Guitarsoup said:
I would be out on Giannis at this point unless you absolutely steal him. He is 31.5 (turns 32 in Dec) and can't stay healthy. Multiple knee, calf, etc injuries. His game is entirely dependent on his athletic ability and with his injuries and his age, that ability is going to to a wall very soon. He doesn't have shooting to bail him out when he loses a step like Durant does.
Sengun+Reed is probably the starting point and they may want Bari+Picks, too.
Then Giannis wants to play with a floor spacing center, which Adams and Capela are not it, so maybe you have to take on Myles Turner as well (30yo). So likely need to add Jabari for salaries to match.
Now you go from a core of Amen, Reed, Jabari, Sengun all in their early 20s to a core of Giannis, Durant, Myles Turner, and Amen - all but Amen in their 30s.
Turner/Adams/Capela
Giannis/DFS
Durant/Tari?
Amen/Okogie?
Fred/Holiday?
A Turner+Giannis for Sengun+Reed+Bari trade adds 14.6M to the Rockets cap, so bringing back Tari and Okogie would be hard, so then you have ridiculous depth problems.
Not my monkey, not my circus, but I would try to move Sengun for someone else, not a super expensive Giannis at the end of his prime. Not sure who all will be available this summer, but ~32yo Giannis + 38yo Durant as your two best players wouldn't give me a lot of confidence in having depth or health to win. Plus that team will suck even worse at shooting.
CharleyKerfeld said:
WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT?
"James Harden Putting up Historically Bad Playoff Numbers"
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/25426002-cade-cunningham-pistons-beat-donovan-mitchell-cavs-nba-fans-react-2-0-series-lead?utm_source=cnn.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=editorial
Darthag11 said:CharleyKerfeld said:
WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT?
"James Harden Putting up Historically Bad Playoff Numbers"
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/25426002-cade-cunningham-pistons-beat-donovan-mitchell-cavs-nba-fans-react-2-0-series-lead?utm_source=cnn.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=editorial
this aged well.
CharleyKerfeld said:Darthag11 said:CharleyKerfeld said:
WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT?
"James Harden Putting up Historically Bad Playoff Numbers"
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/25426002-cade-cunningham-pistons-beat-donovan-mitchell-cavs-nba-fans-react-2-0-series-lead?utm_source=cnn.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=editorial
this aged well.
It's been aging for 10 years
Darthag11 said:CharleyKerfeld said:Darthag11 said:CharleyKerfeld said:
WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT?
"James Harden Putting up Historically Bad Playoff Numbers"
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/25426002-cade-cunningham-pistons-beat-donovan-mitchell-cavs-nba-fans-react-2-0-series-lead?utm_source=cnn.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=editorial
this aged well.
It's been aging for 10 years
he single handedly won yesterday's game at the end but yeah, we couldn't have used him at the end of this season.
CharleyKerfeld said:Darthag11 said:CharleyKerfeld said:Darthag11 said:CharleyKerfeld said:
WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT?
"James Harden Putting up Historically Bad Playoff Numbers"
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/25426002-cade-cunningham-pistons-beat-donovan-mitchell-cavs-nba-fans-react-2-0-series-lead?utm_source=cnn.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=editorial
this aged well.
It's been aging for 10 years
he single handedly won yesterday's game at the end but yeah, we couldn't have used him at the end of this season.
Are you aware or not how many times he utterly vanished during Game 7s and other deciding games during his tenure with the Rockets?
FrioAg 00 said:
Lakers b**ched and whined their way into a 25 v 10 advantage in FT attempts for Game 3… and still lost.
k20dub said:
Wemby is a thug!
DYLAN HARPER WAS ABSOLUTELY SHOCKEDpic.twitter.com/xCz2QWc9iE
— Spurs Lead (@SpursLead) May 11, 2026
CharleyKerfeld said:
If the Spurs could run a backcourt trap for the entire game, I think they might beat Minnesota 150-0. The T-Wolves looked like a junior high team trying to get the ball across midcourt in the last minute.
superaggie73 said:CharleyKerfeld said:
If the Spurs could run a backcourt trap for the entire game, I think they might beat Minnesota 150-0. The T-Wolves looked like a junior high team trying to get the ball across midcourt in the last minute.
To be fair, the Spurs could have been called for 32 fouls on those backcourt traps. In the regular season and even the first 46 minutes of the game, those are fouls and free throws. But the nba loves post season drama.
Matt_ag98 said:
Glad to see a Houston hero Harden still flopping in 2026
James Harden now has the most playoff games shooting under 35% FG since 1955. pic.twitter.com/9DYibhvQmo
— Real App (@realapp) May 20, 2026
FrioAg 00 said:
Let's see,
Game 1 - SA +10 FTs, SA wins by 7
Game 2 - OKC +7 FTs, OKC wins by 9
Game 3 - FT even, OKC wins by 15
Game 4 - SA +14 FTs, SA wins by 21
Game 5 - FT currently even, OKC up by 8
It's pretty rich to hear SA fans whining about FTs when they have a +17 advantage in the series, and it's likely the only reason they didn't lose in 5 games
FrioAg 00 said:
Let's see,
Game 1 - SA +10 FTs, SA wins by 7
Game 2 - OKC +7 FTs, OKC wins by 9
Game 3 - FT even, OKC wins by 15
Game 4 - SA +14 FTs, SA wins by 21
Game 5 - FT currently even, OKC up by 8
It's pretty rich to hear SA fans whining about FTs when they have a +17 advantage in the series, and it's likely the only reason they didn't lose in 5 games
I’ve played, coached, reffed & covered basketball for 30+ years. I’m also NOT a Spurs fan. What OKC has done — building half their strategy to manipulate the refs on every possession — is a disgrace to the game and awful to watch. This is Harden on steroids. Fans deserve better. https://t.co/4cNjdtFVWO
— Chris Dell 🧪 (@MaddJournalist) May 27, 2026
Ruining the game pic.twitter.com/jgXrnDzIHd
— IG: @docqtor (@DocQtorr) May 25, 2026
this is just SHAMELESS 😭 pic.twitter.com/yoQwUVj9ht
— LakeShowYo (@LakeShowYo) May 21, 2026
Kurtis, IMO this should have been called an offensive foul on Wallace. He launches at an abnormal angle to seek out contact with Wemby that otherwise would not have occurred, and he causes lower body contact to Wemby that knocks him to the floor, and takes him out of the play. If…
— Chip Clark (@OfficialChipC) May 23, 2026
What are we doing here?
— Justin Wills (@itsjwills) May 27, 2026
Fix this sport. pic.twitter.com/3OBf0Ihkqa
Jared McCain elbowed Dylan Harper in the throat, backed it up on him and fell down 😂🤣 pic.twitter.com/P8JsvftRHl
— Hater Report (@HaterReport) May 27, 2026
The refs really claimed they couldn't tell who this was off of and ruled it a jump ball...???
— Rate the Refs (@Rate_the_Refs) May 27, 2026
NBA what are we doing?? https://t.co/9BpUPFroX2
We cannot overstate how bad this is for the game of basketball. https://t.co/CLigoTVrp0
— Andy Bailey (@AndrewDBailey) May 27, 2026
Hartenstein just YANKED Stephon Castle’s dreads 😭😭😭
— LakeShowYo (@LakeShowYo) May 21, 2026
THIS MAN IS PLAYING DIRTY 💀 pic.twitter.com/gVC14EIcNR
Guitarsoup said:
Neither one did anything remotely close to what we have seen in this series and that also isn't why the Spurs won those titles and you know that. But nice Strawman. Care to have an honest conversation now?
Your FTA stats are also cherry picked and do not actually show the reality of the series. And I did a very brief overview with a major swinging series of calls/no calls in game 5. It is relevant.
I'm not making an argument about the NBA evolving, but rather I am pointing out how FTA does not tell the story of the series and that is obvious if you actually watched it all.
The majority of calls the refs do get correct. But the refs can also drastically swing momentum with huge point changes with things like we saw when they miss a goal tend (2pt), then make the wrong call (turnover, potentially 2-3 points) then give a technical to a coach that was calling for a review (1 point), then give SGA two FTs on a possession that OKC shouldn't have had (2 points for OKC, but a Spurs make would have been potentially 2-3 point for the Spurs). That is a definite 5 point swing and potentially an 8-11 point swing in a 10-point game. That's a massive swing because the refs screwed up multiple things that all went against the Spurs when the Spurs were making a push. And the refs unquestionably screwed all of that up. You don't even question that. All of that happened within 40 seconds to close out the quarter. As you know, basketball is a game of runs and the Spurs had just made two threes (one +1) and were on a run. But that type of referee takeover is deflating.
You were the one that brought up the refs, so if you want to have an honest conversation of how they have impacted games, here it is.