***** Official Houston Rockets 2024-2025 Season Thread *****

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In reply to The Original Houston 1836 • 9:30a, 4/29/25
The Original Houston 1836 said:
I think Udoka knows this series was not winnable. Between the refs and the Warriors' experience, this is a seasoning experience. Everybody but Adams and VanVleet has played scared just bout every night. When Sengun is under pressure he is just throwing the ball at the rim. I hope they lock up Adams for as long as he wants to be in the league, because that guy clearly gets what the playoffs are and rises to the occasion.

I think the plan was to not bring in KD at the deadline because they knew OKC was winning the west anyways. Let these guys duke it out and see who shows up in the big time and can be an integral part of a championship team, and then you know who is more expendable in the trade.
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In reply to The Original Houston 1836 • 9:31a, 4/29/25
Watch the replay and Butler does do a little flop to make the contact seem worse than what it was. He's gotten away with those little flops the entire series and every single time it's been a foul.
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In reply to rrn130 • 9:33a, 4/29/25
Hopefully Sengun learns from this play and becomes a better player. He clearly wanted to get to his right hand on this play and Draymond knew it. Sengun had enough time to take a few more power dribbles into the paint instead of settling for that specific shot.

That was a tough end to the game last night, but it is important to remember that this is really an exercise in growth and learning. Realistically speaking, we all knew that there was a 0% chance of us winning an NBA title. Our team clearly overachieved to get the 2 seed, while GS clearly underachieved to get the 7. They have way too much experience as a collective unit for us to overcome with athleticism, energy and physicality. In many ways, I'm still very proud of our team and their effort. They are giving their opponent absolute hell, it just turns out they are playing a really good team.

At the beginning of the season, if I told you that our team would go toe-to-toe in the playoffs with GS (who somehow traded Andrew Wiggins for playoff Jimmy)...most of you would have been extremely happy. Despite the outcome, its easier to endure this performance than the Harden years, where you thought you had a real chance to win it all but James would just crumble in the biggest moments. I really can't be mad that Jalen green is inconsistent, I can't be mad that Alpi missed a shot near the basket, and I can't be mad that we miss wide open 3's....we've literally done that all year. GS has scored 95, 104 and 109 points in their 3 wins. The kids are fighting their asses off and I definitely appreciate that.

Game 5 will give us a true measure of this team's heart and potential. I'm hoping they don't go quietly.
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In reply to mAgnoliAg • 9:34a, 4/29/25
mAgnoliAg said:
The Original Houston 1836 said:
I think Udoka knows this series was not winnable. Between the refs and the Warriors' experience, this is a seasoning experience. Everybody but Adams and VanVleet has played scared just bout every night. When Sengun is under pressure he is just throwing the ball at the rim. I hope they lock up Adams for as long as he wants to be in the league, because that guy clearly gets what the playoffs are and rises to the occasion.

I think the plan was to not bring in KD at the deadline because they knew OKC was winning the west anyways. Let these guys duke it out and see who shows up in the big time and can be an integral part of a championship team, and then you know who is more expendable in the trade.
I sure hope it's Giannis and not Durant.
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In reply to AG@RICE • 9:41a, 4/29/25
Definitely sucks! All are valid points. The team has done better than most expected and isn't just rolling over like Miami did. Saying that our half court offense has looked almost lost the entire series outside of Jabari being able to shoot over people. I was more upset that we lost game three because I knew that was the one that would've kept us in the series. I'm sure we're not gonna go out without a fight, maybe literally, and the team will grow from this. However, that doesn't mean we all can't be super frustrated that we haven't won games that were definitely winnable.
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10:27a, 4/29/25
Tari Eason's mom is quite a follow

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11:04a, 4/29/25
The Rockets are so frustrating because you can tell they have a lot of talent, but they don't have that guy who can carry the team. Jalen looks like that guy at times, but then disappears (sensational in Game 2, but MIA in 1, 3 and 4). Amen might be that guy some day, but he is limited offensively and shooting just doesn't come naturally to him. Sengun is a good player, but not a great one.

The lack of shooting ability on this team is crippling. We make offense look so difficult at times. The free throws is inexcusable.

There a move away from being legit. I don't know what it is...Durant is the name mentioned most, but he is old and makes a fortune. Don't know how realistic any of the other names are. But, I'm not optimistic that we have that guy.
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In reply to Snake Jazz • 11:05a, 4/29/25
Snake Jazz said:
The Rockets are so frustrating because you can tell they have a lot of talent, but they don't have that guy who can carry the team. Jalen looks like that guy at times, but then disappears (sensational in Game 2, but MIA in 1, 3 and 4). Amen might be that guy some day, but he is limited offensively and shooting just doesn't come naturally to him. Sengun is a good player, but not a great one.

The lack of shooting ability on this team is crippling. We make offense look so difficult at times. The free throws is inexcusable.

They're a move away from being legit. I don't know what it is...Durant is the name mentioned most, but he is old and makes a fortune. Don't know how realistic any of the other names are. But, I'm not optimistic that we have that guy.
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In reply to Snake Jazz • 11:06a, 4/29/25
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Snake Jazz said:
The Rockets are so frustrating because you can tell they have a lot of talent, but they don't have that guy who can carry the team. Jalen looks like that guy at times, but then disappears (sensational in Game 2, but MIA in 1, 3 and 4). Amen might be that guy some day, but he is limited offensively and shooting just doesn't come naturally to him. Sengun is a good player, but not a great one.

The lack of shooting ability on this team is crippling. We make offense look so difficult at times. The free throws is inexcusable.

They're a move away from being legit. I don't know what it is...Durant is the name mentioned most, but he is old and makes a fortune. Don't know how realistic any of the other names are. But, I'm not optimistic that we have that guy.
Edit: sorry...meant to correct a type-o and accidentally quoted myself.
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In reply to Snake Jazz • 1:05p, 4/29/25
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The Rockets are so frustrating because you can tell they have a lot of talent, but they don't have that guy who can carry the team. Jalen looks like that guy at times, but then disappears (sensational in Game 2, but MIA in 1, 3 and 4). Amen might be that guy some day, but he is limited offensively and shooting just doesn't come naturally to him. Sengun is a good player, but not a great one.

The lack of shooting ability on this team is crippling. We make offense look so difficult at times. The free throws is inexcusable.

There a move away from being legit. I don't know what it is...Durant is the name mentioned most, but he is old and makes a fortune. Don't know how realistic any of the other names are. But, I'm not optimistic that we have that guy.
Sengun is a great player. Any other team would have fouled out with the stuff the Warriors are allowed to get away with on him. He's not used to playoff physicality and preferential treatment for the other team. This is a learning experience for him.
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1:21p, 4/29/25
I think if they get Giannis they'll have to change the team makeup a lot. A guard that can shoot and score in isolation slots into this team easily in place of Fred or Jalen
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In reply to Heineken-Ashi • 1:30p, 4/29/25
Heineken-Ashi said:
Snake Jazz said:
The Rockets are so frustrating because you can tell they have a lot of talent, but they don't have that guy who can carry the team. Jalen looks like that guy at times, but then disappears (sensational in Game 2, but MIA in 1, 3 and 4). Amen might be that guy some day, but he is limited offensively and shooting just doesn't come naturally to him. Sengun is a good player, but not a great one.

The lack of shooting ability on this team is crippling. We make offense look so difficult at times. The free throws is inexcusable.

There a move away from being legit. I don't know what it is...Durant is the name mentioned most, but he is old and makes a fortune. Don't know how realistic any of the other names are. But, I'm not optimistic that we have that guy.
Sengun is a great player. Any other team would have fouled out with the stuff the Warriors are allowed to get away with on him. He's not used to playoff physicality and preferential treatment for the other team. This is a learning experience for him.
He's pure **** around the rim because he's too often tentative with his shot. Its most evident when he tries to put those little floaters up and they just go off the front of the rim. We need the Alpy of the first part of Game 1 100% of the time.

Offensive consistency is what both him and Green lack, and you cannot rely on players that arent consistent.

Obligatory: They're young and maybe it develops, but more often than not they just become role players. Jalen Green is Jamal Crawford.
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2:11p, 4/29/25
Sengun needs to leave the finesse game behind in the regular season once he's in the lane. I'm pretty sure Pau Gasol learned the same lesson the hard way in his early years. Every time you go up you should be trying to throw it down, especially if you suck ass at the FT line like Sengun does.

How much they've learned in Cali will be on display for Game 5. Do they wilt away or ball up?

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6:25p, 4/29/25
Really need an alpha dog, sick and tired of losing to the warrior in the playoffs.
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6:43p, 4/29/25
Sit green and start Jabari and move amen to greens spot
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6:48p, 4/29/25
Just remember, Harden wanted to come back to Houston. He may not be what he was 5-6 years ago, but he's certainly better than FVV and Jalen.
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In reply to 1876er • 7:34p, 4/29/25
1876er said:
Just remember, Harden wanted to come back to Houston. He may not be what he was 5-6 years ago, but he's certainly better than FVV and Jalen.


He was a culture cancer that we had to rid in order to be where we are now with grinders that fit Ime.

This is the only playoff series that I can remember that he hasn't completely disappeared and seemed either uninterested or scared.
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8:29p, 4/29/25
Testing
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In reply to Woods Ag • 8:43p, 4/29/25
Woods Ag said:
1876er said:
Just remember, Harden wanted to come back to Houston. He may not be what he was 5-6 years ago, but he's certainly better than FVV and Jalen.


He was a culture cancer that we had to rid in order to be where we are now with grinders that fit Ime.

This is the only playoff series that I can remember that he hasn't completely disappeared and seemed either uninterested or scared.


He certainly had some poor (by his standards) games in the playoffs, but he still averaged about 30 ppg in the playoffs here. That doesn't seem uninterested.
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In reply to Woods Ag • 8:51p, 4/29/25
Woods Ag said:
This is the only playoff series that I can remember that he hasn't completely disappeared and seemed either uninterested or scared.
Hasn't had a Harden game yet. He is due.
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In reply to 1876er • 6:18a, 4/30/25
1876er said:
Woods Ag said:
1876er said:
Just remember, Harden wanted to come back to Houston. He may not be what he was 5-6 years ago, but he's certainly better than FVV and Jalen.


He was a culture cancer that we had to rid in order to be where we are now with grinders that fit Ime.

This is the only playoff series that I can remember that he hasn't completely disappeared and seemed either uninterested or scared.


He certainly had some poor (by his standards) games in the playoffs, but he still averaged about 30 ppg in the playoffs here. That doesn't seem uninterested.
Game 2, 2014 WC first round vs. Portland, 8 of 28 shooting (L)
Game 3, 2015 WCF vs. Golden State: 3 of 16 shooting (L)
Game 5, 2015 WCF vs Golden State: 2 of 11 shooting, 12 turnovers (elimination game - L)
Game 2, 2017 WCSF vs. San Antonio: 3 of 17 shooting, 4 turnovers, 4 personals (L)
Game 6, 2017 WCSF vs San Antonio, 2 of 11 shooting, 6 turnovers and fouled out in 36 minutes (elimination game - L)
Game 7, 2018 WCF vs. Golden State, 12 of 29 shooting, 2 of 13 3 pointers, 5 turnovers (elimination game - L)

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In reply to 1876er • 11:19a, 4/30/25
1876er said:
Just remember, Harden wanted to come back to Houston. He may not be what he was 5-6 years ago, but he's certainly better than FVV and Jalen.
No thanks.

Playoff James showed up last night: 35 mins, 11pts, (3-9, 0-2 from 3, 5-8 from FT), 4 TOs, -16 for the game...

I think we'd be in the exact same place with James....just with a butt load of dribbling at the top of the key
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11:55a, 4/30/25
Harden is so much bigger than a Box Score. He was so right when he called himself the system a few years ago. Norman Powell and Zubac being as good as they are is largely due to James Harden as a leader but mostly as a player.
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In reply to cooperpatterson • 12:13p, 4/30/25
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Harden is so much bigger than a Box Score. He was so right when he called himself the system a few years ago. Norman Powell and Zubac being as good as they are is largely due to James Harden as a leader but mostly as a player.


The system broke last night and is going to lose to a 5man Denver team.
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In reply to Woods Ag • 12:16p, 4/30/25
Woods Ag said:
cooperpatterson said:
Harden is so much bigger than a Box Score. He was so right when he called himself the system a few years ago. Norman Powell and Zubac being as good as they are is largely due to James Harden as a leader but mostly as a player.


The system broke last night and is going to lose to a 5man Denver team.
LAC losing to this Denver team would be very on brand for James.
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12:59p, 4/30/25
my biggest issue with Harden was you could see him backing of his game when the series was on the line. He got super passive and wouldn't drive to the basket. By the end of his time with the Rockets, I could not stand him.
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In reply to Woods Ag • 1:33p, 4/30/25
Woods Ag said:
Heineken-Ashi said:
Snake Jazz said:
The Rockets are so frustrating because you can tell they have a lot of talent, but they don't have that guy who can carry the team. Jalen looks like that guy at times, but then disappears (sensational in Game 2, but MIA in 1, 3 and 4). Amen might be that guy some day, but he is limited offensively and shooting just doesn't come naturally to him. Sengun is a good player, but not a great one.

The lack of shooting ability on this team is crippling. We make offense look so difficult at times. The free throws is inexcusable.

There a move away from being legit. I don't know what it is...Durant is the name mentioned most, but he is old and makes a fortune. Don't know how realistic any of the other names are. But, I'm not optimistic that we have that guy.
Sengun is a great player. Any other team would have fouled out with the stuff the Warriors are allowed to get away with on him. He's not used to playoff physicality and preferential treatment for the other team. This is a learning experience for him.
He's pure **** around the rim because he's too often tentative with his shot. Its most evident when he tries to put those little floaters up and they just go off the front of the rim. We need the Alpy of the first part of Game 1 100% of the time.

Offensive consistency is what both him and Green lack, and you cannot rely on players that arent consistent.

Obligatory: They're young and maybe it develops, but more often than not they just become role players. Jalen Green is Jamal Crawford.
Thse floaters weren't hitting front rim early in the series. Seems more like tired legs to me. Or a combo of both.
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In reply to Heineken-Ashi • 2:09p, 4/30/25
Heineken-Ashi said:
Woods Ag said:
Heineken-Ashi said:
Snake Jazz said:
The Rockets are so frustrating because you can tell they have a lot of talent, but they don't have that guy who can carry the team. Jalen looks like that guy at times, but then disappears (sensational in Game 2, but MIA in 1, 3 and 4). Amen might be that guy some day, but he is limited offensively and shooting just doesn't come naturally to him. Sengun is a good player, but not a great one.

The lack of shooting ability on this team is crippling. We make offense look so difficult at times. The free throws is inexcusable.

There a move away from being legit. I don't know what it is...Durant is the name mentioned most, but he is old and makes a fortune. Don't know how realistic any of the other names are. But, I'm not optimistic that we have that guy.
Sengun is a great player. Any other team would have fouled out with the stuff the Warriors are allowed to get away with on him. He's not used to playoff physicality and preferential treatment for the other team. This is a learning experience for him.
He's pure **** around the rim because he's too often tentative with his shot. Its most evident when he tries to put those little floaters up and they just go off the front of the rim. We need the Alpy of the first part of Game 1 100% of the time.

Offensive consistency is what both him and Green lack, and you cannot rely on players that arent consistent.

Obligatory: They're young and maybe it develops, but more often than not they just become role players. Jalen Green is Jamal Crawford.
Thse floaters weren't hitting front rim early in the series. Seems more like tired legs to me. Or a combo of both.
It's just been a common theme of his all year. I say tentative because that's what it seems like to me. Sometimes he's going up confident and the shots fall, and sometimes it's almost a hesitation as he gets to his release point and those are the nights he can't hit anything.

It's incredibly frustrating because when he's right, he's right. It's just too inconsistent. I notoriously can't stand Jalen Green, and I've hated on Alpy alot this year as well, but it's important to continue to point out that all of the players on this team that will carry them to Ws in the future are around 22 years old. There isn't a team in the history of basketball that dominated at 22 years old. This is natural progression and trials all the best young core teams have to go through and it often times takes more than 1 playoff season to get there. They gotta get their asses beat to develop the killer that it's going to take to step on someones throat as they should have in game 3.
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3:54p, 4/30/25
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/44921212/the-houston-rockets-waiting-their-next-superstar

ESPN Article just dropped with Rockets saying as much. Good to see them on the same page. I really don't want to see them tear apart a team this young.

Only exception is an Ant/Booker type available and it only costs us Jalen Green, Whitmore and picks. Eason, Shepp, Amen and less so Jabari are untouchables for the time being to me.
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4:26p, 4/30/25
I'd trade everyone but Amen for Anthony Edwards
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In reply to Woods Ag • 4:40p, 4/30/25
They might be able to hold on another year to this group but the NBA is no longer built to allow a team of 7 or 8 good players. Jabari and Tari are both free agents after next year. Amen and Cam the year after that. No way they can give all those guys second contracts. Having a bunch of young guys really only has value if you're the team that's going to have them when they do eventually hit their prime. It's a player cap so that's why you need superstars. You want guys who can outplay a max contract because you can't build a team of 7+ guys getting 50-75% of a max contract.
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5:01p, 4/30/25

Maybe Jalen is the anti-Harden and waits until elimination games to show up.
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5:25p, 4/30/25
I feel like we are due for things to go our way a bit and I bet they will tonight. I think we win another by 15+ points and set up for a tight game 6.
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In reply to k20dub • 5:32p, 4/30/25
k20dub said:
I feel like we are due for things to go our way a bit and I bet they will tonight. I think we win another by 15+ points and set up for a tight game 6.


Warriors are going to be out for the kill tonight. I hope Amen is aggressive to the hoop early and often.
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6:35p, 4/30/25
Jalen Green redemption game.
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