, and this could eventually give a realistic option of transitioning to meds without literally being stuck without any sort of transportation option, which is the reality I'm facing otherwise.

I believe if you become incapacitated with the latest FSD enabled and running, the car puts the hazards on and pulls over. I don't think it will engage FSD in the event you were self driving and had an episode.

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I believe if you become incapacitated with the latest FSD enabled and running, the car puts the hazards on and pulls over. I don't think it will engage FSD in the event you were self driving and had an episode.

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Thats cool, thanks.

Follow up question. Is FSD at the point, or close to, where it can be used for 100% of daily driving? I have a few years of my meds stocked up waiting for when I get cut off completely, so hopefully it'l mature to the point where I can take advantage whenever I have no choice but to give up.

Also, there's supposedly a holiday update coming tonight. Folks are reading this tweet and speculating that it's full self drive (versus supervised self drive). Who knows though.

Just saying https://t.co/9ORq0wV0fq

— Tesla (@Tesla) December 14, 2025

Damned close, if not there already. I only ever disengage mine out of irritation at this point (i.e. sometimes it gets a little hesitant to change lanes when someone lies letting me over, not being aggressive turning across traffic where there's clearly room, etc). I haven't had it do anything unsafe since the last update.

I got a second update last night after the holiday update. HW3 though. Really kicking myself for not getting hw4 rn.