***** Official Trump 47 Admin Court Battles *****

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will25u
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"We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution."

- Abraham Lincoln
aggiehawg
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Related, if not directly on point.
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Donald Trump ally and MyPillow.com chief executive Mike Lindell on Wednesday persuaded a U.S. appeals court to throw out a judge's order requiring him to pay $5 million to a software developer who said he debunked Lindell's 2020 election fraud claims.
The 8th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in St. Louis said an arbitration panel improperly interpreted the rules of a contest Lindell set up and oversaw challenging anyone to disprove his claims that Trump won the election.

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will25u
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"We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution."

- Abraham Lincoln
will25u
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"We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution."

- Abraham Lincoln
will25u
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"We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution."

- Abraham Lincoln
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will25u said:



Everyone knew this was headed to SCOTUS...

Glad the 9th Circuit helped to speed up that process...
will25u
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Not Trump, but still ridiculous. Didn't a lawyer get dragged for doing this?

"We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution."

- Abraham Lincoln
aggiehawg
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well, not that surprised. Federal judges are really poor quality, these days.
nortex97
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9 waves of counter-intel/lawfare against Trump:

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1) DNC Convention launches Russia collusion hoax, hires Steele, and feds join with Crossfire Hurricane;
2) Crafting of fake ICA to keep Russia collusion hoax going, take-down of Flynn & Sessions to prevent interference;
3) Comey leaks to prompt Mueller investigation;
4) Leak of fake narrative re Ukrainian call to trigger Impeachment I;
5) Launch of industrial censorship complex;
6) Framing of Trump for J6 & Impeachment II.
7) National Archives plot to prompt criminal case;
8) J6 & Documents prompt second Special Counsel.
9) Epstein, Epstein, Epstein.

She left off the Atlanta lawfare (Fani 'gorilla grip' Willis) and NY fake sexual assault/mysterious theory of a felony from 30 years ago Leticia "mortgage fraud" James stuff.

So that would be 11, at least. And now, with courts trying to decide who Trump can hire at DoJ, it's clearly time for recess appointments.
will25u
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"We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution."

- Abraham Lincoln
will25u
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"We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution."

- Abraham Lincoln
aggiehawg
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IOW, yep, still fired.
will25u
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Almost there...
aggiehawg
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Great news!
will25u
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Looking like no recess appointments. (Didn't think it would happen anyway)

It is ridiculous that they are taking a 39 day break and have a huge backlog of judges and appointees still out there.

aggiehawg
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But why?
will25u
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Ellis Wyatt
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will25u said:

Looking like no recess appointments. (Didn't think it would happen anyway)

It is ridiculous that they are taking a 39 day break and have a huge backlog of judges and appointees still out there.



Sure seems like they don't want America to prevail. It is absurd that they have gotten NO confirmations done. Same ****heels approve all of democrats' anti-American appointments.
aggiehawg
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Sure seems like they don't want America to prevail. It is absurd that they have gotten NO confirmations done. Same ****heels approve all of democrats' anti-American appointments.

This makes me mad.
Ellis Wyatt
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To date: 1 Judicial confirmation
0 US Attorney confirmations
will25u
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Ellis Wyatt said:

To date: 1 Judicial confirmation
0 US Attorney confirmations


It's actually 4 judges filled, 48 vacancies left to fill.

1 appeals court
3 district court

Left to fill
44 district
3 appeals
1 court of international trade.

Trump has only submitted 9 names so far to fill the remaining 48 positions.

https://www.uscourts.gov/judges-judgeships/judicial-vacancies
https://www.senate.gov/pagelayout/legislative/one_item_and_teasers/nom_confc.htm
nortex97
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I'm still hopeful this is just Massie talking out of his ass. It would take a coordinated effort by two guys who have a lot at risk to take this action together vs. Trump. Second, a few days ago, Thune seemed to be considering supporting facilitating 'letting' Trump do some recess appointments.

Maybe they will start with this, and then pull a fast one and leave both out of session for 15 days after a couple weeks. Who knows?
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Yes, the U.S. House of Representatives can help block recess appointments by adjourning in sequence with the Senate through a strategy known as "pro forma" sessions. Here's how it works:

The Constitution (Article II, Section 2) allows the President to make recess appointments during periods when the Senate is not in session, typically for extended breaks (e.g., 10 days or more). These appointments temporarily fill vacant federal positions without Senate confirmation. However, if either chamber of Congress remains in session, even minimally, the Senate is not considered in recess, preventing the President from making such appointments.

By coordinating adjournments, the House and Senate can hold pro forma sessionsbrief, often perfunctory meetings where little or no business is conductedto ensure Congress remains technically in session. The House plays a critical role because, under Article I, Section 5, Clause 4 of the Constitution, neither chamber can adjourn for more than three days without the consent of the other. If the House refuses to consent to a Senate adjournment, the Senate cannot enter a prolonged recess, blocking the opportunity for recess appointments.

This tactic was notably used during the Obama administration. For example, starting in 2011, the House, controlled by Republicans, refused to consent to Senate adjournments, forcing both chambers to hold pro forma sessions every few days. This prevented President Obama from making recess appointments, as the Senate was never in recess long enough to trigger the President's authority.

However, this strategy's effectiveness was tested in NLRB v. Noel Canning (2014), where the Supreme Court ruled that recess appointments made during pro forma sessions in 2012 were unconstitutional. The Court held that a recess must be at least 10 days for the President to exercise recess appointment powers, and pro forma sessions, even if minimal, count as the Senate being in session. This decision affirmed that coordinated pro forma sessions by the House and Senate can effectively block recess appointments.

aggiehawg
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Thune is in a stronger position to defy Trump than Johnson is, IMO. Johnson pisses Trump off royally, he's outta there.
will25u
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BMX Bandit
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To do a recess appointment, the vacancy must "happen during the Recess," ie, offices that become vacant during that intermission
will25u
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BMX Bandit said:

To do a recess appointment, the vacancy must "happen during the Recess," ie, offices that become vacant during that intermission


The SCOTUS may have already ruled on that verbiage.

https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/artII-S2-C3-1/ALDE_00001144/#ALDF_00003004

With respect to the phrase may happen, the majority, again finding ambiguity in the text of the Clause,9 held that the Clause applied both to vacancies that first come into existence during a recess and to vacancies that initially occur before a recess but continue to exist during the recess.10 In so holding, the Court again relied on both pragmatic concerns11 and historical practice

"The Court noted, for instance, that Thomas Jefferson thought the phrase in question could point to both vacancies that may happen to be during a recess as well as those that may happen to fall during a recess. Id. at 539 (emphasis added)."
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will25u said:





No one is above the law. Not even federal judges.
Pro College Station Convention Center
BMX Bandit
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If you read the case, you will see that on the issue of when the vacancy must occur, in the concurrence, Scalia, Thomas, Roberts & Alito said during the recess. Breyer, Kennedy, Ginsberg, Sotomayor & Kagan said anytime.

So the current court has 3 votes (Roberts, Alito & Thomas) for the actual text of the constitution. How do you think Gorsuch, Kavanaugh & ACB would go on this?

Non-biologist may join them just to spite Trump.
nortex97
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Pointing out that the feckless, dishonest Biden-Obama justices 'might' flip on an issue to spite Trump is fair, but the current precedent still is what it is until then.

I don't think Trump should operate on the basis of 'well, this is the law of the land now but the dem justices would flip it if it made it to their desk.'
BMX Bandit
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I did not say that any justice would flip (though would it surprise anyone if the wise Latina suddenly had a change of heart because went against Trump). Jackson was not on the court at that time.

Trump's Department of Justice has shown it is not afraid to test the law. I expect him to do the same here. And we will have the same screeching from the usual suspects. Both of those saying that he is lawless and ignores courts, and those clamoring for him to do so.

(though here, he really wouldn't be testing anything because he does have liberal justices on his side)
will25u
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YUGE! FINALLY starting to see these cases getting resolutions. Full steam ahead coming SOON!


will25u
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Ellis Wyatt
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It's funny. Lib states can do whatever they want, but conservative states never can. Federal government is only sovereign when republicans are in the White House.
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Ellis Wyatt said:

It's funny. Lib states can do whatever they want, but conservative states never can. Federal government is only sovereign when republicans are in the White House.


Why is that? Texas tried to protect its border with Mexico during the Biden invasion of illegals and got the book thrown at it. I don't remember any judges coming to the rescue.
 
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