CharleyKerfeld said:

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Poot said:

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Guitarsoup, like clockwork.

ETA… to be fair 11 blocks is outrageous.

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I want to commend Guitarsoup for saying off our thread defending the Spurs for almost 10 hours after they lost a game. I think it's a record.

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LOL as always it is you bringing the Spurs up here, not me. Guess the rare Spurs loss is all you have going for yourself

I really like the spurs. Mainly bc of Castle and Harper, but I am in love with Ant's game/athelticism/competitiveness.

I hope he stays healthy - this is a great series for him to show he's in that very top conversation.

Woods Ag said:

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I really like the spurs. Mainly bc of Castle and Harper, but I am in love with Ant's game/athelticism/competitiveness.

I hope he stays healthy - this is a great series for him to show he's in that very top conversation.

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100% agree on Ant. Has such a huge motor and is an elite competitor. You could see last night he was in pain and was just gutting it out.

And unlike guys like SGA and Joker, he isn't trying to game the refs. He's out there to compete and play ball. I don't see how anyone wouldn't love that.

Coming back may not be the best thing for him long term, but you have to respect his grit.

Guitarsoup said:

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CharleyKerfeld said:

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Poot said:

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Guitarsoup, like clockwork.

ETA… to be fair 11 blocks is outrageous.

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I want to commend Guitarsoup for saying off our thread defending the Spurs for almost 10 hours after they lost a game. I think it's a record.

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LOL as always it is you bringing the Spurs up here, not me. Guess the rare Spurs loss is all you have going for yourself

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It is and it was delightful.

Absolutely we would

I would be out on Giannis at this point unless you absolutely steal him. He is 31.5 (turns 32 in Dec) and can't stay healthy. Multiple knee, calf, etc injuries. His game is entirely dependent on his athletic ability and with his injuries and his age, that ability is going to to a wall very soon. He doesn't have shooting to bail him out when he loses a step like Durant does.

Sengun+Reed is probably the starting point and they may want Bari+Picks, too.

Then Giannis wants to play with a floor spacing center, which Adams and Capela are not it, so maybe you have to take on Myles Turner as well (30yo). So likely need to add Jabari for salaries to match.

Now you go from a core of Amen, Reed, Jabari, Sengun all in their early 20s to a core of Giannis, Durant, Myles Turner, and Amen - all but Amen in their 30s.

Turner/Adams/Capela
Giannis/DFS
Durant/Tari?
Amen/Okogie?
Fred/Holiday?

A Turner+Giannis for Sengun+Reed+Bari trade adds 14.6M to the Rockets cap, so bringing back Tari and Okogie would be hard, so then you have ridiculous depth problems.

Not my monkey, not my circus, but I would try to move Sengun for someone else, not a super expensive Giannis at the end of his prime. Not sure who all will be available this summer, but ~32yo Giannis + 38yo Durant as your two best players wouldn't give me a lot of confidence in having depth or health to win. Plus that team will suck even worse at shooting.

As much joy as I get out of watching LeBron looking bewildered at every call against his team, the way OKC gets the advantage of officiating every game makes the nba unwatchable.

This is always my ceiling on how much a fan of the NBA I can be.

I do love truly elite basketball as a sport, but the differential officiating for star players or favored teams makes it really hard to get past. Guys like LeBron or Steph or SGA (who I like) get whistles every time that other guys don't.

That's not a flagrant foul. Just a foul to keep SGA from scoring. And lol at both SGA and Lebron acting like they are dying on the floor at the same time.

WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT?

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Guitarsoup said:

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I would be out on Giannis at this point unless you absolutely steal him. He is 31.5 (turns 32 in Dec) and can't stay healthy. Multiple knee, calf, etc injuries. His game is entirely dependent on his athletic ability and with his injuries and his age, that ability is going to to a wall very soon. He doesn't have shooting to bail him out when he loses a step like Durant does.

Sengun+Reed is probably the starting point and they may want Bari+Picks, too.

Then Giannis wants to play with a floor spacing center, which Adams and Capela are not it, so maybe you have to take on Myles Turner as well (30yo). So likely need to add Jabari for salaries to match.

Now you go from a core of Amen, Reed, Jabari, Sengun all in their early 20s to a core of Giannis, Durant, Myles Turner, and Amen - all but Amen in their 30s.

Turner/Adams/Capela
Giannis/DFS
Durant/Tari?
Amen/Okogie?
Fred/Holiday?

A Turner+Giannis for Sengun+Reed+Bari trade adds 14.6M to the Rockets cap, so bringing back Tari and Okogie would be hard, so then you have ridiculous depth problems.

Not my monkey, not my circus, but I would try to move Sengun for someone else, not a super expensive Giannis at the end of his prime. Not sure who all will be available this summer, but ~32yo Giannis + 38yo Durant as your two best players wouldn't give me a lot of confidence in having depth or health to win. Plus that team will suck even worse at shooting.

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no doubt, the only reason i thought it was interesting was the surprisingly low rumored package (sengun, jabari, several picks). i'm sure it's not real, but crazier things have happened. i don't think he's the smartest target for this team nor am i convinced he puts them over the top anyway. that said, if there's any validity whatsoever to it just taking those two guys and however many draft picks, i don't see how you pass on that. supposedly it's a salary match too. seems too good to be true but there seemed to be momentum behind it at least for a little while. the only thing i could think of to explain it is that if he declines his option and the bucks feel they have no chance, maybe they're panicking and nobody is offering them the wealth of assets they'd hope for and they're caving a bit before teams decide to move on and build their roster another way. i found it interesting because for me, that's where the line is on a giannis deal. any more than those two players and im out. besides im still holding out hope some team out there is crazy enough to give up something of value for durant and the rockets find a way to improve without sinking the future. if they blow this offseason i think a lot of fans are ready to hop off this ride for a little while. i know durant has left some teams on bad terms but i never expected him to totally suck the life out of the room on this team after how much excitement there was a year ago. jalen green might only be good for like 8 points in the playoffs but at least he showed up for the games and knew better than to call jabari ******ed on a twitter or whatever. i wish that wasn't where the bar was currently but here we are