******* Official Cowboys Off-Season Thread 2025 *******

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texagbeliever
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In reply to Macarthur • 2:08p, 4/27/25
Look at Jeudy. The guy was drafted with the 15th overall pick. Bust. Then he has 6 games with a qb who can throw the ball downfield and he has absolute monster games.

Not saying Mingo is as good as Jeudy but the QB impacts production
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In reply to texagbeliever • 2:18p, 4/27/25
texagbeliever said:
Look at Jeudy. The guy was drafted with the 15th overall pick. Bust. Then he has 6 games with a qb who can throw the ball downfield and he has absolute monster games.

Not saying Mingo is as good as Jeudy but the QB impacts production


Jeudy was thought to be the best route runner coming out since Amari Cooper. Mingo is physical receiver that has relied on his size & speed to get open in college. Hopefully he puts it together.
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In reply to Tksymm7 • 8:31p, 4/27/25
Tksymm7 said:
While we usually do this sort of thing, I think Revel is a little different than what we've seen in the past. For starters he tore his ACL only and had surgery in October. ACL's aren't what they use to be and guys come back 100% more times than not. Plus his surgery was done by our team doctor and i he should be mostly ready for the season. Secondly, Revel was a first round lock and likely a top 20ish pick if he didn't get hurt. He was stupid good value in the 3rd.
Heard the same thing about Jaylon Smith and Jonathon Brooks... lol. Revel is super talented but even if healthy he has a huge jump in competition from ECU. But I think he's a great value where they got him and I'll be rooting for the kid.

By the way, did anyone else watch Phil Mafah's highlights and see a bigger / slower DeMarco Murray?
He's a smooth strider... sees the hole, cuts and goes... shifty enough to make defenders miss in the open field... big enough to keep moving after contact.


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In reply to PooDoo • 6:35a, 4/28/25
I'm a big fan of Mafah. Very good back.
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In reply to PooDoo • 7:19a, 4/28/25
The Jaylon Smith example always annoys me when it is used. The guy made the pro bowl as a starting linebacker in the NFL two years after suffering an injury that most humans struggle to walk normally after. Normal people literally can't even jog and walk with a limp the rest of their lives after what he had, and this guy was chasing down Alvin Kamara on a full open field sprint within 30 months.

Jaylon Smith was a medical/sports miracle
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In reply to Infection_Ag11 • 7:38a, 4/28/25
Infection_Ag11 said:
The Jaylon Smith example always annoys me when it is used. The guy made the pro bowl as a starting linebacker in the NFL two years after suffering an injury that most humans struggle to walk normally after. Normal people literally can't even jog and walk with a limp the rest of their lives after what he had, and this guy was chasing down Alvin Kamara on a full open field sprint within 30 months.

Jaylon Smith was a medical/sports miracle
Agreed. I think what rubbed a lot of people the wrong way was his attitude, "swagger" if you will, and how we gave him a huge contract that didn't pan out.
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In reply to Infection_Ag11 • 8:54a, 4/28/25
Infection_Ag11 said:
The Jaylon Smith example always annoys me when it is used. The guy made the pro bowl as a starting linebacker in the NFL two years after suffering an injury that most humans struggle to walk normally after. Normal people literally can't even jog and walk with a limp the rest of their lives after what he had, and this guy was chasing down Alvin Kamara on a full open field sprint within 30 months.

Jaylon Smith was a medical/sports miracle
That's exactly why Jaylon Smtih is a good example. It took a medical miracle for that 2nd round pick to pay off. Even when it did, we still lost over a year on his cheap contract. It was a bad pick based on the injury and a bad pick based on team building and cap restrictions.

The "good" thing with Revel is that his injury was pretty early last season, and we have all the medical info we could want on him. That doesn't mean he can play worth a damn, but at least he should be playing pretty early in the season
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9:46a, 4/28/25
The Jaylon Smith pick still cracks me up. The ironic part of it all is... Jaylon had a massive insurance injury policy on himself and it paid out big chunks of cash for every round Jaylon fell. He should have been a 5th-7th round pick at best and this would have benefited him financially.

Ultimately, the biggest winner in the Cowboys picking Jaylon in the 2nd was the friggin insurance company!
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10:29a, 4/28/25
I suppose my final thoughts of this draft are... I hope this is a sign of things to come because, on paper, we did extremely well.

We've been so poor in drafting & overall player acquisition the past 2 years and this draft really highlighted that. We got some REALLY GOOD football players, and yet, we spent too much time being upset because we simply didn't have enough picks to fill all the holes.



If Jerry, McClay, & this new coaching staff really want to impress me... make a deal for a legit #2 WR before the season starts and lets roll. We can deal with the RB by committee situation another year, but we need a real deal WR to pair with CD or else we are probably a bottom half offense again.

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12:38p, 4/28/25
Sounds like they tried to get a trade done for Pickens but nothing came out of it.
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3:14p, 4/28/25
I am not giving up on mingo.

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3:31p, 4/28/25
Some smoke of Coop coming back to Dallas.
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In reply to Macarthur • 3:41p, 4/28/25
He's going to have every chance to succeed. He has a good QB with Dak and CD to take some pressure off. Our line better be good with all the draft picks we've spent on it. We'll see. As I said before, I generally don't like highly drafted bust. They tend to have all the talent and none of the self discipline needed to be successful. Hopefully Mingo was just in a bad situation and needed a change of scenery
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In reply to gigem1223 • 3:53p, 4/28/25
gigem1223 said:
Some smoke of Coop coming back to Dallas.
that would be such a dallas move...especially overpaying for him
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In reply to zgolfz85 • 5:28p, 4/28/25
I guess he's a FA? we've got space.
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5:34p, 4/28/25
I like the Cooper move if the price is right. He and Dak have history and Dak needs every edge he can get.
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6:26p, 4/28/25
This is what PFF spits out if you search for the free agent WRs who haven't signed yet:

7 - Amari Cooper (30)
44 - Keenan Allen (33 and looking like he's declining fast)
77 - Diontae Johnson (28) - way too much drama. No thanks.
105 - Elijah Moore (25) - as long as we're collecting former Ole Miss WRs....lol
139 - Tyler Boyd (30)
167 - Nelson Agholor (32)
223 - Robert Woods (33)
244 - Tyler Lockett (32)

So yeah, based on that, if we're going the FA route, you gotta think Amari is the best of what's left.
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In reply to J.P. 03 • 6:43p, 4/28/25
J.P. 03 said:
This is what PFF spits out if you search for the free agent WRs who haven't signed yet:

7 - Amari Cooper (30)
44 - Keenan Allen (33 and looking like he's declining fast)
77 - Diontae Johnson (28) - way too much drama. No thanks.
105 - Elijah Moore (25) - as long as we're collecting former Ole Miss WRs....lol
139 - Tyler Boyd (30)
167 - Nelson Agholor (32)
223 - Robert Woods (33)
244 - Tyler Lockett (32)

So yeah, based on that, if we're going the FA route, you gotta think Amari is the best of what's left.


Lockett signed with the titans….I badly wanted him
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In reply to zgolfz85 • 8:29p, 4/28/25
zgolfz85 said:
J.P. 03 said:
This is what PFF spits out if you search for the free agent WRs who haven't signed yet:

7 - Amari Cooper (30)
44 - Keenan Allen (33 and looking like he's declining fast)
77 - Diontae Johnson (28) - way too much drama. No thanks.
105 - Elijah Moore (25) - as long as we're collecting former Ole Miss WRs....lol
139 - Tyler Boyd (30)
167 - Nelson Agholor (32)
223 - Robert Woods (33)
244 - Tyler Lockett (32)

So yeah, based on that, if we're going the FA route, you gotta think Amari is the best of what's left.


Lockett signed with the titans….I badly wanted him


Agohlor would be a great #3
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In reply to zgolfz85 • 10:40p, 4/28/25
zgolfz85 said:
gigem1223 said:
Some smoke of Coop coming back to Dallas.
that would be such a dallas move...especially overpaying for him


Idk what that means exactly but he'd definitely be an upgrade and as mentioned has a history with Dak. If he's cheap and we had the cap space why not?
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In reply to The Shank Ag • 10:42p, 4/28/25
We don't need a #3. Tolbert and Turpin are just fine. We need a solid #2.
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In reply to Macarthur • 7:46a, 4/29/25
Macarthur said:
I am not giving up on mingo.



Man I hope so... I really do!

I know a couple things. It takes a lot of NFL WR 2-3 years to really figure it out. During Mingo's first two seasons he played with a terrible QB & a back-up QB with a sinking ship coach.

Assuming his attitude and worth ethic are right, he should be much more productive this year.
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In reply to Macarthur • 8:43a, 4/29/25
Macarthur said:
I am not giving up on mingo.

he can clearly get space...just wondering if it's the correct space. some of those routes look pretty strange ha. I'm still bullish on the kid (out of blind hope)
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4:40p, 4/29/25
Best move imo is call a team like , houston or GB who have TONS of receivers and see what they'll take for some of their "odd man out" situations.
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11:08p, 4/29/25
Word is, Jameson Williams could be had from Detroit for a 3rd with one year left on his contract?

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In reply to PooDoo • 6:04a, 4/30/25
PooDoo said:
Word is, Jameson Williams could be had from Detroit for a 3rd with one year left on his contract?



He served a suspension for gambling. I don't know if he has the character traits the staff is looking for.
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In reply to VP at Pierce and Pierce • 6:26a, 4/30/25
The two guys that would likely be available are Williams in Detroit and Pickens in Pittsburgh. Neither are sterling character guys, but this team NEEDS someone else. You'd have to seriously insulate them and hope that being in contract years motivates them to get their act together.
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In reply to rsf0626 • 9:32a, 4/30/25
rsf0626 said:
Best move imo is call a team like , houston or GB who have TONS of receivers and see what they'll take for some of their "odd man out" situations.

They might have a better overall WR corps than we do, but I can guarantee you they don't have an 'odd man out' that is better than Tolbert.

We've got an elite #1, a pretty good Utility guy (Turpin), and 3 or 4 other guys that are average #3 guys. I'm adding a legit #2 type or I'm not adding anybody at all.
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10:43a, 4/30/25
Cooper is technically sound, a pro in work attitude, and has history with Dak, seems like a great fit at #2
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In reply to Agristotle • 10:46a, 4/30/25
It's not great history with Dak though. One of the biggest reasons Dallas kicked him to the curb was because he was never available and that really pissed Dak off.
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In reply to Tksymm7 • 10:53a, 4/30/25
I remember there were some hard feelings, but he needs a job and Dak needs a #2. Rather have him then Pickens, who is half crazy and wants a new mega deal

you know Jerry is watching the Isaiah Bond situation too
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In reply to Agristotle • 10:57a, 4/30/25
I don't disagree, but is Cooper really a No. 2 at this stage of his career? I think he's another No. 3 at best now.
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In reply to Tksymm7 • 11:00a, 4/30/25
Tksymm7 said:
I don't disagree, but is Cooper really a No. 2 at this stage of his career? I think he's another No. 3 at best now.
that's where I am. I'd love to have him back, but at a deep discount
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In reply to zgolfz85 • 11:03a, 4/30/25
If we're going the old receiver route I prefer Keenan Allen. I think he would bring more to a locker room and similar production.
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In reply to Tksymm7 • 11:06a, 4/30/25
Tksymm7 said:
If we're going the old receiver route I prefer Keenan Allen. I think he would bring more to a locker room and similar production.
I'm good with either. I would put keenan over coop too
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