***** Official Houston Rockets 2024-2025 Season Thread *****

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Guitarsoup
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TREX01 said:

Great team defensive analytics is code for "couldn't guard Sister Jean"


He also led all of college basketball in steals, steals per game, and steal percentage. He wasn't a weak link on defense at all, that was Rob Dillingham.
texasaggie2015
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I'm concerned with Reed but not remotely close to calling him a bust yet.
TREX01
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Guitarsoup said:

TREX01 said:

Great team defensive analytics is code for "couldn't guard Sister Jean"


He also led all of college basketball in steals, steals per game, and steal percentage. He wasn't a weak link on defense at all, that was Rob Dillingham.
That's all fine and dandy and you can argue last year all you want but he couldn't guard anyone in the summer league and he looks like a 6th grader playing Varsity Ball now. The problem with that is he won't grow for the next 4 years to catch up to the varsity boys.
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Guitarsoup said:

Theoretical Reed makes a ton of sense. He was an absolutely elite shooter, had great team defensive analytics, and could be a secondary creator.

Castle made less sense for the Rockets at the time, because the Rockets biggest need was (and is) shooting to spread the floor. Castle with a poor shot plus Amen with a poor shot plus FVV with a poor shot gets kind of rough.

Houston Reed and Kentucky Reed are two completely different players.


I'm thinking NBA and collegiate players are completely different, and Reed is the same guy facing the former now.
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Guitarsoup said:

TREX01 said:

Great team defensive analytics is code for "couldn't guard Sister Jean"


He also led all of college basketball in steals, steals per game, and steal percentage. He wasn't a weak link on defense at all, that was Rob Dillingham.


That's good preparation because every team head hunts him in the NBA when he's on the court. Steph Curry puts up good numbers for steals too. You gamble when you know teams are going to continually try to abuse you.

Unfortunately Reed combines hide me D with a 31% FG and 100 or so 3 point attempts at 27.5%. Amen Thompson shoots 27.4% and is almost too embarrassed to hoist them.

Reed probably would be too but for the fact that it's supposed to be his strength. He has more years to try to create some Linsanity though.
Silent For Too Long
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He's still a rookie. And he's buried on a very deep depth chart.

Time well tell, but some of you are jumping the gun just a tad.
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texasaggie2015 said:

I'm concerned with Reed but not remotely close to calling him a bust yet.


There aren't many high draft pick's who couldn't even get on the floor their rookie year and turned in to solid players. I can't think of one. Usually you know pretty quick if a guy has got it or not.
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I can't think of many that got so few minutes. Candidly it's a waste to have him on the roster. Should just play in the G league.
Guitarsoup
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1876er said:

texasaggie2015 said:

I'm concerned with Reed but not remotely close to calling him a bust yet.


There aren't many high draft pick's who couldn't even get on the floor their rookie year and turned in to solid players. I can't think of one. Usually you know pretty quick if a guy has got it or not.
A difficulty in this is that you don't often have a team with a top pick be a ~50-win level team with a talented and deep roster like Houston. Most of the time, top picks are going to teams with dog**** rosters, so even if they aren't ready (like Scoot Henderson last year) they get minutes because the team was still not good.

Dyson Daniels was a top 10 pick and was pretty dog**** as a rookie. This year he probably ends up 3rd in the DPOY. Poeltl was like that, too. Sabonis averaged 5.9p and 3.4r on .399/.314 shooting as a rookie, starting most of the season (66 games.) Aaron Gordon was useless as a rookie in Orlando. Reed Sheppard has the same number of games with more than 15 points so far as Giannis had his rookie season. CJ McCollum's rookie year was awful - Reed has more minutes this year than CJ did as a rookie.

It happens. I think we will see it more as more players are 1 and done and coming into the league at 19. But we will also see a lot more quick flame outs.

Reed should definitely be spending most of the season in the GLeague.
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This is pretty incredible.
FrioAg 00
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Anybody want to bet the spurs find a way to blow their current 21 point lead?
Guitarsoup
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FrioAg 00 said:

Anybody want to bet the spurs find a way to blow their current 21 point lead?
Ags #1
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The Original Houston 1836
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OKC in town tonight.
The Thunder have gone 34-6 since the Rockets beat them on Dec 1.

In the last 14 games, OKC has scored
120+ 12 times
130+ 7 times
140+ 3 times
FrioAg 00
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It's @OKC

Would be great to upset them, but I'll be pretty surprised


Also pretty important since there is only 1.5 games between 2nd and 5th right now
Guitarsoup
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OKC is on 2nd night of back to back.

Chet sprained his ankle and was out last night. Isaiah Joe was out as well. Don't know about them tonight.
WES2006AG
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Starting to think the Clips might be regretting trading Shai for Paul George.
AG@RICE
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I think FVV is out for tonight and Sengun (back), Amen (shoulder) and Brooks (knee) are all questionable...

Tough sledding right now.

FrioAg 00
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Dayum - FVV finally came back. He played like 34 minutes and did nothing, but I was hoping it was his "shake the rust off" game

Woods Ag
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Sheppard looks good!

4 points, 5 tip passes

Edit: And then SGA went to work on him. lol that's ok, let him sit in that fire. He'll figure it out.
Woods Ag
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Reeeed! Going for 40 tonight!
The Original Houston 1836
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Nothing like finally getting done with everything, sitting down in front of the TV and seeing Jock Landale out there because Amen, Dilllion, and Alperen are all hurt. Yeesh.
Woods Ag
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The Original Houston 1836 said:

Nothing like finally getting done with everything, sitting down in front of the TV and seeing Jock Landale out there because Amen, Dilllion, and Alperen are all hurt. Yeesh.


Was a competitive game until just a few minutes ago. No one can stop SGA (that's normal). Reed has looked good. He's not a bust, he just doesn't get minutes
The Original Houston 1836
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Thunder have no answer for the three-headed monster of Whitmore, Holliday and Dante.

Rockets are -16 with Reed on the court tonight. Glad he's made some shots and got a couple of steals, but he hasn't exactly arrived.

Woods Ag
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No one has stopped SGA. Holiday got both ankles broke. Idk how he's still out there.
Woods Ag
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We get good looks every time Reed initiates the offense.

Then someone else decides to take a turn and we go cold
fir 5 mins.

Tate needs to be in the g league.
The Original Houston 1836
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Jazz showing the Spurs how you properly tank a game - down 26 and still under 50 points at the 9 minute mark of the third quarter tonight vs the Pistons.
Guitarsoup
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The Original Houston 1836 said:

Jazz showing the Spurs how you properly tank a game - down 26 and still under 50 points at the 9 minute mark of the third quarter tonight vs the Pistons.
More turnovers than FGM
AG@RICE
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The Original Houston 1836 said:

Thunder have no answer for the three-headed monster of Whitmore, Holliday and Dante.

Rockets are -16 with Reed on the court tonight. Glad he's made some shots and got a couple of steals, but he hasn't exactly arrived.



He needs to spend hours watching CP3 film. He simply doesn't understand how to use his body to create space. Being a little guy puts you at a physical disadvantage, but you also get a bit more leeway with the officials to push off and make space. CP3 had that little man physicality in him as a rookie, Reed does not. He is going to have to get grittier and meaner if he wants to last.
Woods Ag
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How many times did he drive, stop and fade away 2pter? And how many layups in traffic tonight?

His problem isn't on the offensive end. The defense I'll agree with a little. He needs to be stronger, but SGA treated both him and Holiday the same tonight. No one can stay in front of him. Reed does have active hands and a knack for getting a hand on ball to poke away much like Amen.

After last night, I just want more minutes. Him and FVV can split minutes for all I care but he needs at least 15m a night minimum and we'll see a solid player develop.

Give him all of Tates minutes, some of FVVs. We can find them.
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TREX01
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If Carroll Dawson was still GM he would extend Reed after tonight
CFTXAG10
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That was a positive takeaway from last night. More of that version of Reed please.
The Original Houston 1836
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TREX01 said:

If Carroll Dawson was still GM he would extend Reed after tonight
Someone remembers Kelvin Cato getting $42 million for a pre-season triple double I see.
FrioAg 00
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Not saying he "arrived", but it sure was a nice step in the right direction

 
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