***** Official Trump 47 Admin Court Battles *****

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Aggie Jurist
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ACB is your typical law professor - and I wouldn't hire any of my law professors to handle a traffic ticket.

The next two (possibly 3) appointments may be the most consequential in US history. Please - no more Harvard or Yale grads and NO law professors.
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The Supreme Court on Wednesday denied the Trump administration's request to block a lower court's order for the administration to pay nearly $2 billion in foreign aid money, delivering a near-term reprieve to international aid groups and contractors seeking payment for previously completed projects.

As I understand it, this SCOTUS ruling was for projects already "completed" , not for pending projects.

Trump can always ask for a refund.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/scotus-rules-nearly-2-billion-frozen-usaid-payments
aggiehawg
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doubledog said:

As I understand it, this SCOTUS ruling was for contracts already "fulfilled" , not for pending contracts.
We cannot know that for sure, yet. Very limited proceedings in the lower court. Point remains, Court of Claims case for damages, if for work previously completed. But the lower court just swept that under the rug, the fact they don't have jurisdiction.
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Aggie Jurist said:

ACB is your typical law professor - and I wouldn't hire any of my law professors to handle a traffic ticket.

The next two (possibly 3) appointments may be the most consequential in US history. Please - no more Harvard or Yale grads and NO law professors.
jja79
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Is Trump appealing the NY conviction?
Stat Monitor Repairman
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How big of a poison pill was John Roberts?

and;

How compromised is John Roberts?
SA68AG
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Stat Monitor Repairman said:

How big of a poison pill was John Roberts?

and;

How compromised is John Roberts?
If you're wondering why the Epstein files haven't been released ....?
aggiehawg
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doubledog said:

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The Supreme Court on Wednesday denied the Trump administration's request to block a lower court's order for the administration to pay nearly $2 billion in foreign aid money, delivering a near-term reprieve to international aid groups and contractors seeking payment for previously completed projects.

As I understand it, this SCOTUS ruling was for projects already "completed" , not for pending projects.

Trump can always ask for a refund.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/scotus-rules-nearly-2-billion-frozen-usaid-payments
And that is what the bond is for. Yet the lower court has not insisted the plaintiffs post a sufficient one.
SA68AG
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According to Jonathan Turley it's not over yet.

https://jonathanturley.org/2025/03/05/down-but-not-out-supreme-court-rules-5-4-against-the-administration-over-hold-on-2-billion-in-usaid-funds/

aggiehawg
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From Turley, supra:
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The key here is that this was a controversial move to review a TRO, which is generally not reviewable. What is clear is that there are four justices who were still prepared to do so and would obviously be likely to grant review in the next round.

That next round would come after the hearing on the preliminary injunction, which is scheduled for March 6th.

It can then be appealed to these awaiting justices. Only four are needed to grant review, so you do the math.
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Just to recap:

Review a TRO, which is generally not reviewable; YES!

Review of cases where the justice system has been weaponized to jail political opponents and subvert the will of the American people; NO!

So if you synthesize these cases it's clear that the USSC's priority lies in furtherance of continuing the decade long deep state battle against Donald Trump.

The real issue now is that we've got an entire branch of government made up of lifetime political appointees, the majority of which have been co-opted and compromised by deep state interests.
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I find it humorous...we still call it a Justice System. What a misnomer.
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Q: When is a supersedeas bond required and, when is a supersedeas bond sufficient?

A: It's contingent on whether Donald Trump is involved in the case, and also which side he's on.
Logos Stick
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ship says the payments will be limited to the specific plaintiffs in this case, not the whole $2b:

jacketman03
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aggiehawg said:

doubledog said:

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The Supreme Court on Wednesday denied the Trump administration's request to block a lower court's order for the administration to pay nearly $2 billion in foreign aid money, delivering a near-term reprieve to international aid groups and contractors seeking payment for previously completed projects.

As I understand it, this SCOTUS ruling was for projects already "completed" , not for pending projects.

Trump can always ask for a refund.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/scotus-rules-nearly-2-billion-frozen-usaid-payments
And that is what the bond is for. Yet the lower court has not insisted the plaintiffs post a sufficient one.


Why would the court make the party that's seeking to enforce an order pay a bond?
Ellis Wyatt
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jacketman03 said:

aggiehawg said:

doubledog said:



As I understand it, this SCOTUS ruling was for projects already "completed" , not for pending projects.

Trump can always ask for a refund.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/scotus-rules-nearly-2-billion-frozen-usaid-payments
And that is what the bond is for. Yet the lower court has not insisted the plaintiffs post a sufficient one.


Why would the court make the party that's seeking to enforce an order pay a bond?
a. the plaintiffs can lose on appeal. Then where is the money?
b. This court has no legal basis for making this order. It doesn't even have jurisdiction.
jacketman03
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Ellis Wyatt said:

jacketman03 said:

aggiehawg said:

doubledog said:



As I understand it, this SCOTUS ruling was for projects already "completed" , not for pending projects.

Trump can always ask for a refund.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/scotus-rules-nearly-2-billion-frozen-usaid-payments
And that is what the bond is for. Yet the lower court has not insisted the plaintiffs post a sufficient one.


Why would the court make the party that's seeking to enforce an order pay a bond?
a. the plaintiffs can lose on appeal. Then where is the money?
b. This court has no legal basis for making this order. It doesn't even have jurisdiction.


Okay, but the point of a supersedeas bond is to allow the appealing party to delay payment pending the appeal. So why would the party that's not appealing be required to pay one?
Stat Monitor Repairman
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Recall that it took the USSC 68-days to decide that it was unconstitutional for the state of Colorado to remove Donald Trump from the ballot.

Trumps only been president for 44-days and we've got our first SC ruling.

Wise Latina has beaten chronic exhaustion and the court operating at lighting speed!

They've shaken off the cobwebs and operating at peak efficiency now.
will25u
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Im Gipper
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Stat Monitor Repairman said:

Recall that it took the USSC 68-days to decide that it was unconstitutional for the state of Colorado to remove Donald Trump from the ballot.

Trumps only been president for 44-days and we've got our first SC ruling.

Wise Latina has beaten chronic exhaustion and the court operating at lighting speed!

They've shaken off the cobwebs and operating at peak efficiency now.


You do know one was a ruling on the merits, don't you?




I'm Gipper
will25u
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nortex97
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The Govt will surely appeal any subsequent order that directs it to pay parties who are not before the Court.

So, don't read more into the Order than is there.

Yes, it would have been nice for the Court to simply vacate the TRO. But that would not have solved the problem. As the Order notes, the Preliminary Injunction proceedings are ongoing.

The briefing on that is complete and a hearing was supposed to take place yesterday. I expect Judge Ali will now hold that hearing since his TRO expires on 3/10 -- 5 days.

The jurisdictional issues are raised in the briefing so Judge Ali is going have to confront them as part of any decision he makes.

None of that was before the SCOTUS in a properly briefed form.

Roberts always prefers regular order. He stepped in because the order to pay by 11:59 that night was the problem.

The other issues can all be dealt with in regular order -- let Judge Ali enter his TRO, the Govt appeals the TRO to the Circuit Court, and then the case gets to SCOTUS on the merits.

This is RE the Roberts-ACB SCOTUS wimp-out today about paying for past performance via USAID.
Logos Stick
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Dellinger back to being fired again.

Patentmike
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jacketman03 said:

Ellis Wyatt said:

jacketman03 said:

aggiehawg said:

doubledog said:



As I understand it, this SCOTUS ruling was for projects already "completed" , not for pending projects.

Trump can always ask for a refund.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/scotus-rules-nearly-2-billion-frozen-usaid-payments
And that is what the bond is for. Yet the lower court has not insisted the plaintiffs post a sufficient one.


Why would the court make the party that's seeking to enforce an order pay a bond?
a. the plaintiffs can lose on appeal. Then where is the money?
b. This court has no legal basis for making this order. It doesn't even have jurisdiction.


Okay, but the point of a supersedeas bond is to allow the appealing party to delay payment pending the appeal. So why would the party that's not appealing be required to pay one?
The Rules require a bond by the party receiving a TRO or Temporary Injunction. If the Court grants the temporary order and the plaintiff ultimately loses, the enjoined party can collect on the bond to recover the losses caused by that temporary order.

Basically, it's insurance to protect the defendant from an inappropriate tro or ti.
PatentMike, J.D.
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MS Molecular Virology


jacketman03
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Patentmike said:

jacketman03 said:

Ellis Wyatt said:

jacketman03 said:

aggiehawg said:

doubledog said:



As I understand it, this SCOTUS ruling was for projects already "completed" , not for pending projects.

Trump can always ask for a refund.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/scotus-rules-nearly-2-billion-frozen-usaid-payments
And that is what the bond is for. Yet the lower court has not insisted the plaintiffs post a sufficient one.


Why would the court make the party that's seeking to enforce an order pay a bond?
a. the plaintiffs can lose on appeal. Then where is the money?
b. This court has no legal basis for making this order. It doesn't even have jurisdiction.


Okay, but the point of a supersedeas bond is to allow the appealing party to delay payment pending the appeal. So why would the party that's not appealing be required to pay one?
The Rules require a bond by the party receiving a TRO or Temporary Injunction. If the Court grants the temporary order and the plaintiff ultimately loses, the enjoined party can collect on the bond to recover the losses caused by that temporary order.

Basically, it's insurance to protect the defendant from an inappropriate tro or ti.


Oh my, now I feel dumb, I saw somebody say supersedeas and I bit on that instead of the TRO part.

Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa.
will25u
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aggiehawg
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A federal watchdog for government workers is throwing in the towel in his legal fight against President Donald Trump's attempt to fire him.

A day after a federal appeals court panel allowed Trump to proceed with his plan to remove Special Counsel Hampton Dellinger, Dellinger issued a statement saying he is dropping his lawsuit challenging his dismissal.
LINK

Buh-bye.
Ag with kids
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will25u said:


Looks like this little order is heading towards File 13...
aggiehawg
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Finally, some sanity.

Stat Monitor Repairman
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Im Gipper said:

Stat Monitor Repairman said:

Recall that it took the USSC 68-days to decide that it was unconstitutional for the state of Colorado to remove Donald Trump from the ballot.

Trumps only been president for 44-days and we've got our first SC ruling.

Wise Latina has beaten chronic exhaustion and the court operating at lighting speed!

They've shaken off the cobwebs and operating at peak efficiency now.

You do know one was a ruling on the merits, don't you?



Yes. It's clear that extraordinary measures are contingent on Donald Trump's involvement in the case.

We seeing a spilt in the justice system that future scholars will have to contend with. British common law to present, then a fork where the Trump cases split off.

Im Gipper
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Yes. It's clear that extraordinary measures are contingent on Donald Trump's involvement in the case.


That's silly. SCOTUS acts with "extraordinary measure" on applications for stays all the time.


Of course you were the one who kept telling us Trump was going to jail. I kept telling you how wrong you were. History repeats! lol

I'm Gipper
aggiehawg
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We seeing a spilt in the justice system that future scholars will have to contend with. British common law to present, then a fork where the Trump cases split off.
I really don't think many of the Trump cases will end up having precedential value for very long, if at all. They will be viewed as an aberration and distinguishable on that basis alone.
Im Gipper
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Well said!

That poster loves to make outlandish statements. He trolls a lot.

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Logos Stick
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Dellinger calls it quits

FireAg
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So does this mean the 6,000 USAID leaches are still fired too?
 
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