Manchester United 2024-25 Thread

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Mathguy64
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There are some stupidly sketchy tackles on both sides out there and Kavanaugh is just letting it happen. And because of that they are getting worse.
Dre_00
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I thought for sure VAR was going to call Hojlund for handball
Mathguy64
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Colwell just shoves and shoves and shoves Hojlund before that kick. Maybe just maybe the referee could blow a whistle before the kick and tell him to stop it?
Mathguy64
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Colwell is intentionally letting his shirt come off. He's ducking and pulling back.
Mathguy64
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That is such a bad call by Kavanaugh.

Yes the Law says no jewelry. I will absolutely guarantee you half of the players out there have something. Either medals taped down or hidden in socks. Not to mention they are ALL checked in dressing rooms prior to the match.

It's just chicken***** And I will also guarantee it came from a Chelsea player.
Dre_00
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If VAR doesn't overturn this penalty then there's no point in VAR
Mathguy64
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Ok. First off what the hell is Onana doing there? Second that's simulation.
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I mean you have to give a card here. You literally just said "i was tricked into a bad call".
Dre_00
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lmao...and then he cards Amad for simulation. Which it was but be consistent man.
Mathguy64
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Now he calls simulation. English referees are so so so bad.
Dre_00
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Garnacho subs in and immediately gets put in the spin cycle
Dre_00
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It's too late now and it probably wouldn't have worked but probably should have tried a false 9 for 2-3 games when it was clear it was EL or bust. There is no saving Hojlund this season. Maybe not even possible to save his United career. Don't think I've seen a player play with such little confidence for so long.
Dre_00
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Heaven getting 10 minutes. Maybe he can play 45 on Wednesday if we're in a pinch.
Mathguy64
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Heaven getting minutes. Thats good to see. The more defenders who are healthy for next week the better.
Dre_00
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It's impressive how incompetent United have been since about the 80th minute. I don't think they've touched the ball in Chelsea's half in 15 minutes.
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Cole Palmer has a very punchable face and I hope someone takes him up on it.
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Clearly I hope we win on Wednesday but I am fully in the camp that it won't save this season or the club. What a horrible team.
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I don't think I've ever liked a coach that has failed so hard as Amorim. And make no mistake, his premier league tenure so far has been a failure. Even if he somehow wins the Europa league against Tottenham, I don't know how he rids the squad of the loser PL mentality.
Dre_00
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I think it has been too. But I also think this was always a possible scenario when they hired him in November. They really put him in a tough position. So tough of a position that you should only pull the trigger and bring him in if you are willing to give him 2+ seasons to show results.

The entire club is an absolute mess. He needs to show progress next season but he also needs to be supported this summer. United may be budgeting for EL football next season but realistically, 10th would be a marked improvement over this complete embarrassment of a team. Unless United are in a legitimate relegation battle, he deserves more time.
Mathguy64
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The EL match will make or break this team for next year. Without the income I don't see them being able to make any real player changes.
Showstopper
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Spurs lose, we lose, El Crapico here we come!

Edit: When the stoppable force of Spurs meets the movable object of United!
Showstopper
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In all seriousness, United v. Spurs is surely the matchup of the two lowest ranked teams in their domestic leagues in any UEFA competition in history; difficult to imagine worse since we are both just ahead of the relegation slots.
Dre_00
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If/when United lose to Villa next weekend, they will complete the season with 2 points from a possible 27. While Amorim was put in a difficult position, even just a couple of wins during that span would have been useful for next season and there's really no excuse for such a poor run. As a result, the external pressure at the start of next season will be much higher than one would want it to be for a guy going into his first full EPL season.
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What's funny is that we were ahead in xG in 5 of the 8 matches. Some pretty significantly.

So, you know, that's a good reason to buy forwards. It is painful to watch Hojlund and Garnacho right now; I think they are both talented, but I'm not sure either one is here at the start of next year. On the bright side for them, if Antony can go elsewhere and resurrect his career, they certainly can.
Dre_00
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Hojlund bears responsibility but United have failed him this season. A 21 yr old forward whose career best goal total in a season is 10 should not be one of two options on your first team roster.

I would be surprised if he leaves in the summer. He's 22, had a decent year last season, his market value is in the gutter, and the roster is woefully thin at forward even with him on it. If Amorim thinks he's unsalvageable and incapable in his system, then they'll cut their losses I guess. But if they do, they'll likely get 30 cents on the dollar and then they'll again start next season with a roster that is way too thin at forward.
Dre_00
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Yoro, Dalot, and Zirkzee all in training today. Maybe Yoro has a chance to start?
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I don't think we have both Zirkzee and Hojlund as squad striker options next year, so I expect one of the two to move. We won't get as much as we need for either, so it could be a loan to buy type of thing. I know Zirkzee says he's a 9.5, but we will have a fair number of 10 options as well.

Edit: And I'm not saying this is his fault. Three years ago we needed to replace CR7 and Martial; Hojlund should have been the Martial replacement, but he became the Ronaldo replacement with no Martial replacement which was never going to be fair.
Dre_00
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I'd be more inclined to move Zirkzee as he probably has a higher transfer/loan value than Hojlund and he likely will never fit into Amorim's system. Hojlund at least in theory could. He plays in a position that Amorim needs. Zirkzee plays in a position that Amorim doesn't even have in his formation.
Dre_00
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A pretty compelling argument against Cunha on the day that multiple sources are claiming it's an all but done deal. This may have turned me from ambivalent to Cunha to "oh no, here we go again".

https://www.thetransferflow.com/p/manchester-united-will-sign-matheus-cunha-they-shouldn-t-de0c
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Well, I'm not endorsing the signing exactly, because if we aren't playing them I don't watch Wolves at all. But he has overperformed xG and has high G+A for the past two years. But… before that his career had been completely pedestrian.

Which isn't to say it can't go wrong; Mount was probably the best player in a team that won the Champions League.

She's also being a little cute comparing him to Rashford… at Villa only. (Note: whoever ends up getting Rashford is getting an absolute steal; prepare yourselves now. He's going to be on a mission to get on the England squad for the World Cup. Next year is going to be a big year for Rashford, you can see it coming like a freight train. But unfortunately it won't be at United.)
Mathguy64
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All you have to do is watch how Amad has played on the right to imagine how Rashford could play on the left.

If only he went backwards.
Dre_00
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Fair point about the Villa Rashford comparison. I think the high degree of overperformance is the most concerning aspect. More often than not, over the course of multiple seasons that will average out. Which would indicate that a prolonged period of underperformance is due.

On the bright side, if he does end up sucking, a dozen other United transfers in the last 5 years have steeled me for such a scenario.
Dre_00
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Athletic with an interesting perspective. United have gone 20 games undefeated in an effort to first reach the EL and then eventually reach the EL Final. A ton of crazy games in the stretch.

FA Cup QF against Liverpool in which Amad wins it on effectively the last kick of the game
FA Cup SF against Coventry in which United lose it if Haji Wright isn't offside by a fraction of a toe
FA Cup Final against City when we shockingly won
EL group stage that had come from behind wins against Bodo/Glimt and Viktoria Plizen as well as a late winner against Rangers that allowed United to skip the playoff rounds
EL QF 2nd leg...that comeback against Lyon

At times, United have looked desperately unlucky in the league but they've ridden a fair bit of luck to get to the EL final tonight. May it continue for one more night.
Thunder18
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Time to break this God-forsaken streak vs the Spuds
Showstopper
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Well I think wherever Rashford goes his numbers will look more like the Villa numbers. (I mean, Antony is putting up numbers in La Liga; if Rashford goes to Barcelona to take a rumor and is able to get time… it's a good bet that he will kill it; he's about 10x better than Antony, and Rashford is faster than most of La Liga; there's a big drop off after the top of the table there). I'm just saying she made a statistical argument for Rashford at United by juicing the numbers via cutting out…. Rashford's numbers at United.
 
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