Glad they at least gave us a sweat today.

It's a putting competition, especially the first two days.

I want guys that make the most putts over 25ft. Vice Captains and even caddies should be the best green readers available.

And probably most importantly, the PGA and PGAT need to figure out the scheduling, especially when it's on US soil. These guys should have played Bethpage 20 times over the last year, build a schedule where guys have an opportunity to go there and practice. They've got 4 years until Hazeltine, figure out a schedule that helps gets these guys up there throughout the season, especially in August/September.

And yes, get a captain where this is his full time job. Keegan would probably be great in another 5 years when he's no longer playing competitively.

And do away with all the auto qualifiers. Let the captain and his team select the 12 best players that fit what they are looking for. Maybe then guys will start playing more practice rounds together throughout the season.

You're sounding like a fat Pat sponsor

Get Adam Sandler to be captain. It worked in Happy Gilmore 2

Bunk Moreland said:

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You're sounding like a fat Pat sponsor

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I mean, why pick P Reed when he finished behind Talor Gooch in the LIV standings? Finished behind a struggling Matt Wolff in last year's standings. He's just not very good.

European fans will say the Hovland thing didn't matter, but don't forget the 1/2 points to get them to 15 came AFTER the cup was retained because of the Hovland/English match. The last two matches may have ended the same way, but the Americans had nothing to play for.

aggiegolfer2012 said:

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I mean, why pick P Reed when he finished behind Talor Gooch in the LIV standings? Finished behind a struggling Matt Wolff in last year's standings. He's just not very good.

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Because people called him captain america in 2014. No need to consider the fact that he last played in a Ryder Cup in 2018, went 1-2, and then publicly torched the captain and his teammates afterward (even though he got to play 2 four ball sessions with his idol). All of that is secondary to the mean stare he would bring.

I'm on record saying if in two years some other guys on the LiV tour are playing really well when it's time to fill out the team, they should be considered.

Danny Vermin said:

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I'm on record saying if in two years some other guys on the LiV tour are playing really well when it's time to fill out the team, they should be considered.

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That's how Bryson is here. The fact of the matter is that it's mostly the foreigners who are playing well and dominating LIV, partly because it is foreigner heavy. Brooks was on the '23 team but his game has fallen off.

Would you have rather had Brooks this week or Harris English?

I don't care where Brooks game is but you take him all day. Probably not a great comparison given English was an auto qualifier.

_lefraud_ said:

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It's a putting competition, especially the first two days.

I want guys that make the most putts over 25ft. Vice Captains and even caddies should be the best green readers available.

And probably most importantly, the PGA and PGAT need to figure out the scheduling, especially when it's on US soil. These guys should have played Bethpage 20 times over the last year, build a schedule where guys have an opportunity to go there and practice. They've got 4 years until Hazeltine, figure out a schedule that helps gets these guys up there throughout the season, especially in August/September.

And yes, get a captain where this is his full time job. Keegan would probably be great in another 5 years when he's no longer playing competitively.

And do away with all the auto qualifiers. Let the captain and his team select the 12 best players that fit what they are looking for. Maybe then guys will start playing more practice rounds together throughout the season.

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so more of the "boys club" scenarios? Hard no for me. Don't need a ZJ type of captain who's going to pick his buddies. That opens up to many questionable possibilities for me.

They need to name a captain this week and let him start preparing. This should be his full time job because all we will hear is how the US hasn't won an away RC since 1993.

aggiegolfer2012 said:

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Maybe we just go complete opposite, stop trying to figure out the European way, and just go full American. We can't recreate their culture, so say **** it. Tell the guys they can show up and treat it like a major week, and do whatever they do in a normal major week. No buses, get courtesy cars and let them do all their normal stuff. If they don't want to stay with the team, stay at a hotel or Airbnb with whoever you normally stay with. No fake team chemistry pep talks, no rah rah motivation speech BS that they're probably rolling their eyes during wondering when they can go hit balls. If your normal routine is being there for a practice round at 7:00 by yourself and then practicing for a couple hours and going back to your hotel, do it. Don't want to show up for a dinner? Don't. Show up whatever day you normally show up, prep how you normally do for a major, send them their tee time and show up on the first tee ready.

Stop trying to make these guys something they aren't. They aren't all best friends, they don't all love each other like the Euros. So stop trying to be like them one week a year, it isn't working.

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In addition, I think we should get Citi, Capgemini, Rolex, Michelob Ultra, T Mobil, SAP, Jeep, Aon, DP World Tour, Enterprise Mobility and the hundreds of other sponsors to put up some big $$ for our guys to play for within the Ryder Cup.

Like $500k to each player for every match won, $1M bonus to the top strokes gained performer in each session, $5M to the most points earned over the weekend, $2M to best strokes gained over the weekend, and $2M bonus to each player if the team wins.

cab559 said:

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Would you have rather had Brooks this week or Harris English?

I don't care where Brooks game is but you take him all day. Probably not a great comparison given English was an auto qualifier.

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The last thing the US needs is more guys that don't give two ****s about the Ryder Cup. Especially ones that are playing terrible golf.

Hell yeah
Just steer all the way into it

Can't wait to see the celebration after we win

I'll have more serious thoughts later on what to do going forward. It's just hard to know what's possible because the body that governs the team behind the scenes is so opaque and stale. I've heard it rumored that the PGAT could be looking to purchase majority rights to USA Ryder Cup from the PGA of America. That can't happen soon enough IMO but I'll believe it when I see it.

We need a "front office" of sorts that's tasked with course-customized roster building, pairings, strategy, etc. It needs to be a continuous group of people who are technically sound and given the opportunity to learn from mistakes initially. The idea that we're going to figure things out while bouncing from captain to captain, new idea to new idea... it's just not smart.

When I look at the field of potential captains for 2027, none excite me whatsoever. Not even shiny object names like Tiger or Phil. It's just more of the same. We need to play a long term game of continuity. Again, I think a big part of our problem is bouncing around.

I think Keegan could be a perfect "Dan Campbell" style captain if we have the right infrastructure around him. He's a great leader, communicator, brings the energy/passion. But he needs help. He needs an E Molinari or some group of people around him that recreates him in the aggregate (ie Webb + two chief stats guys). If a setup like that is possible, I'd be game to give Keegan captaincy of the next five cups. He's exactly the type of guy that can look in the mirror and learn from his mistakes this year.

It would be cool if Scottie decided to turn the Ryder Cup into a personal passion project the way Rory did after 2021. He's the one guy who has the clout to hold his player peers and team governing bodies accountable. Another thing I'll chalk up in the "believe it when I see it" category.

Hahaha yea. Fully lean into the money side, win, and then make a mockery of the event that the Euros hold so dear. Would be hilarious.

Rory McIlroy covered up Bryson DeChambeau’s name with a European flag while celebrating winning the Ryder Cuppic.twitter.com/zvcWbWLeoY

— Flushing It (@flushingitgolf) September 29, 2025

Dude avoided Bryson all weekend then does petty **** like this.

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They need to name a captain this week and let him start preparing. This should be his full time job because all we will hear is how the US hasn't won an away RC since 1993.

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Presidents cup started in 1994. I think it's no coincidence how terrible our RC record has been since then.

First step should be getting rid of an event that I think no one would miss besides Gary Player.

100%. The Presidents Cup needs to go. At the very least, we need to scale back our involvement. Like I said on another thread, we should use it as a training ground for our under 25 players and/or an audition zone for potential future Ryder Cup captains.

Ideally the Presidents Cup goes away entirely and play the Ryder Cup every year. It's one of the biggest travesties in golf that you only get to play a home Ryder Cup every four years.

cab559 said:

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Would you have rather had Brooks this week or Harris English?

I don't care where Brooks game is but you take him all day. Probably not a great comparison given English was an auto qualifier.

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I feel like one of the fallouts of LIV and the fact that no one watches it is people have outdated and misplaced views on the state of their games. Their only memories of Brooks is from 5 years ago so that's what they envision he still is. But he has not been good for quite a while now. I have no doubt that if he regained his form he would be considered. But he, in no way, warranted consideration for this team.

Captains should be on the job for 4 years starting with a home cup, which on paper is easier, and then go on the road with experience.

cb1919 said:

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Captains should be on the job for 4 years starting with a home cup, which on paper is easier, and then go on the road with experience.

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At the very least, this needs to happen. It's also part of the reason why I don't think Tiger/Phil are good fits.

you could also make the argument that we underthink it. We messed up the course set-up, we messed up the pairings, we messed up who teed off on #1 in the Scottie group, etc. etc.

Listening to McGinley talk afterwards and he sounded like Europe is just a much better at the administrative side of this thing.

Yes, I attribute most of those mistakes to overthinking things and not just doing the obvious though.

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Apparently Brandel floated Justin Leonard as a potential captain. Gotta say, that does make some sense. Clearly loves the Ryder Cup and would have the time to dedicate to it. Probably the closest American comparison to Luke Donald that I can think of.

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I'd be fine with that. One of the few Americans from that era to play on multiple winning teams.

MAROON said:

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you could also make the argument that we underthink it. We messed up the course set-up, we messed up the pairings, we messed up who teed off on #1 in the Scottie group, etc. etc.

Listening to McGinley talk afterwards and he sounded like Europe is just a much better at the administrative side of this thing.

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of course he would say that since he's on staff and they won.

MAROON said:

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you could also make the argument that we underthink it. We messed up the course set-up, we messed up the pairings, we messed up who teed off on #1 in the Scottie group, etc. etc.

Listening to McGinley talk afterwards and he sounded like Europe is just a much better at the administrative side of this thing.

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Yeah. We'll all (me included) ***** and complain about the players, captains, etc. because they're visible, but Europe's true advantage probably lies in a bunch of unknown, behind-the-scenes guys doing the tedious little things that optimizes their players' ability to play well. Which includes everything from acclimating to the time zone, to accommodations, to nutrition and wellness stuff, to actual golf stuff like course set-up and pairings, etc. That's probably what we should concentrate on building the next 2 years rather than constantly debating the captain and the last captain's pick.