The Gaza debate

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I need to see specific lies, with time stamps, from this Nun or I'm going to suspect AIPAC talking points. Bring the receipts or you're just propagandists.
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jagvocate said:

I need to see specific lies, with time stamps, from this Nun or I'm going to suspect AIPAC talking points. Bring the receipts or you're just propagandists.

Yes, ALL Palestinians, even nuns, have to go through the same security measures... because they are Palestinian residents. Hamas dresses as aid workers, journalists, and maybe they even have some habits that they can dress up in... so yes, even nuns, when they are residents of Hamas controlled areas, are not completely free to roam Israel unchecked.

That is not anti-Christian, that is common sense, which apparently equals genocide for the antisemitic types.
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its not surprise carlson had this charlatan on. shilling for iran is right up his alley.
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Yeah Tucker I think has really just…lost it at this point. It's sad to me because I do admit to respecting him as a journalist prior to this year.

Gazans/"Palestinians" lie as easily as they breathe.
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Tucker is either a sucker or offers up his platform to the highest bidder for sympathetic "alternative" coverage. This is not new. He's an influencer like any other, even if he wears a suit and acts like a journalist. His whole schtick is being some sort of independent, alternative news source that treats more mainstream outlets like propaganda and offers a more "truthful" alternative. The problem is that such a platform requires bring a contrarian for the sake of being a contrarian and putting forth whatever opposing view there might be, with no regard for bias or credibility. Under the guise of giving some kind of alternative view, he's really just helping push propaganda.
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This radical leftist woman in my church posted this on Instagram two days ago: As a Christian I know that evangelicals (sorry but Ted Cruz is your rep) believe we should align with Israel. I simply cannot. Supporting Israel is not a tenet of the faith and in my spirit I cannot support a technofascist genocidal state that has taken the name of the Jewish people to commit atrocities. I will donate to Gaza aid organizations and I will pray for all people, but I will not align my Christianity with this regime that has done everything in its power to push colonialism, extermination of a people, and war (the ultimate money maker). Also, consider that the US loves Israel because the US is founded on the same principles Israel is implementing: violence, exploitation, hunger, and death.

She posted that long commentary on a podcast she shared from Diabolical Lies Caro Clair Burke | Katie Gatti Tassin August 10: Why America Can't See Gaza

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/why-america-cant-see-gaza/id1761438573?i=1000721373833

https://www.instagram.com/almostbrenda/

https://www.bswhealth.com/nurse-practitioner/brenda-olmos#about

This is the most extreme example of liberal Christians claiming Israel and the US are oppressive countries that I have ever noticed.
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The leftist media in the US and the pro-Palestine media are very similar. They rely on the same tactics of selective editing, removing context, creative wording, and little to no fact checking to push their particular narratives. The truth doesn't need to be staged and if your cause requires selective wording and ignoring context to get people to support it, then your cause is wrong.

The same type of people eat it up. It confirms their biases and so they don't need anything other than the initial surface level story and any pushback on it or correction just doesn't register.
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Joseph Goebbels and Julius Streicher would have loved the Palestinian propaganda machine.
jagvocate
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LMCane
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do the "Christians" so up in arms over a nun going through a security check ...

post threads on here about how Christians are treated in:

NIGERIA
CHINA
SAUDI ARABIA
SUDAN
GAZA STRIP
SYRIA
EGYPT
INDONESIA

and if not- why not?
jagvocate
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LMCane said:

do the "Christians" so up in arms over a nun going through a security check ...

post threads on here about how Christians are treated in:

NIGERIA
CHINA
SAUDI ARABIA
SUDAN
GAZA STRIP
SYRIA
EGYPT
INDONESIA

and if not- why not?


1. We don't give any of these countries near the amount of tax payer dollars and weaponry that we do Israel. We've given $100s of billions to Israel over the years and they try to get us into wars with Iran like they did with Iraq.
2. None of these countries have a PAC that assigns a handler to each member of our Congress.
3. None of these countries killed American sailors on the USS Liberty for a false flag event to draw America and Egypt into a regional war.

Must we go on?

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jagvocate said:

LMCane said:

do the "Christians" so up in arms over a nun going through a security check ...

post threads on here about how Christians are treated in:

NIGERIA
CHINA
SAUDI ARABIA
SUDAN
GAZA STRIP
SYRIA
EGYPT
INDONESIA

and if not- why not?


1. We don't give any of these countries near the amount of tax payer dollars and weaponry that we do Israel. We've given $100s of billions to Israel over the years and they try to get us into wars with Iran like they did with Iraq.
2. None of these countries have a PAC that assigns a handler to each member of our Congress.
3. None of these countries killed American sailors on the USS Liberty for a false flag event to draw America and Egypt into a regional war.

Must we go on?




We SELL weapons to Israel.
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Ellis Wyatt
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That woman should stop lying. It's against the Ten Commandments.

Has Hamas released the hostages yet?
BMX Bandit
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LMCane said:

do the "Christians" so up in arms over a nun going through a security check ...

post threads on here about how Christians are treated in:

NIGERIA
CHINA
SAUDI ARABIA
SUDAN
GAZA STRIP
SYRIA
EGYPT
INDONESIA

and if not- why not?

i think jyou know why.
jagvocate
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Nice ad hominem fallacy
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I'm Gipper
Phatbob
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BMX Bandit said:

LMCane said:

do the "Christians" so up in arms over a nun going through a security check ...

post threads on here about how Christians are treated in:

NIGERIA
CHINA
SAUDI ARABIA
SUDAN
GAZA STRIP
SYRIA
EGYPT
INDONESIA

and if not- why not?

i think jyou know why.

I see what jyou did there.
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LMCane said:

do the "Christians" so up in arms over a nun going through a security check ...

post threads on here about how Christians are treated in:

NIGERIA
CHINA
SAUDI ARABIA
SUDAN
GAZA STRIP
SYRIA
EGYPT
INDONESIA

and if not- why not?

You cannot leave Pakistan off the list, they need to be at the top, Christians are now treated much better in Saudi and Indonesia than Pakistan were Christian girls are targeted and gang raped for being Christian and it is justified in the name of Allah.
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jagvocate said:

LMCane said:

do the "Christians" so up in arms over a nun going through a security check ...

post threads on here about how Christians are treated in:

NIGERIA
CHINA
SAUDI ARABIA
SUDAN
GAZA STRIP
SYRIA
EGYPT
INDONESIA

and if not- why not?


1. We don't give any of these countries near the amount of tax payer dollars and weaponry that we do Israel. We've given $100s of billions to Israel over the years and they try to get us into wars with Iran like they did with Iraq.
2. None of these countries have a PAC that assigns a handler to each member of our Congress.
3. None of these countries killed American sailors on the USS Liberty for a false flag event to draw America and Egypt into a regional war.

Must we go on?



nortex97
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WTAF?

I want absolutely ZERO Gazans as neighbors.


Rubio and Trump need to end this immediately.
nortex97
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Update; that was fast.
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Im Gipper
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Sad that so many "conservatives" fall for the KGB OPs. Wake up folks!

Quote:

Did you know the world Palestine and Palestinian as a national identity wasn't a thing until 1964 when Yasser Arafat made it a thing. Prior to that it was just a word to describe geography.

It was turned into an organized political propaganda machine in 1964 during the Cold War with the help of KBG identity politics and propaganda tactics.

Moscow saw the Palestinian cause as a strategic weapon in the Cold War, using it to counter U.S. influence in the Middle East and weaken Israel, which was aligned with the West.

The KGB helped elevate and globalize the Palestinian national identity as a distinct political cause.







I'm Gipper
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Palestinians are just Arabs, which is why I always call them Arabs. The Muslims of Egypt, Algeria, Iraq, Yemen, Saudi Arabia etc. are Arabs.

Iranians are Persian, which is basically white.
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I hope they nip this in the bud. Provide the medical care and then ship them all out, kids and all. Then find out who authorized this, investigate and question the hell out of them.
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LMCane
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Hamas supporters love to bring up the USS Liberty (a case of mistaken identity DURING A WAR) from FIFTY SIX YEARS AGO.

but I don't see you discussing the fact that your Hamas buddies just MURDERED Americans the past two years.

you are a massive hypocrite because you claim you only criticize the Jews because they get US weapons:

"The United States has provided Egypt with significant financial support, totaling over $80 billion in aid since 1946, including $1.3 billion annually in military assistance and billions in economic development funds since the early 1970s,

with figures sometimes adjusted for human rights concerns. The assistance is a cornerstone of the bilateral relationship, focusing on military cooperation, economic development, and bolstering strategic stability in the region."

have you posted ONCE about Egypt's human rights abuses?

and since you have NOT- why not?
LMCane
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I stand with Trump

Too many in the USA and on message boards stand with Hamas rapists.



Keyno
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LMCane said:

I stand with Trump

Too many in the USA and on message boards stand with Hamas rapists.





I reject your false dichotomy of "If you are against israel killing everyone, you are hamas"
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Who?mikejones! said:



Good stuff. I am glad we brokered the deal because I don't think Israel actually wants one. I hope this is the beginning of the end of the useless killing over there.

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BlackGold said:

Who?mikejones! said:



Good stuff. I am glad we brokered the deal because I don't think Israel actually wants one. I hope this is the beginning of the end of the useless killing over there.



Israel absolutely does not want a ceasefire. If this is legit, they will break it
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I will gladly criticize Egypt; it's just when I search the record I see very little to compare with our "ally" Israel

1. Israel killed 34 American sailors and wounded 171 and tried to use the attack as a false flag to drag America into a regional war. You want to critique Egypt: Where is Egypt's analogue?

2. Israel has compromised American national security for its own gain, a level of subterfuge not matched by Egypt. Where is Egypt's Jonathan Pollard?

3. AIPAC has manipulated U.S. foreign policy to prioritize Israeli interests, dragging America into costly Middle East conflicts like those in Iraq that serve little U.S. benefit. Show me an Egyptian analogue and I'll join you in decrying it.

4. Despite receiving billions in U.S. aid, Israel frequently defies American diplomatic efforts, such as expanding settlements in the West Bank against U.S. interests and taking land from Christians and Muslims alike, which inflames regional tensions and burdens U.S. credibility, whereas Egypt has used its aid to maintain the Camp David peace accords. Show me where Egypt has acted here as shamefully as Israel because I'm ready for the discussion.

I can go on, but this list is enough dishonor for a Monday afternoon.

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jagvocate said:

I will gladly criticize Egypt; it's just when I search the record I see very little to compare with our "ally" Israel

1. Israel killed 34 American sailors and wounded 171 and tried to use the attack as a false flag to drag America into a regional war. You want to critique Egypt: Where is Egypt's analogue?

2. Israel has compromised American national security for its own gain, a level of subterfuge not matched by Egypt. Where is Egypt's Jonathan Pollard?

3. AIPAC has manipulated U.S. foreign policy to prioritize Israeli interests, dragging America into costly Middle East conflicts like those in Iraq that serve little U.S. benefit. Show me an Egyptian analogue and I'll join you in decrying it.

4. Despite receiving billions in U.S. aid, Israel frequently defies American diplomatic efforts, such as expanding settlements in the West Bank against U.S. interests and taking land from Christians and Muslims alike, which inflames regional tensions and burdens U.S. credibility, whereas Egypt has used its aid to maintain the Camp David peace accords. Show me where Egypt has acted here as shamefully as Israel because I'm ready for the discussion.

I can go on, but this list is enough dishonor for a Monday afternoon.




That regional war, among others, was partially started by Egypt.

Pollard didn't sell himself solely to Israel, and Pollard initially approached Israel about US intelligence withholding crucial information, not the other way around.

CAIR is a blight on US lobbying to advance Muslim interests and takes money funneled from terror organizations like the Muslim Brotherhood, which was founded in Egypt and has most of its following and operations there. While not necessarily the Egyptian government, they do have a place in Egyptian politics and greatly influence the country

Egypt hasn't been attacked from the West Bank like Israel and has allowed plenty of arms and munitions to be smuggled into gaza from their side of the border.


Lastly, many "palestinians" are descended from Egyptian immigrants and were under Egyptian authority before Egypt decided to start the war in which they lost gaza. Egypt should either take them back or take back responsibility for gaza and the people there, but they don't want to. I can't imagine why...
 
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