Todd McShay's mock has us taking T Mac
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Hypothetical - what if Warren is there at 12 (unlikely) and by far BPA on the board? Do you take him and worry about the other TEs on the roster later?
TyHolden said:
if Jeanty, McMillan, and Golden there at 12....who does Jerry take? I think he'd have a JFF moment and need to be put in the corner.
Jeanty for sure.
I'm personally in the camp of NOT wanting Tet. Big body WRs that don't play physical don't normally have success in the league. Has issues with press coverage. Not a great route runner and takes plays off. He's not Mike Evans 2.0. If Dallas goes WR at 12 and can't trade down, I'd much rather have Golden. Preference is to trade down in a draft lacking top end talent, but is replete with potential starters/contributors. But considering most evryone else thinks the same, it'll be tough to do unless some dudes fall.
And Henderson is my RB2 but I don't see him being there at 44.. Followed by Hampton/judkins who might be.
cman1494 said:
Hypothetical - what if Warren is there at 12 (unlikely) and by far BPA on the board? Do you take him and worry about the other TEs on the roster later?
I think I'd prefer Warren over Golden, for sure, if that's the question.
I think I'd prefer the corner Johnson over Warren if they're both there.
It's an interesting question.
I agree in principal for sure!shack009 said:cman1494 said:
Hypothetical - what if Warren is there at 12 (unlikely) and by far BPA on the board? Do you take him and worry about the other TEs on the roster later?
I think I'd prefer Warren over Golden, for sure, if that's the question.
I think I'd prefer the corner Johnson over Warren if they're both there.
It's an interesting question.
I just proposed this because it's an interesting situation that would sure make the casual fans have a WTH moment. We don't "need" a TE just like we didn't "need" a LB in 2021 when Parsons fell into our lap. I think if he is far and away BPA you have to take him. His receiving ability would almost be WR2 on the team and you could run lots of 2 and 3 TE sets. Then plan on not extending Ferguson most likely.
Wouldn't be ideal, but I could be talked into it. We aren't one player away from SB contention, so stacking blue chip talent is great.
cman1494 said:
Hypothetical - what if Warren is there at 12 (unlikely) and by far BPA on the board? Do you take him and worry about the other TEs on the roster later?
I think TE is the one position I don't mind getting cute with because, if he really is that good, it takes the pressure off not having to find a plug and play #2 WR.
What scares me is that I keep hearing Bookers name pop up. Again, he might be a GREAT player... I don't know... but we really need young skill position players right now.
Agreed on the skill position piece. I think outside of Lamb, we have tried to scrape the bottom of the barrel with WRs, RBs, and TEs for too long, while our competition keeps adding them as 1st round picks.jr15aggie said:cman1494 said:
Hypothetical - what if Warren is there at 12 (unlikely) and by far BPA on the board? Do you take him and worry about the other TEs on the roster later?
I think TE is the one position I don't mind getting cute with because, if he really is that good, it takes the pressure off not having to find a plug and play #2 WR.
What scares me is that I keep hearing Bookers name pop up. Again, he might be a GREAT player... I don't know... but we really need young skill position players right now.
Yup!
Just going off memory, since CD, we haven't used a #1 or #2 pick at WR. I think the #3 at Tolbert is the highest pick we've used.
And don't get me started about RB. Since Zeke back in 2016, I think a 3rd round for Pollard is the only thing we've done at RB. One 3rd rounder in almost 10 years. Gross!
Just going off memory, since CD, we haven't used a #1 or #2 pick at WR. I think the #3 at Tolbert is the highest pick we've used.
And don't get me started about RB. Since Zeke back in 2016, I think a 3rd round for Pollard is the only thing we've done at RB. One 3rd rounder in almost 10 years. Gross!
cman1494 said:I agree in principal for sure!shack009 said:cman1494 said:
Hypothetical - what if Warren is there at 12 (unlikely) and by far BPA on the board? Do you take him and worry about the other TEs on the roster later?
I think I'd prefer Warren over Golden, for sure, if that's the question.
I think I'd prefer the corner Johnson over Warren if they're both there.
It's an interesting question.
I just proposed this because it's an interesting situation that would sure make the casual fans have a WTH moment. We don't "need" a TE just like we didn't "need" a LB in 2021 when Parsons fell into our lap. I think if he is far and away BPA you have to take him. His receiving ability would almost be WR2 on the team and you could run lots of 2 and 3 TE sets. Then plan on not extending Ferguson most likely.
Wouldn't be ideal, but I could be talked into it. We aren't one player away from SB contention, so stacking blue chip talent is great.
If somehow, Warren is there, I would work the phones like a madman and try to trade down. Especially someone like the Broncos. Some team would be willing to move up for him. Warren would definitely be an upgrade over Ferguson, but like you said, Dallas has more needs to fill, especially on offense. If they are going to take a pass catcher, it needs to be someone that stretches the field and opens up the underneath for CD and whoever the tight end is. Is also why, Aggie bias aside I prefer Golden
IMHO, RB is the top need for Dallas…
Really wish there was a way to trade up for Jeanty…
Really wish there was a way to trade up for Jeanty…
Is that you Jerry?FireAg said:
IMHO, RB is the top need for Dallas…
Really wish there was a way to trade up for Jeanty…
TyHolden said:Is that you Jerry?FireAg said:
IMHO, RB is the top need for Dallas…
Really wish there was a way to trade up for Jeanty…
Philly rode the back of a stud RB to a SB title…
We have nothing worth a damn in the stable…
I think Dallas needs a RB more than a WR…
Do.Not.Take.A.RB.First.
I'd take Warren. He's good enough that he can line up as a WR or in the backfield. And, he'll make Dak happy.
But as usual, I say pick the best lineman available. O or D. Look at Philly's lines! Actually, best O-Linemen or best Defensive player. The corner from tu is a badass.
I'd take Warren. He's good enough that he can line up as a WR or in the backfield. And, he'll make Dak happy.
But as usual, I say pick the best lineman available. O or D. Look at Philly's lines! Actually, best O-Linemen or best Defensive player. The corner from tu is a badass.
They also have a mobile qb and all-pro WRs....FireAg said:TyHolden said:Is that you Jerry?FireAg said:
IMHO, RB is the top need for Dallas…
Really wish there was a way to trade up for Jeanty…
Philly rode the back of a stud RB to a SB title…
We have nothing worth a damn in the stable…
I think Dallas needs a RB more than a WR…
And oh yeah, the #1 defense in the league last year.
You're welcome to your opinion…
TyHolden said:They also have a mobile qb and all-pro WRs....FireAg said:TyHolden said:Is that you Jerry?FireAg said:
IMHO, RB is the top need for Dallas…
Really wish there was a way to trade up for Jeanty…
Philly rode the back of a stud RB to a SB title…
We have nothing worth a damn in the stable…
I think Dallas needs a RB more than a WR…
And oh yeah, the #1 defense in the league last year.
Philly having one of the best o-lines in the NFL was a bigger reason. Their offense was already really good before saquon. It became elite with his addition.
I don't especially devalue taking RB high, especially a talent like Jeanty. He makes Dallas' offense better no doubt. To that, I agree with Fire. I personally think other needs should be addressed first. In fact I'd much rather take a swing at OL in the first over either RB or WR. They're all needs (to say nothing about shoring up the D). Just the dropoff from the top skill players to your day2/3 guys, is much less than the drop from the top OL to your day 2/3 guys.
I don't want to give up the picks it would take to move up to 5 or 6 to get Jeanty (nor Tet). But if Jeanty falls past that, and you only need to move up to say 9 to get ahead of the bears, then I'm ok taking that swing
If we have to give up any of the top 3 picks to move up, that seems like a recipe for disaster. We're not an RB away from winning anything. We were when we drafted Zeke. We got lucky on Dak. But we had WRs and a stacked OL when we did that. No where near that right now.
TyHolden said:
If we have to give up any of the top 3 picks to move up, that seems like a recipe for disaster. We're not an RB away from winning anything. We were when we drafted Zeke. We got lucky on Dak. But we had WRs and a stacked OL when we did that. No where near that right now.
The what-ifs of that season. Dak was a phenomenal rookie and should have been in the NFC Title game if we hadn't gotten Aaron Rogers'd... again!!!
But man... a healthy Romo that season is probably better than his 2007. Might have been really great to see it play out with Romo leading that team and Dak taking over a season or two later. Oh well... it was a really special season either way.
I kinda wish Jerry would do Campbell a solid and gift Micah to the Lions for a ton of picks. At least my second favorite team would have a shot.
Philly already had an elite defense, elite receiver corps, great OLine, and a high-end QB. It made sense for them to make the Saquon move.FireAg said:TyHolden said:Is that you Jerry?FireAg said:
IMHO, RB is the top need for Dallas…
Really wish there was a way to trade up for Jeanty…
Philly rode the back of a stud RB to a SB title…
We have nothing worth a damn in the stable…
I think Dallas needs a RB more than a WR…
Is there a single position group that Dallas has that is great or better? QB, probably, WR corps leaves much to be desired after CD, OLine is middle of the road, and then there are holes all over the defense.
The only scenario it is worthwhile to take a RB in the first is if you have a team that is already built to win.
Dallas should trade down, not up
Listening to various podcasts today... one thing that stood out was that Schotty has been insistent on drafting high character guys. Not necessarily perfect angels, but locker room guys that really love the game and will put in the work.
I've heard 3 names in recent weeks that really stand out as that type of player: Egbuka, Jalon Walker, TreVeyon Henderson
And whataya know, all 3 of those guys come from schools that have year after year success. Shemar Stewart and the Aggies... not so much but here's hoping Elko can change that.
EDIT: Listening to Locked on Cowboys right now and they are basically saying word for word what I just said. They mentioned Walker as well as the other Georgia DE Mykel Wiliams. Right after that they went right into talking about Egbuka.
I've heard 3 names in recent weeks that really stand out as that type of player: Egbuka, Jalon Walker, TreVeyon Henderson
And whataya know, all 3 of those guys come from schools that have year after year success. Shemar Stewart and the Aggies... not so much but here's hoping Elko can change that.
EDIT: Listening to Locked on Cowboys right now and they are basically saying word for word what I just said. They mentioned Walker as well as the other Georgia DE Mykel Wiliams. Right after that they went right into talking about Egbuka.
Trading up is almost always very dumb, unless you are getting a franchise QB. You need as many bites at the apple as possible and as many cheap good players as possible.FireAg said:
IMHO, RB is the top need for Dallas…
Really wish there was a way to trade up for Jeanty…
shack009 said:Trading up is almost always very dumb, unless you are getting a franchise QB. You need as many bites at the apple as possible and as many cheap good players as possible.FireAg said:
IMHO, RB is the top need for Dallas…
Really wish there was a way to trade up for Jeanty…
It's a roster full of cheap good players, and zero at RB…
There will be an RB available in FA/UDFA.
We need to spend draft talent on the future. Not now. Our window closed and our best players on the OL and DL are gone. (Tyron, Zak, Dlaw).
We need to reload in the trenches and be in a position where once Dak is finally done, we can do a Brock Purdy type pick (or Dak, at the time) and be successful because we have a powerful interior.
IMO, our window closed 2 years ago once Dak started running for his life and we couldn't run the ball anymore, consistently.
We need to spend draft talent on the future. Not now. Our window closed and our best players on the OL and DL are gone. (Tyron, Zak, Dlaw).
We need to reload in the trenches and be in a position where once Dak is finally done, we can do a Brock Purdy type pick (or Dak, at the time) and be successful because we have a powerful interior.
IMO, our window closed 2 years ago once Dak started running for his life and we couldn't run the ball anymore, consistently.
I'd say no way a trade up will happen... but Ole' Jerry and his pals at the NFL League office just LOVE to sell jerseys. And a Cowboys Jeanty Jersey would sell sell sell!!!
ChoppinDs40 said:
Our window closed and our best players on the OL and DL are gone. (Tyron, Zak, Dlaw).
I don't see any point in debating this between us fans because this is NOT how the Cowboys see it. They still believe the window "now" because there isn't a thing we can do with Dak's & his contract for the next 2-3 years.
So whether it be right or wrong, it's where we are at and it's not changing until at least the 2027 season. Might as well keep building the team around Dak, CD, and Parsons (assuming we get a deal done).
If we do this, then Dak's career will most certainly end in preseason and Milton will be an all-pro.jr15aggie said:
I'd say no way a trade up will happen... but Ole' Jerry and his pals at the NFL League office just LOVE to sell jerseys. And a Cowboys Jeanty Jersey would sell sell sell!!!
TyHolden said:If we do this, then Dak's career will most certainly end in preseason and Milton will be an all-pro.jr15aggie said:
I'd say no way a trade up will happen... but Ole' Jerry and his pals at the NFL League office just LOVE to sell jerseys. And a Cowboys Jeanty Jersey would sell sell sell!!!
There's a part of me that's wants to see them trade Dak to Cleveland for Newsome then figure out the pick situation then just give the reigns Milton. **** it. Wont happen for many reasons but I'd rather rip the bandaid and go for it, rather than continuing to wallow in mediocrity
Did philly spend a #1 pick for the stud rb?FireAg said:TyHolden said:Is that you Jerry?FireAg said:
IMHO, RB is the top need for Dallas…
Really wish there was a way to trade up for Jeanty…
Philly rode the back of a stud RB to a SB title…
We have nothing worth a damn in the stable…
I think Dallas needs a RB more than a WR…
Philly had all the other offensive pieces....FireAg said:TyHolden said:Is that you Jerry?FireAg said:
IMHO, RB is the top need for Dallas…
Really wish there was a way to trade up for Jeanty…
Philly rode the back of a stud RB to a SB title…
We have nothing worth a damn in the stable…
I think Dallas needs a RB more than wr
We're singing the national anthem for the draft?
Jacksonville is so incredibly, poorly run.
Such a dumb move. Browns showing signs of being smart.
Watching the Cowboys broadcast on the laptop off to my side... No activity on the war room yet. Doesn't look like we've traded up for Jeanty just yet.
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