***** Official Houston Rockets 2024-2025 Season Thread *****

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Guitarsoup
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Woods Ag said:

Guitarsoup said:

Dan Scott said:

NBA owners can't get rid of the players salary, is this a way to cut coaching salary. Owners probably feel the coach is replaceable so replace with a cheaper option than pay a premium for a HCOY candidate
Nuggets have to pay Malone like 17M to not coach anymore. Contract is guaranteed.

Their cap is super screwed. They had to let KCP, Uncle Jeff, and others go because they overpaid Murray and MPJ, then they gave Murray a 30% max extension that starts next year. Murray has averaged under 50 games played per season over the last 6 seasons including this year. He has 0 ASG and 0 All-NBAs and 0 All-Defense. They are over the 1st apron next year, even if Brodie opts out. And they desperately need to keep him. Also, next year repeater tax hits and they are dangerously close to the 2nd apron.

Their biggest problem is their bench, but they don't really have a good way to upgrade it.


Murray isn't the problem. It's MPJ contract. Murray's injustices are unfortunate, and he took a while to get going this year after whatever was wrong with him this summer and early season. Lingering injuries. But when he's right, he's right. I'm of the opinion, with a few exceptions like Kawahi/Embiid, that you make moves based on player ability and pray for no injuries. There are a few that you just don't bet on, but I don't think Murray is one of those.

MPJ fleeced the Nuggets and they e been screwed since.
When MPJ signed his contract, he had just put up 19/7 on 54/45 shooting and was playing some defense and Joker took the leap to make his first MVP. He was clearly an elite movement shooter that could defend some, and that is exactly what you would want with the point-center. Then he had back surgery the next season, and he has been good, but not quite as good as he was before. It was still a 25% max instead of a 30% max.

You are right, when Murray is on, he is an All-NBA level player, but he is not on all the time. Plus all the injuries (again under 50 games per season over the last 6 seasons, no seasons with over 65 games in that time. Giving him a 30% max that starts next year is absolutely awful. They weren't bidding against anyone. Like MPJ, Murray's first extension makes some sense. He played nearly every game in his first three years and was improving. But he was 18/5/4 guy with ok shooting (.437/.367) But the best ability is availability and Murray is out so much, and he is not the 23 championship run Jamal Murray so much. That is not a 30% max guy. He had a great Feb and March, so if he can get healthy for the playoffs, maybe he can play like 23 Playoff Murray again.

Porter at least played 81 games last year and is at 74 this year. And he is again putting up great shooting splits for a 6'10 guy at .504/.393.

The problem is neither is worth a max contract, and both are getting it. Murray has flashes where he is, but it is inconsistent, like his availability. I really think it is the cumulative effect of both producing less than their cap hit. Murray's cap hit next year is the same as Donovan Mitchell and more than Luka, Trae, and Ant.
The Original Houston 1836
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A month ago, the Rockets were 37-25 and trailing the Lakers (39-21), the Nuggets (40-22), and the Grizzlies (38-24).

Records since then:
Houston 15-2
LA 9-10
Memphis 9-8
Denver 7-10


linkdude
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The cream rises to the top
WES2006AG
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Looks like we are sitting the starting lineup tonight with the exception of Jalen.
FrioAg 00
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I don't hate it. Get some rest - we still have 2 more to use to keep them in sync
FrioAg 00
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Portland is trying to do us a solid, close game with Utah, but apparently Phoenix didn't get the memo and they are up by 11 in the first half.

If the cards fall right out draft position could move up a spot.
Silent For Too Long
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The Original Houston 1836 said:

A month ago, the Rockets were 37-25 and trailing the Lakers (39-21), the Nuggets (40-22), and the Grizzlies (38-24).

Records since then:
Houston 15-2
LA 9-10
Memphis 9-8
Denver 7-10





With a team that went 41-41.

Coach of the year, give it to him.


I'm pretty sure if you took out the games when Jabari, turkey, fvv and Tari were all injured at the same time, this teams winning percentage would be up there with OKC and Cleveland.
linkdude
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Sheppard and Tate!!
linkdude
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36-35 Clips after one. Sheppard/Whitmore with 8 a piece and Harden with 13 to lead the way for LA.
superaggie73
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Batum can't miss. And he looks 10 years older than Jeff Green.
linkdude
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15 pts in 7 minutes for Batum
FrioAg 00
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Portland blows 4 of 6 free throws with under 40 second in regulation, giving Utah OT where they freaking won it. 3 of those misses came from an 80% FT shooter. He was definitely told to miss them.

Now need Phoenix to finish losing to OKC just to have a chance to hop them in lottery odds.
Guitarsoup
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FrioAg 00 said:

Portland blows 4 of 6 free throws with under 40 second in regulation, giving Utah OT where they freaking won it.

Now need Phoenix to finish losing to OKC just to have a chance to hop them in lottery odds.
Portland should be ashamed. They gave up 30/18/5/3/2 to Kyle Flipkowski.
superaggie73
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Harden takes out Whitmore like Jaylon Wells got taken out last night and ref doesn't even blow his whistle.
Jackal99
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Reed
mAgnoliAg
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Spurs knock the warriors into the play in
Guitarsoup
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mAgnoliAg said:

Spurs knock the warriors into the play in


We screwed up the playoffs last year as well when we upset Denver
AgBrother
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Watching Minnesota and Memphis and defense is optional especially for Memphis. Minnesota hangs on and they are in a 3 way tie with GS and Memphis
The Original Houston 1836
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Pretty crazy to think that a month ago we were all dreading this final 2-game swing vs the Lakers and Nuggets and now it has no meaning for the Rockets.

The Lakers are now 92% for the #3 seed, but the hard-charging Clippers are still alive and the fading Nuggets are alive, although just barely. After the Rockets, Thunder, and Lakers, there are six teams with either 48 or 47 wins. The Mavericks and the Kings have locked up 9 and 10.

As of right now on playoffstatus, the Warriors are 32% for #7, the Nuggets are 29%, the Grizz are 18%, the Clippers are 15% and the T-Wolves are 6%.

Once the play-in is decided we should do a little pick the playoffs contest.

3B Paul 97
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I really want to see the Warriors in the 4/5 matchup. Then they get OKC second round.
The Original Houston 1836
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3B Paul 97 said:

I really want to see the Warriors in the 4/5 matchup. Then they get OKC second round.
yea they have slacked off a little but I don't want to see Curry and Butler unless I have to. Even if that means having to play G-league legend Bronny James in the second round.
Guitarsoup
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Y'all have to cheer for the Spurs tonight. Spurs vs Phoenix. If Spurs lose, Phoenix has a chance to get down to a tie for the 8th seed in the lottery.

Rockets obviously have the Suns' unprotected pick this year.

If teams tie for the same lottery spot, the lottery balls for that pick and the next pick are split evenly between the two teams.
The Original Houston 1836
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Crispin Torque
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Cam and Reed have shown some things in their expanded roles the last two games. Seems like if Cam was capable of earning time in the rotation, he would have by now. But I am interested to see if Reed can get some playoff minutes now that he is healthy again.
MaxPower
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Crispin Torque said:

Cam and Reed have shown some things in their expanded roles the last two games. Seems like if Cam was capable of earning time in the rotation, he would have by now. But I am interested to see if Reed can get some playoff minutes now that he is healthy again.
I didn't catch the game last night but how did these two look defensively? 140 in regulation is….not good.
superaggie73
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Crispin Torque said:

Cam and Reed have shown some things in their expanded roles the last two games. Seems like if Cam was capable of earning time in the rotation, he would have by now. But I am interested to see if Reed can get some playoff minutes now that he is healthy again.


I think at the end of the day it comes down to defense for Udoka. And he doesn't trust that those 2 can play good enough defense at this time.
Guitarsoup
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Crispin Torque said:

Cam and Reed have shown some things in their expanded roles the last two games. Seems like if Cam was capable of earning time in the rotation, he would have by now. But I am interested to see if Reed can get some playoff minutes now that he is healthy again.
Teams tend to tighten up not loosen up rotations in the playoffs, so without injury or foul trouble, it is unlikely he will get much of a playoff role. But it is definitely promising for next year.
Woods Ag
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In Denver, just placed DraftKings bet on Rockets all the way +9000

Edit: stopped in Denver airport on layover.
shano0603
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Woods Ag said:

In Denver, just placed DraftKings bet on Rockets all the way +9000

See you in Denver
Ags #1
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So going to play warriors and warriors?
PoppaB05
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Uggh

Really didn't want the Warriors. Hope Memphis somehow wins
cooperpatterson
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What a more poetic way to start a winning era in Rockets basketball than beating Curry in a playoff series though
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FrioAg 00
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Making sure if got this - we play the winner of tomorrow night's Memphis v Golden State game regardless of what else happens in the Play-In, correct?

Personally I won't be surprised if Morant goes off and wins this game. He's not great for an entire series, but he can take over a single game when properly motivated
cooperpatterson
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Exactly right!
 
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