***Official Houston Astros 2025-26 Offseason Thread***

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In reply to EastCoastAgNc • 11:59a, 11/2/25
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EastCoastAgNc said:


Don't know how we will recover from losing Rodgers and Kimbrel
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In reply to tjack16 • 12:00p, 11/2/25
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tjack16 said:
EastCoastAgNc said:


Don't know how we will recover from losing Rodgers and Kimbrel

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1:08p, 11/2/25
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I think the designated 2-way player is something that needs to be evaluated. You're giving the Dodgers an advantage with an extra pitcher as a two-way player only counting as a hitter. A 2-way player should could as both a hitter and pitcher.
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In reply to TRM • 1:55p, 11/2/25
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The issue for me isn't a 2 way player as it is how the umps treated him last night.

Giving Ohtani extra time that nobody else gets was BS.
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1:59p, 11/2/25
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They're about to go through massive turnover
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In reply to EastCoastAgNc • 2:23p, 11/2/25
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EastCoastAgNc said:

They're about to go through massive turnover


Or pay a lot more money.
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In reply to Mathguy64 • 2:28p, 11/2/25
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Mathguy64 said:
EastCoastAgNc said:

They're about to go through massive turnover


Or pay a lot more money.


They'll be in the bidding war for Tucker w/ LA and SF
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In reply to agproducer • 3:20p, 11/2/25
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The Dodgers have 7 players with deferred salary this year to the tune of $1.02 billion. The Mets have 3 players deferred for $100 million, the second highest, yet one tenth of the amount the Dodgers have deferred. The Dodgers on top of that had the highest salaries in MLB this year at $416M. The Mets payroll was second at $341M.

Now, keep telling me they didn't buy a championship.

For other referrals, other teams have nominal deferrals with one or two players under 20m.

Eff those guys. I will never respect this championship.


Spotrac says Dodgers had a payroll of $350M while the Mets had $341 as you said.

Blue Jays had the 5th highest payroll this season at $255M

They may have spent $95M less than the Dodgers, but let's not act like the Blue Jays tried to get by with $150M.

The deferrals are something else, but this was a WS of two teams that spent a lot of money.
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In reply to Beat40 • 3:28p, 11/2/25
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Yeah but if you undefer that salary would have been north of $500MM. And then the question is could they have actually afforded that level of yearly payroll?
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3:33p, 11/2/25
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They spent 37% more than the team they beat, which as you said had the 5th highest payroll. They didn't both spend a lot. The Jays spent a lot and the Dodgers spent a crazy amount of money. Said a different way, if the Dodgers simply didnt have Ohtani or Freedie, they would have equal payrolls.
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In reply to Beat40 • 4:19p, 11/2/25
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Beat40 said:
agproducer said:
The Dodgers have 7 players with deferred salary this year to the tune of $1.02 billion. The Mets have 3 players deferred for $100 million, the second highest, yet one tenth of the amount the Dodgers have deferred. The Dodgers on top of that had the highest salaries in MLB this year at $416M. The Mets payroll was second at $341M.

Now, keep telling me they didn't buy a championship.

For other referrals, other teams have nominal deferrals with one or two players under 20m.

Eff those guys. I will never respect this championship.


Spotrac says Dodgers had a payroll of $350M while the Mets had $341 as you said.

Blue Jays had the 5th highest payroll this season at $255M

They may have spent $95M less than the Dodgers, but let's not act like the Blue Jays tried to get by with $150M.

The deferrals are something else, but this was a WS of two teams that spent a lot of money.


The 416 for the Dodgers is taxable payroll. 350 is the adjusted payroll. Dodgers adjusted payroll plus tax is 585M.

Toronto has taxable payroll of 279. Adjusted payroll was 255. 289 for adjusted payroll plus tax.

585 is almost twice what the Jays spent.

The Dodgers tax bill is 175 M, higher than the adjusted payroll of 16 teams. Just 3 more million in taxes, and their bill is higher than the adjusted payrolls of 18 teams.

After all the griping about Astros and taxes, their taxable payroll was 244, just above the threshold. Adjustable payroll was 232. Tax + adjusted payroll was 245M. Astros are expected to pay 1M in tax.

Dodgers tax bill is 175 times the size of the Astros.

Again, the Dodgers bought the title.
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4:20p, 11/2/25
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Adjusted payroll is the way to soften just how much more the Dodgers spent than every other team this year.
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5:55p, 11/2/25
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The 'commissioner' allowed the Dodgers ( and few others ) to defer huge amounts of salary, to skirt the payroll tax, which is designed to help lower income teams compete. It's complete BS to kiss the ass of the super big market teams and give them a free pathway to dominate.
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6:18p, 11/2/25
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Imagine if the Cowboys got to use their league-leading revenue to spend twice as much as other teams. I think even Jerry Jones could put together another Super Bowl winning team.
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In reply to iBrad • 6:26p, 11/2/25
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iBrad said:
Imagine if the Cowboys got to use their league-leading revenue to spend twice as much as other teams. I think even Jerry Jones could put together another Super Bowl winning team.

If an angel came to Jerry Jones and told he could win the next 3 superbowls, but all he had to do was not do another press conference for the next 3 years, Jerry would say no deal. You could give him infinite money and he would still find a way to screw it up.
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In reply to Ag4life80 • 7:08p, 11/2/25
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Ag4life80 said:
The 'commissioner' allowed the Dodgers ( and few others ) to defer huge amounts of salary, to skirt the payroll tax, which is designed to help lower income teams compete. It's complete BS to kiss the ass of the super big market teams and give them a free pathway to dominate.


Did the commissioner not allow other teams to do the same thing?
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In reply to linkdude • 7:25p, 11/2/25
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linkdude said:

That's a "I'm looking to screw my former employer" move
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In reply to linkdude • 7:32p, 11/2/25
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linkdude said:
everyone get tye popcorn hot buttered and salted up.
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8:35p, 11/2/25
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So help me if Johnny brings his sorry ass to the South Carolina game...
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9:06p, 11/2/25


I'm putting myself in charge of the countdown.
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In reply to tjack16 • 9:39p, 11/2/25
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tjack16 said:
Ag4life80 said:
The 'commissioner' allowed the Dodgers ( and few others ) to defer huge amounts of salary, to skirt the payroll tax, which is designed to help lower income teams compete. It's complete BS to kiss the ass of the super big market teams and give them a free pathway to dominate.


Did the commissioner not allow other teams to do the same thing?

His job is to uphold the competitive integrity of the game. Knowing that other teams can't do it, and then crapping on the mechanism in place for that competitive balance is hypocritical and really unethical. It's the second time his integrity has failed him in a big way. The first was not releasing the sign stealing report with the intent of shielding the blueblood franchises.
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In reply to Ag4life80 • 9:59p, 11/2/25
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In reply to Ag4life80 • 10:16p, 11/2/25
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tjack16 said:
Ag4life80 said:
The 'commissioner' allowed the Dodgers ( and few others ) to defer huge amounts of salary, to skirt the payroll tax, which is designed to help lower income teams compete. It's complete BS to kiss the ass of the super big market teams and give them a free pathway to dominate.


Did the commissioner not allow other teams to do the same thing?

His job is to uphold the competitive integrity of the game. Knowing that other teams can't do it, and then crapping on the mechanism in place for that competitive balance is hypocritical and really unethical. It's the second time his integrity has failed him in a big way. The first was not releasing the sign stealing report with the intent of shielding the blueblood franchises.


Im just waiting on the gambling problem in baseball to show up. Too much smoke with Ohtani and other pitchers
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10:23p, 11/2/25
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This says all you need to know about the Dodgers.

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8:33a, 11/3/25
Coach still helping the cause but from INSIDE the Ranger org. I respect it

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In reply to All I do is Nguyen • 9:08a, 11/3/25
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All I do is Nguyen said:
Coach still helping the cause but from INSIDE the Ranger org. I respect it


Interesting that neither he nor Snitker got immediately get snapped up to be the head hitting coach by somebody who wanted that 2017-2022 magic. Both are working as assistants to lead hitting coaches now.
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In reply to txags92 • 9:33a, 11/3/25
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How many lead hitting coach positions were available?
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In reply to Farmer1906 • 9:45a, 11/3/25
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Farmer1906 said:
How many lead hitting coach positions were available?

Mets, Astros, Rockies, and White Sox so far. Mets moved somebody else into the lead rather than hire either Snitker or Cintron for the lead.
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9:58a, 11/3/25
Spring Training Countdown: 98 days



In 1998, the Astros won 100 games for the first time in franchise history, finished 102-60, never falling more than 3-1/2 games out of first, being in first for 135 days, scoring 51 comeback wins, 11 walkoffs, and only getting shut out 6 times. Their best month was august when they went a gaudy 22-7 (.759).

Unstoppable offense:
Negating the pitchers, the team hit .289 for the year with an .820 OPS.
Bagwell: .304/.424/.557 slash with 124 R, 34 HR, 111 RBI
Biggio: /.325/.403/.503 slash with 210 H (club record), 123 R, 51 2B, 20 HR, 88 RBI, 50 steals. One of two players ever with a 50 2B, 50 SB season. The other was Tris Speaker in 1912.
Moises Alou: /.312/.399/.582 slash with 104 R, 38 HR, 124 RBI.
Derek Bell: /314/.364/.490 slash with 111 R, 198 H, 41 2B, 22 HR, 108 RBI
All 8 regular position players stole at least 0 bases.
3B platoon of Sean Berry and Bill Spiers had 17 HR and 95 RBI.
Richard Hidalgo hit .303 in 74 games as a rookie

Incredible pitching:
Reynolds, Lima, and Randy Johnson combined to go 45-17. Shane had his best year ever : 19-8 and led the league in starts. Your fourth and fifth starters, Hampton and Sean Bergman, wee a combined 23-16.
Wagner was 4-3 with a 2.70 ERA and 30 saves and struck out 97 batters in 60 innings.
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