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This weekend's series at Georgia will now begin with a doubleheader on Saturday 4/5.

Game 1 at 12 PM CT on SECN+
Game 2 at 4 PM CT on ESPN2
Game 3 will remain on Monday at 5 PM CT on SECN

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— Texas A&M Softball (@AggieSoftball) April 4, 2025

2 games on Saturday now

Auburn got their first win 2 to 1 against Kentucky.

Auburn had a very unfortunate situation after getting swept by Miss St opening weekend catching A&M, Texas and Florida the next 3 weeks. I am kind of rooting for them the rest of the way.

They just took the lead on Kentucky in game 2

Would you let the girls go do something fun or stay in on Sunday in Georgia since there's no game due to rain?

Or keep them in Athens doing something fun, or go to Atlanta and check out their world class aquarium? for instance. Lol

Do something fun and indoors. Too long to sit around and stare at the wall

Ag1188 said:

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Would you let the girls go do something fun or stay in on Sunday in Georgia since there's no game due to rain?

Or keep them in Athens doing something fun, or go to Atlanta and check out their world class aquarium? for instance. Lol

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Went to the Chik-Fil-A Bowl in Atlanta and watched JFF kick butt and we went to Aquarium and the Coca-Cola museum, very cool. Highly recommend.

Florida and Arkansas with a 24 minute review today

RadCouncil 21 said:

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Florida and Arkansas with a 24 minute review today

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That was nuts.

2 on and no outs, Arkansas batter bunts to catcher and is thrown out at first by a mile. However, the home plate umpire called the play dead almost as soon as the batter leaves the box and heads towards first. Why he did I have no idea, other than he must have thought the ball made contact with the bat or batter while they were still in the batter's box. The ball was fair and didn't even come close to making contact with the batter either in OR out of the box. It was a completely clean and obvious play, just a dumb blown call by the home plate umpire. At that point, since the umpire called dead ball, the batter should have been called back to the plate to continue the AB.

At this point it gets really stupid. Arkansas challenges the call (I don't even know what they challenged or why, since the result of the umpire's call actually went in Arkansas' favor). It shouldn't been a reviewable play since ump called dead ball. Everything after that isn't reviewable.

Birmingham actually reviews the play and bizarrely awards the batter first base. So that's the next dumb call in the sequence of stupid calls.

Somehow, and I didn't know this was a thing that can happen, Florida protested the ruling and it goes back to Birmingham, where the office and the field crew all huddle with their NCAA rule books and they can't figure out what to do. More stupidity.

Finally, they actually put in a call to the NCAA home office to figure out what to do, and 20 minutes or so later everyone just throws up their hands and awards the batter first base. As soon as that happens the Florida coach goes ballistic and gets tossed from the game.

Just a wierd sequence of really bad calls by supposed professionals that screwed Florida. I guess in the end Karma wins out because Florida walked it off with a grand slam.

What inning did this happen? I want to go back watch that

Wholly cow, that is crazy. Just plain stupidity.

Boozer92 said:

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What inning did this happen? I want to go back watch that

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Top of the 8th.

Maybe you can make sense out of it. I couldn't

Wrong thread

I can't say I have ever seen anything like this. So the umpire rules the ball hit the batter/runner out of the box and called dead ball. Video overturned and said it did not hit her. The rule doesn't seem to have a "do over" option. In this situation the umpire has to decide where to place the runners. Apparently placing her back in the batters box is not an option. So they place her on first.

This rule needs review and a quick change. Should be a no pitch and the batter returns to the box. Or possibly change rule on the ball hitting the batter to a delayed dead ball. That way Florida would have had the option to take the result of the play or the dead ball. Same that happens with timing violations, illegal pitches and obstruction

Boozer92 said:

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I can't say I have ever seen anything like this. So the umpire rules the ball hit the batter/runner out of the box and called dead ball. Video overturned and said it did not hit her. The rule doesn't seem to have a "do over" option. In this situation the umpire has to decide where to place the runners. Apparently placing her back in the batters box is not an option. So they place her on first.

This rule needs review and a quick change. Should be a no pitch and the batter returns to the box. Or possibly change rule on the ball hitting the batter to a delayed dead ball. That way Florida would have had the option to take the result of the play or the dead ball. Same that happens with timing violations, illegal pitches and obstruction

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OK… what I didn't see was whether or not the umpire called the batter out. If he ruled the ball hit her out of the box then she's out. That would explain why Arkansas challenged it. But all I saw was that he ruled it a dead ball, so I thought maybe he thought the ball hit her in the box.

He called dead ball and called her out.

What I can't find in the rules is how that play was reviewable.

Contact out of the box is reviewable but is a delayed dead ball. In general dead ball plays are not reviewable. For example a ball called foul can only be reviewed if it leaves the field. Any ball called fair can be reviewed and changed to foul. So either this should have been a delayed dead ball or not reviewable. I have read the replay rules over and over again. The dead ball runner placement I can find but not the original challenge. Without having the full rulebook I may be wrong on that but I think this was a mistake by the umpire one way or the other which led to the additional problems

Boozer92 said:

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He called dead ball and called her out.

What I can't find in the rules is how that play was reviewable.

Contact out of the box is reviewable but is a delayed dead ball. In general dead ball plays are not reviewable. For example a ball called foul can only be reviewed if it leaves the field. Any ball called fair can be reviewed and changed to foul. So either this should have been a delayed dead ball or not reviewable. I have read the replay rules over and over again. The dead ball runner placement I can find but not the original challenge. Without having the full rulebook I may be wrong on that but I think this was a mistake by the umpire one way or the other which led to the additional problems

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That explains why Arkansas challenged it. I missed the call being out originally because I was shuffling around between games.

It still raises the question as to why it was challenged by Arkansas, as she was out at first. Unless the Arkansas staff knew that the runner would eventually be placed on first somehow. If so, kudos to them.

Why are we not playing today? Sorry / is there a reason or was it just scheduled this way as a day off?

Projected bad weather. Today's game was played yesterday

Back to #1 in RPI for now

This was in the College Softball sub on Reddit this afternoon.

Top SEC pitcher usage

This is a list of the most-used pitchers for each team in the SEC and what percentage of innings they were pitching so far this year.

It tells a few stories. For Florida, it has to do with injuries to Rothrock. For Kentucky, I believe they've just started to lean on Haendiges more as the season went on. For Auburn, they've had to really find ways to have Geurin in nearly every game while keeping her inning count down.


1. Raelin Chaffin (Mississippi State) --- 47.4%
2. SJ Guerin (Auburn) ---46.4%
3. Karlyn Pickens (Tennessee)---45.1%
4. Miali Guachino (Ole Miss)--- 44.9%
5. Teagan Kavan (Texas)---43.9%
6. Sydney Berzon (LSU)---41.9%
7. Marissa McCann (Missouri)--- 41.2%
8. Jocelyn Briski (Alabama)--- 39.6%
9. Robyn Herron (Arkansas)--- 39.3%
10. Randi Roelling (Georgia)--- 39.0%
11. Jori Heard (S Carolina)--- 38.5%
12. Emiley Kennedy (Texas A&M)--- 37.0%
13. Sam Landry (Oklahoma)---36.0%
14. Sarah Haendiges (Kentucky)--- 27.8%
15. Ava Brown (Florida)--- 25.3%

I am somewhat surprised with the depth in Austin that they have relied so heavily on Kavan

Boozer92 said:

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I am somewhat surprised with the depth in Austin that they have relied so heavily on Kavan

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Their other pitchers have appeared overrated. Kavan even lost to Miss St.

Current SEC Softball Standings

Texas 10-2
OU 9-3
Texas A&M 8-3
LSU 9-4
Florida 7-5
Tennessee 7-5
Miss St 7-5
Arkansas 8-7
S Carolina 6-6
Kentucky 6-9
Alabama 5-7
Georgia 4-10
Missouri 2-10
Auburn 2-13

This team can play with anyone, the sky is the limit

SEC Softball Weekend

Texas (37-3, 10-2) at Missouri (20-21, 2-10)
W 8-0(5), W 4-3, W 3-1(8)

OU (34-3, 9-3)
Vs St Thomas W 12-4(5), vs UCF W 6-0, UCF Cancelled

Texas A&M (34-5, 8-3) at Georgia(25-14, 4-10)
W 8-0(6), W 12-5, Mon 6pm SEC Network

LSU (34-5, 8-4) vs Alabama (28-15, 5-7)
W 8-0(5), W 2-1, L 5-8

Florida (34-8, 7-5) vs Arkansas (28-8, 8-7)
L 1-4, W 10-7(9), L 5-9

Tennessee (32-8, 7-5) vs Miss St (31-10, 7-5)
W 8-0, L 4-12, W 8-0

S Carolina (30-8, 6-6) vs Ole Miss (29-9, 6-6)
W 1-0(8), L 1-2, W 4-2

Kentucky (23-17, 6-9) at Auburn (24-15, 2-13)
L 2-1, W 4-3, L 2-1

it will be interesting to keep tabs on Pickens (UT) & Kavan (tu) to see how they fare the last half of SEC conference play with the # of innings pitched.

Belton Ag said:

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Boozer92 said:

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He called dead ball and called her out.

What I can't find in the rules is how that play was reviewable.

Contact out of the box is reviewable but is a delayed dead ball. In general dead ball plays are not reviewable. For example a ball called foul can only be reviewed if it leaves the field. Any ball called fair can be reviewed and changed to foul. So either this should have been a delayed dead ball or not reviewable. I have read the replay rules over and over again. The dead ball runner placement I can find but not the original challenge. Without having the full rulebook I may be wrong on that but I think this was a mistake by the umpire one way or the other which led to the additional problems

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That explains why Arkansas challenged it. I missed the call being out originally because I was shuffling around between games.

It still raises the question as to why it was challenged by Arkansas, as she was out at first. Unless the Arkansas staff knew that the runner would eventually be placed on first somehow. If so, kudos to them.

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I finally got to watch it. Part of the reason for the delay is it wasn't just a review, Florida protested the call after the runner was placed on first.

The rule needs to be changed if placing the runner on first was the correct ruling.

Edit to add: The color commentator read the review rules (about 2:25:05 into the On Demand video, the play happens about 2:11:08) and they say the umpire should use their judgement in placing runners if a call is overturned. Seems to me "no harm, no foul", runner is out at first should have been easy.

Mid-week Softball in the SEC

Tuesday
UT Martin @ Ol' Miss 5pm (all times CT)

Wednesday
UAB @ Auburn 3:30pm
Marshall @ Kentucky 5pm
Charleston Southern @ USC 5pm
Florida @ Stetson 5pm
SC Upstate @ Georgia 5pm
Texas State @ tu 6pm
Southern Illinois @ Mizzou 6pm
Louisiana Tech @ LSU 6pm
UAB @ Auburn 6pm (game 2 of a DH)
Oklahoma @ Oklahoma St 7pm

That can only happen if they change that to a delayed dead ball. Currently that out never happened because the play was immediately dead.

Of course everyone saw the rest of the play happen so that causes problems

How late can softball start a game today? Or has the game been called off. Looks like rain till after 7 pm. Correction, that would be 6 pm CST.

Boozer92 said:

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That can only happen if they change that to a delayed dead ball. Currently that out never happened because the play was immediately dead.

Of course everyone saw the rest of the play happen so that causes problems

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How does the batter/runner (or either runner) advance after the ball is dead?

The rule the commentator quoted didn't mention a dead ball. It just said if a call is overturned the umpires can use their judgment to place the runners.

Like I said, if the rules don't allow them to make that play right, they need to be changed. Putting the batter on first was the most unfair result possible.

jgriffith73 said:

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How late can softball start a game today? Or has the game been called off. Looks like rain till after 7 pm. Correction, that would be 6 pm CST.

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They gave a start time, I'm hopeful that means they see it clearing and they think they will be able to start then.

Oregon is so overrated! Glad to see LMU do well.

Boozer92 said:

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That can only happen if they change that to a delayed dead ball. Currently that out never happened because the play was immediately dead.

Of course everyone saw the rest of the play happen so that causes problems

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Kind of a follow up on my other post. What would happen to the runners if the ball had in fact hit the batter/runner outside the box? Would they have been returned to 1st and 2nd, or allowed to advance?

If batter is out of the box and the ball hits them they are out. Dead ball and runners return to previous base.