aggiehawg said:
Teslag said:
They didn't under the Soviets but somewhat shifted in the decades since. Most of what they had was lost in 2022 and they haven't rebuilt it since moving to just throwing bodies at the problem. It's also what would get them absolutely annihilated in a conventional war with NATO among other things.
Russia's only claim to superpower status is their nuclear arsenal. Their conventional forces are presently no better than many single nations in NATO.
Okay, thanks. Not the best time to rebuild an NCO corps during actual wartime. Who is left to teach them?
That's really just not accurate.
Really, I don't want to get into a 'debate' with the poster you quoted but ultimately the Russians have more commissioned vs. non-commissioned officers, leading to some popular misperceptions.
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But in terms of commissioned officers, Russia has much more on average30% of the armed forces were officers in Russia, while only 16% for NATO countries, from one statistic.
In fact, years ago Russia had begun staffing officers into NCO roles. So you'd have lieutenants doing sergeants' duties, for instance. This partly explains why even Russia's previous "lack" of NCOs was to some extents misunderstood and overestimated. After all, if you have much higher trained, actual officers doing the work of an NCO, on top of the officers leading the unit, then where's the problem?
Some in the West believe this partly explains why Russian officers are known to fight more on the frontlines, compared to their Western counterparts. And perhaps there's some truth to that. Some experts say that Russian sergeants perform more of an "SME" (subject matter expert) role rather than a "leadership" role. i.e. they can teach the grunts the intricacies of all the weapons systems, but don't have the leadership capabilities to "take over" for the officer, should he be absent for whatever reasoni.e. killed or simply leading "from the rear". Perhaps there was some truth to this long ago, but like I said, there have been strong reforms and investments in training sergeants and they no longer resemble those of the pre-2010 period.
Also, since Russia is much more officer heavy, more officers tend to die on average than in comparable countries just by their sheer overabundance. This feeds the perception that they always haphazardly "fight on the frontline". In reality, the truth is somewhere in the middle.
More at the link. The
myth that this is somehow a meat grinder where leadership is killed off rapidly is just that. Command down to small unit leadership has much more combat experience vs. 1,2, or 4 etc. years ago.