***** Official Trump 47 Admin Court Battles *****

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In reply to will25u • 9:33a, 7/16/25
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How can they not be required to recuse themselves at this point? They should not be allowed to hear any further cases against Trump.
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11:18a, 7/17/25
"We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution."

- Abraham Lincoln
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In reply to will25u • 11:27a, 7/17/25
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So he will have to go back to SCOTUS for relief. So dumb.
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In reply to ThunderCougarFalconBird • 11:53a, 7/17/25
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txags92 said:
We fixed the keg said:
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... and let Jackson submit her dissent later.


Is she still coloring in the exhibits? Or did Roberts hide her crayons?
they got her some circles of paper and safety pencils.


Then instruct her to color the corners?
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11:56a, 7/17/25


Clay goes hard on this poor lady bless-her-heart. Makes a good point here.
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5:28p, 7/17/25
"We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution."

- Abraham Lincoln
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5:29p, 7/17/25
"We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution."

- Abraham Lincoln
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5:43p, 7/17/25
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Chief Justice Roberts should resign. He is not an effective leader of the judiciary. Impeach him for being as dumb as KJB in regards to the US Constitution.
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5:45p, 7/17/25
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Obama-Biden judges are just out of control, or, more properly are enemies of the republic and it's absurd impeachment proceedings have not yet begun.
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In reply to nortex97 • 5:49p, 7/17/25
Tell me you didn't read the thread without telling me.
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5:50p, 7/17/25

"We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution."

- Abraham Lincoln
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In reply to will25u • 6:52p, 7/17/25
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Well at least one judge is following procedure.
Pro College Station Convention Center
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In reply to techno-ag • 7:09p, 7/17/25
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Probably not. He probably called plaintiffs counsel into chambers and helped them redraft their petition so he can rule appropriately.
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In reply to flown-the-coop • 7:17p, 7/17/25
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9:22a, 7/18/25
Thread. Pretty interesting theory that SCOTUS will grant certiorari before judgment since Humphrey's is controlling and only SCOTUS can revisit.


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2:13p, 7/18/25
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In reply to will25u • 2:26p, 7/18/25
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Notice the complaint revolves around state-ACA exchanges (Obamacare subsidized bs). Another outcome of the partisan monstrosity that Obamacare is/was, is that it makes states perceive they have rights to federal payments for things the federal government (legislature) doesn't want to appropriate funds for.

Progressivism…the friendly word for socialism, always disempowers states/local voters. The ultimate historical lion of the history that is American progressivism is the notorious bigot Woodrow Wilson. His legacy impacted healthcare, and education horribly as well. A true Jimmy Carter/Margaret Sanger of his time.

But, ultimately it is the court system they prize the most. Just yesterday they stormed out of the judiciary committee, over not being allowed to throw more tantrums.
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In reply to will25u • 3:47p, 7/18/25
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Waste of time
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In reply to will25u • 4:29p, 7/18/25
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will25u said:
Thread. Pretty interesting theory that SCOTUS will grant certiorari before judgment since Humphrey's is controlling and only SCOTUS can revisit.




Can someone please explain this one? Thanks
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In reply to AgEngineer72 • 5:27p, 7/18/25
If you read the thread, she does a good job.

TLDR; She thinks SCOTUS will grab the case from appellate because appellate is bound by Humphreys which says Trump can't fire this person. Only SCOTUS can revisit Humphreys since the ruling came from them. And if they stay the lower courts ruling that the person can't be fired, then there is a good chance they will override Humphreys.

"We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution."

- Abraham Lincoln
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In reply to will25u • 6:09p, 7/18/25
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will25u said:
If you read the thread, she does a good job.

TLDR; She thinks SCOTUS will grab the case from appellate because appellate is bound by Humphreys which says Trump can fire this person. Only SCOTUS can revisit Humphreys since the ruling came from them. And if they stay the lower courts ruling that the person can't be fired, then there is a good chance they will override Humphreys.



I think you meant to say Humphrey's says that Trump cannot fire this person, right? Maybe I have it backwards...
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In reply to dvldog • 6:23p, 7/18/25
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will25u said:
If you read the thread, she does a good job.

TLDR; She thinks SCOTUS will grab the case from appellate because appellate is bound by Humphreys which says Trump can fire this person. Only SCOTUS can revisit Humphreys since the ruling came from them. And if they stay the lower courts ruling that the person can't be fired, then there is a good chance they will override Humphreys.



I think you meant to say Humphrey's says that Trump cannot fire this person, right? Maybe I have it backwards...


Yes, CAN'T. I fixed it. Sorry.
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In reply to will25u • 6:52p, 7/18/25
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SCOTUS previously signaled Humphrey's is near death. This should be the final blow. Again, we don't have a 4th branch.
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8:53p, 7/18/25
"We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution."

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9:04p, 7/18/25
"We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution."

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10:01p, 7/18/25



Also...

"We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution."

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In reply to will25u • 11:34p, 7/18/25
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will25u said:

The ICC is the INTERNATIONAL Criminal Court.

So, now, foreign policy is not just the function of the executive branch...ANYONE can do it...
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In reply to will25u • 8:22a, 7/19/25
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will25u said:
If you read the thread, she does a good job.

TLDR; She thinks SCOTUS will grab the case from appellate because appellate is bound by Humphreys which says Trump can't fire this person. Only SCOTUS can revisit Humphreys since the ruling came from them. And if they stay the lower courts ruling that the person can't be fired, then there is a good chance they will override Humphreys.



Thanks- your explanation helps. I did read his thread, what little there was, but I didn't and don't understand what "Humphreys" refers to. But your explanation helped a lot by clarifying the potential court actions. I really appreciate those of you who are explaining things as this unfolds Those of us who are not lawyers can follow generally but the added information really fills in the gaps.
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9:10a, 7/19/25
So has SCOTUS not ruled on Humphries?
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In reply to Deerdude • 9:18a, 7/19/25
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Not yet.
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In reply to AgEngineer72 • 9:43a, 7/19/25
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will25u said:
If you read the thread, she does a good job.

TLDR; She thinks SCOTUS will grab the case from appellate because appellate is bound by Humphreys which says Trump can't fire this person. Only SCOTUS can revisit Humphreys since the ruling came from them. And if they stay the lower courts ruling that the person can't be fired, then there is a good chance they will override Humphreys.



Thanks- your explanation helps. I did read his thread, what little there was, but I didn't and don't understand what "Humphreys" refers to. But your explanation helped a lot by clarifying the potential court actions. I really appreciate those of you who are explaining things as this unfolds Those of us who are not lawyers can follow generally but the added information really fills in the gaps.


Oversimplifying a bit I am sure, but basically Humphrey's was a 1935 case where SCOTUS ruled that the president did not have the power to fire leadership of quasi independent federal regulatory agencies setup by congress (like the FCC) without cause. So the appellate courts are not in a position to overrule that precedent. If the SCOTUS is interested in potentially overturning that precedent, they may pick up the case directly from the district court instead of waiting for it to go through the apellate process.
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In reply to txags92 • 9:50a, 7/19/25
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Oversimplifying a bit I am sure, but basically Humphrey's was a 1935 case that ruled that the president did not have the power to fire leadership of quasi independent federal regulatory agencies setup by congress (like the FCC) without cause. So the appellate courts are not in a position to overrule that precedent. If the SCOTUS is interested in potentially overturning that precedent, they may pick up the case directly from the district court instead of waiting for it to go through the apellate process.

The end result of Humphrey's Executor was a monetary damage award as Humphrey had died during the appellate process. So there is some distinction there. Dicta in Humphrey's Executor tends to support the notion the President lacks that power but that was not the actual holding that reinstatement and not damages for a wrongful termination is the exclusive remedy available.

So we'll see which direction SCOTUS takes.
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10:11a, 7/19/25
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Amy Howe is admittedly (by me) a leftist but I think she is right that the 'emergency docket' is not overflowing right now. SCOTUS has kept it in check, to a large degree.
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On Tuesday, Justice Sonia Sotomayor denied a bid by an Ecuadorian national to stave off his extradition to that country to face sexual abuse charges. One day earlier, the full court over a dissent by the three Democratic appointees cleared the way for the Trump administration to substantially reduce the size of the Department of Education. Both of those actions on the court's emergency docket, sometimes known as the "shadow docket," were significant in their own right. But the court's orders also resolved the major pending requests on the emergency docket for the court's 2024-25 term. (Although the Supreme Court's new term does not officially begin until the first Monday in October, the court begins to assign docket numbers bearing the new term's year in July.)

This means that only three major cases are currently pending on the emergency docket, all for the 2025-26 term. And only one of those a July 2 request to be able to remove three members of the Consumer Product Safety Commission appointed by then-President Joe Biden came from the Trump administration. That's a sharp drop from earlier this year, when (even counting the three nearly identical requests to partially block orders that barred the Trump administration from ending birthright citizenship as a single application) the Trump administration filed 18 requests for relief between late January, when President Donald Trump took office, and the end of June. Indeed, at several points in May, as many as six requests for relief from the Trump administration were pending before the court at any one time.

Is this only a temporary lull in the emergency docket? It's hard to say, but it seems likely. On the one hand, virtually all of the requests for emergency relief between late January and late June stemmed from the many executive orders and actions that followed soon after Trump's inauguration, which in turn could have led to a surge in such requests. On the other hand, the court did not always act as quickly on the Trump administration's requests as the government would have liked. The justices took nearly six weeks, for example, before granting the Trump administration's request to remove members of the National Labor Relations Board and the Merit Systems Protection Board, which suggests that the sheer number of cases pending at any particular time can also be attributed to the justices, not just the Trump administration. In other words, the justices will act on their own timeframe.

More at the link.
Not directly related to '47 legal battles, but more on the Biden administration's legal shenanigans/treason to go after peaceful Americans who did not support…them politically.
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10:05p, 7/19/25

"We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution."

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In reply to will25u • 3:58a, 7/20/25
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Pfffft, yeah, habeas corpus for a US district court judge over Venezuelans in Venezuela. Of all the Biden judges in the known universe, only KBJ is rock-stupid enough to entertain that, I think.
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