***** Official Trump 47 Admin Court Battles *****

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aggiehawg
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In reply to will25u • 11:57a, 5/1/25
will25u said:
So if that holds, we will see class actions used widely since a judge can just rubber stamp it and not go through the whole process?
I honestly don't know. BUT the general rule is that of two statutes, the narrower one will control. When it comes to class certification, the narrower one would be Rule 23 than the Writs Act.
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In reply to AtticusMatlock • 12:27p, 5/1/25
AtticusMatlock said:

What they cannot do is what they are alleged to have done in this district on January 7 (before Trump even took office), which is randomly stop cars and people, detain while demanding papers, and arrest.
This is absolutely not OK for anyone to do, unless you are doing it directly at the border crossing.

And, checking papers at the border crossing is SOP. That is why we have passports.
It takes a special kind of brainwashed useful idiot to politically defend government fraud, waste, and abuse.
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12:31p, 5/1/25
So, in the interim, can Trump deport people under the AEA?
It takes a special kind of brainwashed useful idiot to politically defend government fraud, waste, and abuse.
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In reply to BusterAg • 12:37p, 5/1/25
BusterAg said:
So, in the interim, can Trump deport people under the AEA?


No, that's blocked.

Insanity all around.

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12:45p, 5/1/25


This is so whacked.
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In reply to BusterAg • 1:04p, 5/1/25
BusterAg said:
AtticusMatlock said:

What they cannot do is what they are alleged to have done in this district on January 7 (before Trump even took office), which is randomly stop cars and people, detain while demanding papers, and arrest.
This is absolutely not OK for anyone to do, unless you are doing it directly at the border crossing.

And, checking papers at the border crossing is SOP. That is why we have passports.


They do this same type of thing with DUI checkpoints. I don't really see a difference here. There is basis for stopping cars without prior cause.
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In reply to FatZilla • 1:08p, 5/1/25
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They do this same type of thing with DUI checkpoints. I don't really see a difference here. There is basis for stopping cars without prior cause.
Not quite. They aren't 'random' - they require some systematic approach to who gets stopped.
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In reply to aggiehawg • 1:09p, 5/1/25
aggiehawg said:


This is so whacked.

So essentially the courts have rendered the AEA useless.
Trump will fix it.
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In reply to techno-ag • 1:14p, 5/1/25
Next step is for Trump to stop deporting and start moving all these illegals into white liberal suburbia. Rent houses for them next to lib judges and politicians. Let them eat the cats / dogs of these corrupt judges and let them rape and murder their daughters until they get a better understanding of our laws and Constitution.

Its beyond time to let the judiciary know they are not the superior branch of government.
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In reply to Aggie Jurist • 1:20p, 5/1/25
Aggie Jurist said:
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They do this same type of thing with DUI checkpoints. I don't really see a difference here. There is basis for stopping cars without prior cause.
Not quite. They aren't 'random' - they require some systematic approach to who gets stopped.
True.

They apparently can stop every vehicle driving down that particular sidewalk.



But, that's profiling. And profiling is wrong.
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In reply to aggiehawg • 1:28p, 5/1/25
aggiehawg said:


This is so whacked.
next stop: 5th Cir. Good luck.
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In reply to ThunderCougarFalconBird • 1:33p, 5/1/25
Yeah, I think the 5th won't take very long on this one.
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In reply to aggiehawg • 1:50p, 5/1/25
aggiehawg said:

This is so whacked.
On the brighter side, Trump can deport without using the AEA pretty easily, right?

What is the specific advantage that the Trump administration gains from using the AEA?
It takes a special kind of brainwashed useful idiot to politically defend government fraud, waste, and abuse.
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In reply to BusterAg • 1:53p, 5/1/25
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On the brighter side, Trump can deport without using the AEA pretty easily, right?

What is the specific advantage that the Trump administration gains from using the AEA?
Yes there are other statutes that can be used.

The advantage of using AEA is the absence of justiciable issues other than habeas and that is a very truncated proceeding. Speeds things up a lot, IMO.
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In reply to FatZilla • 1:54p, 5/1/25
FatZilla said:
BusterAg said:
AtticusMatlock said:

What they cannot do is what they are alleged to have done in this district on January 7 (before Trump even took office), which is randomly stop cars and people, detain while demanding papers, and arrest.
This is absolutely not OK for anyone to do, unless you are doing it directly at the border crossing.

And, checking papers at the border crossing is SOP. That is why we have passports.


They do this same type of thing with DUI checkpoints. I don't really see a difference here. There is basis for stopping cars without prior cause.
If that basis is a car loaded with brown people, then I do have a problem with that.

Have some prescribed method and stick to it. Could be:
  • Vehicles at or exceeding capacity for passengers
  • Vehicles with foreign plates
  • Vehicles that appear to be manufactured before 1990
  • Vehicles that are adorned with foreign flags
  • Every forth vehicle
  • Vehicles where drivers disobey any traffic law

Got to have some rational. Can't be random.
It takes a special kind of brainwashed useful idiot to politically defend government fraud, waste, and abuse.
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In reply to aggiehawg • 2:01p, 5/1/25
aggiehawg said:
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On the brighter side, Trump can deport without using the AEA pretty easily, right?

What is the specific advantage that the Trump administration gains from using the AEA?
Yes there are other statutes that can be used.

The advantage of using AEA is the absence of justiciable issues other than habeas and that is a very truncated proceeding. Speeds things up a lot, IMO.
There's a about 27 federal prisons in Texas with about 15,000 total capacity that can be cleared out for illegal aliens to be detained until this gets resolved.

Trump could pardon everyone not suspected to be cartel members in there with drug offenses of a certain degree to clear space, and ship the rest to another prison in another state.
It takes a special kind of brainwashed useful idiot to politically defend government fraud, waste, and abuse.
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2:02p, 5/1/25
"We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution."

- Abraham Lincoln
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2:12p, 5/1/25
Anti deportation folks are winning.
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In reply to Kozmozag • 2:43p, 5/1/25
Kozmozag said:
Anti deportation folks are winning.
At the moment. Prolly not for too long tho.
Trump will fix it.
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In reply to Kozmozag • 3:09p, 5/1/25
"Let not your heart be troubled."
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In reply to aggiehawg • 4:18p, 5/1/25
aggiehawg said:
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On the brighter side, Trump can deport without using the AEA pretty easily, right?

What is the specific advantage that the Trump administration gains from using the AEA?
Yes there are other statutes that can be used.

The advantage of using AEA is the absence of justiciable issues other than habeas and that is SHOULD BE a very truncated proceeding. SHOULD speed Speeds things up a lot, IMO.
Due to district court judges, I had to FIFY...
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In reply to Stat Monitor Repairman • 10:04p, 5/1/25
Stat Monitor Repairman said:
Supreme court justices gonna be hating life. Trump is gonna ruin their entire summer.


Yep. Sounds like it's gettin' testy between Wise Latina and Katanji.

We only 100 days in on Trump 2.0. Gonna be a long hot summer.
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6:17a, 5/2/25
Communist Voice of America firing injunction stayed:

These numbers aren't huge but at least show the right trend:

Ship will have a piece out today I think on the AEA Texas case (likely to be reversed in short order):
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In reply to nortex97 • 7:40a, 5/2/25
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Ship will have a piece out today I think on the AEA Texas case (likely to be reversed in short order):
Agree. I just don't see how the Writs Act could be contorted into a class action. Not on a nationwide basis, anyway. Would have file in every district to accomplish that, methinks.
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In reply to aggiehawg • 7:51a, 5/2/25
aggiehawg said:
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Ship will have a piece out today I think on the AEA Texas case (likely to be reversed in short order):
Agree. I just don't see how the Writs Act could be contorted into a class action. Not on a nationwide basis, anyway. Would have file in every district to accomplish that, methinks.
This makes total sense.

If a habeas case has to be brought in the District where the person is located, then there is no way to do a nationwide class!

In the most recent Texas case, the class is:

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Venezuelan aliens, 14 years old or older, who have not been naturalized, who Respondents have designated or in the future designate as alien enemies under the March 14, 2025, Presidential Proclamation entitled 'Invocation of the Alien Enemies Act Regarding the Invasion of the United States by Tren De Aragua', 90 Fed. Reg. 13033, and who are detained or reside in the Southern District of Texas;


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2:46p, 5/2/25
SCOTUS needs to get their act together.
"We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution."

- Abraham Lincoln
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In reply to will25u • 2:56p, 5/2/25
will25u said:
SCOTUS needs to get their act together.
Aren't arguments scheduled in the AEA case next week?
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In reply to will25u • 4:27p, 5/2/25
SCOTUS is dangerously dumbed-down at this point.
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In reply to nortex97 • 4:30p, 5/2/25
nortex97 said:
SCOTUS is dangerously dumbed-down at this point.
I hope Justice Thomas walks into her office, plays that clip, and just scowls at her until she asks him to leave.
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6:18p, 5/2/25
This is an example of "no *****" No one should be surprised by this ruling.
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In reply to HTownAg98 • 6:22p, 5/2/25
Yes, no one should be surprised that Obama-Judge Beryl Howell has written yet another emotional rant masquerading as a legal opinion about Trump.
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In reply to nortex97 • 6:37p, 5/2/25
nortex97 said:
Yes, no one should be surprised that Obama-Judge Beryl Howell has written yet another emotional rant masquerading as a legal opinion about Trump.


The more he prods them, the more they play right back into his antics / tactics. This judge's "ruling" can no be dismissed as the unhinged, liberal lawfare that her decision is.

Instead of merits, its emotional feelz cajoling together bad legal theories with Trump is the MAGA Nazi King Dictator Felon!
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In reply to flown-the-coop • 9:05p, 5/2/25
You obviously didn't bother to read it then, because it gets deep into the weeds on the merits.
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In reply to HTownAg98 • 9:11p, 5/2/25
HTownAg98 said:
You obviously didn't bother to read it then, because it gets deep into the weeds on the merits.


Oh I am sure it does. It's so full of merit she just had to sneak in a little extra Shakespeare for what?! Theatrics?

But what is her legal theory on why POTUS was outside the lines? Are we back to freedoms of speech?

To add: thanks, I feel incredibly less intelligent after reading that nonsense of a memorandum.

There is everything from, you guessed it, freedom of speech all the way to RACIAL DISCRIMINATION. I mean, when Perkins put the lawsuit together they literally threw the book at Trump.

How do they leap from revoking security clearances to all the other claims? Security clearances are a privilege not a right, not all firms are allowed security clearances and not all employees at those firms are allowed to have it.

These lawyers conspired with bad actors in our government to execute a coup, to influence an election, to mislead and deceive the citizens of the USA, for that matter the entire world.

But yea, this judge has her legal ducks all sorted here.

Laughable. Trump should simply ignore them.
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In reply to HTownAg98 • 10:12p, 5/2/25
Beryl Howell is a tyrannical piece of *****
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