***** Official Houston Rockets 2025-2026 Season Thread *****

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superaggie73
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That's not a flagrant foul. Just a foul to keep SGA from scoring. And lol at both SGA and Lebron acting like they are dying on the floor at the same time.
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WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT?

"James Harden Putting up Historically Bad Playoff Numbers"
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/25426002-cade-cunningham-pistons-beat-donovan-mitchell-cavs-nba-fans-react-2-0-series-lead?utm_source=cnn.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=editorial


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Guitarsoup said:

I would be out on Giannis at this point unless you absolutely steal him. He is 31.5 (turns 32 in Dec) and can't stay healthy. Multiple knee, calf, etc injuries. His game is entirely dependent on his athletic ability and with his injuries and his age, that ability is going to to a wall very soon. He doesn't have shooting to bail him out when he loses a step like Durant does.

Sengun+Reed is probably the starting point and they may want Bari+Picks, too.

Then Giannis wants to play with a floor spacing center, which Adams and Capela are not it, so maybe you have to take on Myles Turner as well (30yo). So likely need to add Jabari for salaries to match.

Now you go from a core of Amen, Reed, Jabari, Sengun all in their early 20s to a core of Giannis, Durant, Myles Turner, and Amen - all but Amen in their 30s.

Turner/Adams/Capela
Giannis/DFS
Durant/Tari?
Amen/Okogie?
Fred/Holiday?

A Turner+Giannis for Sengun+Reed+Bari trade adds 14.6M to the Rockets cap, so bringing back Tari and Okogie would be hard, so then you have ridiculous depth problems.

Not my monkey, not my circus, but I would try to move Sengun for someone else, not a super expensive Giannis at the end of his prime. Not sure who all will be available this summer, but ~32yo Giannis + 38yo Durant as your two best players wouldn't give me a lot of confidence in having depth or health to win. Plus that team will suck even worse at shooting.



no doubt, the only reason i thought it was interesting was the surprisingly low rumored package (sengun, jabari, several picks). i'm sure it's not real, but crazier things have happened. i don't think he's the smartest target for this team nor am i convinced he puts them over the top anyway. that said, if there's any validity whatsoever to it just taking those two guys and however many draft picks, i don't see how you pass on that. supposedly it's a salary match too. seems too good to be true but there seemed to be momentum behind it at least for a little while. the only thing i could think of to explain it is that if he declines his option and the bucks feel they have no chance, maybe they're panicking and nobody is offering them the wealth of assets they'd hope for and they're caving a bit before teams decide to move on and build their roster another way. i found it interesting because for me, that's where the line is on a giannis deal. any more than those two players and im out. besides im still holding out hope some team out there is crazy enough to give up something of value for durant and the rockets find a way to improve without sinking the future. if they blow this offseason i think a lot of fans are ready to hop off this ride for a little while. i know durant has left some teams on bad terms but i never expected him to totally suck the life out of the room on this team after how much excitement there was a year ago. jalen green might only be good for like 8 points in the playoffs but at least he showed up for the games and knew better than to call jabari ******ed on a twitter or whatever. i wish that wasn't where the bar was currently but here we are
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CharleyKerfeld said:

WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT?

"James Harden Putting up Historically Bad Playoff Numbers"
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/25426002-cade-cunningham-pistons-beat-donovan-mitchell-cavs-nba-fans-react-2-0-series-lead?utm_source=cnn.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=editorial




this aged well.
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Darthag11 said:

CharleyKerfeld said:

WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT?

"James Harden Putting up Historically Bad Playoff Numbers"
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/25426002-cade-cunningham-pistons-beat-donovan-mitchell-cavs-nba-fans-react-2-0-series-lead?utm_source=cnn.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=editorial




this aged well.

It's been aging for 10 years
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CharleyKerfeld said:

Darthag11 said:

CharleyKerfeld said:

WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT?

"James Harden Putting up Historically Bad Playoff Numbers"
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/25426002-cade-cunningham-pistons-beat-donovan-mitchell-cavs-nba-fans-react-2-0-series-lead?utm_source=cnn.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=editorial




this aged well.

It's been aging for 10 years

he single handedly won yesterday's game at the end but yeah, we couldn't have used him at the end of this season.
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Darthag11 said:

CharleyKerfeld said:

Darthag11 said:

CharleyKerfeld said:

WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT?

"James Harden Putting up Historically Bad Playoff Numbers"
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/25426002-cade-cunningham-pistons-beat-donovan-mitchell-cavs-nba-fans-react-2-0-series-lead?utm_source=cnn.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=editorial




this aged well.

It's been aging for 10 years

he single handedly won yesterday's game at the end but yeah, we couldn't have used him at the end of this season.

Are you aware or not how many times he utterly vanished during Game 7s and other deciding games during his tenure with the Rockets?
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CharleyKerfeld said:

Darthag11 said:

CharleyKerfeld said:

Darthag11 said:

CharleyKerfeld said:

WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT?

"James Harden Putting up Historically Bad Playoff Numbers"
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/25426002-cade-cunningham-pistons-beat-donovan-mitchell-cavs-nba-fans-react-2-0-series-lead?utm_source=cnn.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=editorial




this aged well.

It's been aging for 10 years

he single handedly won yesterday's game at the end but yeah, we couldn't have used him at the end of this season.

Are you aware or not how many times he utterly vanished during Game 7s and other deciding games during his tenure with the Rockets?


Not just the Rockets. Everywhere he's been
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Lakers b**ched and whined their way into a 25 v 10 advantage in FT attempts for Game 3… and still lost.
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FrioAg 00 said:

Lakers b**ched and whined their way into a 25 v 10 advantage in FT attempts for Game 3… and still lost.



I'm as big of a Lakers hater as anyone, but you can't honestly say that the Lakers haven't been justified in their complaints. OKC is treated by all refs like they can do no wrong no matter who they play. They are allowed to play a completely different game than every other team in the league.
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I don't disagree at all that OKC gets phantom calls for flopping and exaggerated responses to incidental contact.

But no, LA isn't "justified", when their entire franchise is built around the guy to took the entire league to the soccer levels of whistle baiting. The fact that OKC is going to sweep them by doing it TO the lakers is poetic.

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Thoughts and prayers to whomever the Wizards take #1. On par with the Browns over the last 25 years or so.

Outside of John Wall and Bradley Beal, their first round picks have been so terrible in the 21st century.
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Wemby is a thug!
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k20dub said:

Wemby is a thug!

Latest in a long line of San Antonio's dirty players.

Robinson
Duncan
now this jerk
Guitarsoup
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Harper was shook.

oh no
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Spurs coach of course blamed refs for not protecting his baby so therefore his baby was forced to protect himself like that.
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If the Spurs could run a backcourt trap for the entire game, I think they might beat Minnesota 150-0. The T-Wolves looked like a junior high team trying to get the ball across midcourt in the last minute.
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CharleyKerfeld said:

If the Spurs could run a backcourt trap for the entire game, I think they might beat Minnesota 150-0. The T-Wolves looked like a junior high team trying to get the ball across midcourt in the last minute.


To be fair, the Spurs could have been called for 32 fouls on those backcourt traps. In the regular season and even the first 46 minutes of the game, those are fouls and free throws. But the nba loves post season drama.
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superaggie73 said:

CharleyKerfeld said:

If the Spurs could run a backcourt trap for the entire game, I think they might beat Minnesota 150-0. The T-Wolves looked like a junior high team trying to get the ball across midcourt in the last minute.


To be fair, the Spurs could have been called for 32 fouls on those backcourt traps. In the regular season and even the first 46 minutes of the game, those are fouls and free throws. But the nba loves post season drama.

I'm not going to sit here on the Rockets' thread and let you insult the good name of the San Antonio Spurs, who have never done anything wrong and whose franchise was born 10 minutes after Jesus was in Bethlehem. Don't you know how biased toward the Timberwolves the NBA is? They're slaves to that big Minnesota TV market that they command as the 46th largest city in the US - that's the 24th biggest market in the NBA! And of course, they're obsessed with Minnesota's long-running championship pedigree - They've almost been in the Finals 3 times! I mean not really, they got smoked in all 3 of those series, but clearly they've got a lot more juice with the league than the poor little spurs.
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Watching the twolves fail to deal with pressure felt so similar to the end of many a Rockets game. Just a concentrated mass of stupid turnovers, poor decisions and terrible fundamentals. The only difference is that we don't have a veteran PG on our bench, but the wolves do. For the life of me, I can't understand why Finch didn't put Conley in the game to get them over the line. I doubt he would have struggled with that press. Finch was also as braindead as his players and waited too long to call an obvious TimeOut. They got bailed out by what was one of the best soccer traps I've ever seen in a basketball game. They were lucky to not cough that game up.
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Glad to see a Houston hero Harden still flopping in 2026
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Matt_ag98 said:

Glad to see a Houston hero Harden still flopping in 2026

and dribbling out the shot clock for a low percentage fade away 3
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I swear watching Harden in games like this and the things he did in Houston, it looks so much like he's on the take. Cleveland was up big until Harden starts jacking up 3's and missing badly and doing the worst defensive job possible on Brunson.
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Another Harden flop...tried to slid himself across the garden floor lol
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Big Game James.
CharleyKerfeld
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What's the record for fewest rebounds by a 7 foot 5 player in a conference finals game?
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Just 2 more playoff games (not series) for The Beard and he will be #1 all time leader in playoff games without a championship.
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Let's see,

Game 1 - SA +10 FTs, SA wins by 7

Game 2 - OKC +7 FTs, OKC wins by 9

Game 3 - FT even, OKC wins by 15

Game 4 - SA +14 FTs, SA wins by 21

Game 5 - FT currently even, OKC up by 8


It's pretty rich to hear SA fans whining about FTs when they have a +17 advantage in the series, and it's likely the only reason they didn't lose in 5 games


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FrioAg 00 said:

Let's see,

Game 1 - SA +10 FTs, SA wins by 7

Game 2 - OKC +7 FTs, OKC wins by 9

Game 3 - FT even, OKC wins by 15

Game 4 - SA +14 FTs, SA wins by 21

Game 5 - FT currently even, OKC up by 8


It's pretty rich to hear SA fans whining about FTs when they have a +17 advantage in the series, and it's likely the only reason they didn't lose in 5 games





I beg to differ. OKC fouls every damn play and refs only call a minimal percentage of their fouls. Don't get me wrong, I hate SA, but OkC is treated completely different than every other team in the league by the refs. Just look at tonight, SA getting screwed left and right.
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I'll grant that OKC plays for the foul call, which is an undeniable brand of basketball to watch, but I don't see them committing fouls MORE than SA at all. They are not a very physical defense.

And the refs haven't called those baited calls for OKC in any game this series, which is why SA has more FT attempts overall and a big advantage in both their wins.
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Can anyone answer my question of why the refs would treat OKC preferentially ? Is it that big Oklahoma TV market? Their long-standing tradition of NBA greatness?

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FrioAg 00 said:

Let's see,

Game 1 - SA +10 FTs, SA wins by 7

Game 2 - OKC +7 FTs, OKC wins by 9

Game 3 - FT even, OKC wins by 15

Game 4 - SA +14 FTs, SA wins by 21

Game 5 - FT currently even, OKC up by 8


It's pretty rich to hear SA fans whining about FTs when they have a +17 advantage in the series, and it's likely the only reason they didn't lose in 5 games




I know you aren't dumb enough to think that FTA is the only way refs influence a game.



OKC plays way more physical on defense and gets away with way more.

But then things like this have been called when Fox goes out of his way to not touch him.



This flop was called a foul on Barnes, which wiped off a 3pter. No FTs involved.



Actual official explaining why the play above that wont show up should have been an offensive foul on OKC. But n call.



No foul here at all, but they call it on Castle. Castle had to be pulled from the game due to foul trouble because of phantom fouls like this due to SGA's flopping.



Elbow to the throat is Flagrant, innit?





These aren't Spurs fans complaining:



From the last Tony Brothers game, Hartenstein was allowed to just yank Castle by the hair WHILE THE REF WAS WATCHING. No call no FTs.



I don't expect the refs to get everything right, and I don't think they are calling things the way they are because of some grand conspiracy. But the way they have officiated both teams is not the same, and that is primarily because OKC spends their time gaming the system and going with the "we can hack and be as physical as we want because they wont call a foul every time and even if they did, we have the most depth in the league." And they are right.

The Spurs big problem last night was they were not aggressive, especially Wemby and Fox. When you are aggressive, you tend to get the calls more on your side, and that is what we saw in game 4 vs game 5 if you actually watched it rather than just looking at a box score. When the Spurs attack the basket relentlessly like they did in game 4, they get the benefit on more calls, but in game 5, they were completely passive, especially Victor. Can't play that way and expect to win. But that is never going to show up in the box score.
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Almost all of those are awful calls, no doubt.

They are also cherry picked, out of the hundreds of total calls. You're missing the cherry picked ones that favor SA.

If you're making an argument about the total NBA product evolving to this soccer style game where whistle baiting is WAY to prevalent, I couldn't agree more.

So let's go back and pull back a few rings from folks like Tony Parker and Ginobili who played big roles in this evolution of flopping.
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Neither one did anything remotely close to what we have seen in this series and that also isn't why the Spurs won those titles and you know that. But nice Strawman. Care to have an honest conversation now?

Your FTA stats are also cherry picked and do not actually show the reality of the series. And I did a very brief overview with a major swinging series of calls/no calls in game 5. It is relevant.

I'm not making an argument about the NBA evolving, but rather I am pointing out how FTA does not tell the story of the series and that is obvious if you actually watched it all.

The majority of calls the refs do get correct. But the refs can also drastically swing momentum with huge point changes with things like we saw when they miss a goal tend (2pt), then make the wrong call (turnover, potentially 2-3 points) then give a technical to a coach that was calling for a review (1 point), then give SGA two FTs on a possession that OKC shouldn't have had (2 points for OKC, but a Spurs make would have been potentially 2-3 point for the Spurs). That is a definite 5 point swing and potentially an 8-11 point swing in a 10-point game. That's a massive swing because the refs screwed up multiple things that all went against the Spurs when the Spurs were making a push. And the refs unquestionably screwed all of that up. You don't even question that. All of that happened within 40 seconds to close out the quarter. As you know, basketball is a game of runs and the Spurs had just made two threes (one +1) and were on a run. But that type of referee takeover is deflating.

You were the one that brought up the refs, so if you want to have an honest conversation of how they have impacted games, here it is.
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Guitarsoup said:

Neither one did anything remotely close to what we have seen in this series and that also isn't why the Spurs won those titles and you know that. But nice Strawman. Care to have an honest conversation now?

Your FTA stats are also cherry picked and do not actually show the reality of the series. And I did a very brief overview with a major swinging series of calls/no calls in game 5. It is relevant.

I'm not making an argument about the NBA evolving, but rather I am pointing out how FTA does not tell the story of the series and that is obvious if you actually watched it all.

The majority of calls the refs do get correct. But the refs can also drastically swing momentum with huge point changes with things like we saw when they miss a goal tend (2pt), then make the wrong call (turnover, potentially 2-3 points) then give a technical to a coach that was calling for a review (1 point), then give SGA two FTs on a possession that OKC shouldn't have had (2 points for OKC, but a Spurs make would have been potentially 2-3 point for the Spurs). That is a definite 5 point swing and potentially an 8-11 point swing in a 10-point game. That's a massive swing because the refs screwed up multiple things that all went against the Spurs when the Spurs were making a push. And the refs unquestionably screwed all of that up. You don't even question that. All of that happened within 40 seconds to close out the quarter. As you know, basketball is a game of runs and the Spurs had just made two threes (one +1) and were on a run. But that type of referee takeover is deflating.

You were the one that brought up the refs, so if you want to have an honest conversation of how they have impacted games, here it is.


I hate the Spurs with a passion and almost next to never agree with Guitarsoup, but he is 100% spot on here.

That's how bad the officiating and OKC flopping is…has me openly rooting for the Spurs. F U OKC for making me do that.
 
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