DOJ: Epstein killed himself, no client list

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The Fall Guy
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74OA said:

The Fall Guy said:

74OA said:

The amount of unreleased evidence the government has possession of is a bit mindboggling.

For example: "The three-page index is a report generated by the FBI that lists the evidence inventoried by federal law enforcement during the multiple investigations into his conduct. According to that index, the remaining materials include 40 computers and electronic devices, 26 storage drives, more than 70 CDs and six recording devices. The devices hold more than 300 gigabytes of data, according to the DOJ. The evidence also includes approximately 60 pieces of physical evidence, including photographs, travel logs, employee lists...."

WOW


But nobody in any of those files right? Just fluff.

It's hard to believe. More:

"The unreleased evidence notably includes multiple documents related to two islands Epstein owned in the U.S. Virgin Islands, Little Saint James -- where his compound was located -- and Greater Saint James. According to the index, the files include a folder containing Island blueprints, photographs and other documents.
Some of the documents could shed light on who visited the island. According to the index, the files also include a Little Saint James logbook as well as multiple logs of boat trips to and from the island.
The evidence also includes multiple lists, one vaguely described as a "document with names" and an employee contact list."


Thanks for this info. Quite alarming.
The AntAGonist
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I just want to know why Trump never managed his eyebrows? The man had all that money and no one could handle his eyebrows? I have bushy eyebrows. Every time I walk into the Supercuts, they are asking me if I want them trimmed. Like Yes! I don't want no Ichobad Crane/Donald Trump looking cockeyed eyebrows!

Just goes to show, if you can't manage your eyebrows, you can't manage your conspiracy.
flown-the-coop
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That probably sounded funnier between you and your keyboard.
The Fall Guy
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flown-the-coop said:

That probably sounded funnier between you and your keyboard.


The fact you keep mentioning Libs and Cms's shows your in bed with govt. This is not about political parties, libs, magas, cms's. Its pretty damn clear
FWTXAg
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74OA said:

The Fall Guy said:

74OA said:

The amount of unreleased evidence the government has possession of is a bit mindboggling.

For example: "The three-page index is a report generated by the FBI that lists the evidence inventoried by federal law enforcement during the multiple investigations into his conduct. According to that index, the remaining materials include 40 computers and electronic devices, 26 storage drives, more than 70 CDs and six recording devices. The devices hold more than 300 gigabytes of data, according to the DOJ. The evidence also includes approximately 60 pieces of physical evidence, including photographs, travel logs, employee lists...."

WOW


But nobody in any of those files right? Just fluff.

It's hard to believe. More:

"The unreleased evidence notably includes multiple documents related to two islands Epstein owned in the U.S. Virgin Islands, Little Saint James -- where his compound was located -- and Greater Saint James. According to the index, the files include a folder containing Island blueprints, photographs and other documents.
Some of the documents could shed light on who visited the island. According to the index, the files also include a Little Saint James logbook as well as multiple logs of boat trips to and from the island.
The evidence also includes multiple lists, one vaguely described as a "document with names" and an employee contact list."


Unfortunately, before even being released to the public, we know that all of that evidence was fabricated by Obama, therefore we should not ask any more questions in reference to Jeffrey Epstein. Case closed.

Now I will start asking you questions and bringing up nefarious actions that the other side does to make you move on with your pathetic lives.

Signed,

The Ministry of Truth & The Party

- George Orwell
bobbranco
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The Fall Guy said:

flown-the-coop said:

That probably sounded funnier between you and your keyboard.


The fact you keep mentioning Libs and Cms's shows your in bed with govt. This is not about political parties, libs, magas, cms's. Its pretty damn clear


What is it about? Be clear.

At this point it is only about dumping on Trump and his administration.
The Fall Guy
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bobbranco said:

The Fall Guy said:

flown-the-coop said:

That probably sounded funnier between you and your keyboard.


The fact you keep mentioning Libs and Cms's shows your in bed with govt. This is not about political parties, libs, magas, cms's. Its pretty damn clear


What is it about? Be clear.

At this point it is only about dumping on Trump and his administration.


So the last 4 years nobody dumped on Clinton or Prince Andrew. Puuullleeeze. I was happy when that happened because I have not taken a side on a dead pedophile and an imprisoned sex trafficker.

Both sides don't want this out. Stop goaltending for a party.
FWTXAg
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bobbranco said:

The Fall Guy said:

flown-the-coop said:

That probably sounded funnier between you and your keyboard.


The fact you keep mentioning Libs and Cms's shows your in bed with govt. This is not about political parties, libs, magas, cms's. Its pretty damn clear


What is it about? Be clear.

At this point it is only about dumping on Trump and his administration.



You partisan hacks on both sides see and hear what you want to.


The only point is exposing the depraved nature of our government overlords while they continuously grow government and take money out of our pockets. Get with the program.
bobbranco
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The Fall Guy said:

bobbranco said:

The Fall Guy said:

flown-the-coop said:

That probably sounded funnier between you and your keyboard.


The fact you keep mentioning Libs and Cms's shows your in bed with govt. This is not about political parties, libs, magas, cms's. Its pretty damn clear


What is it about? Be clear.

At this point it is only about dumping on Trump and his administration.


So the last 4 years nobody dumped on Clinton or Prince Andrew. Puuullleeeze. I was happy when that happened because I have not taken a side on a dead pedophile and an imprisoned sex trafficker.

Both sides don't want this out. Stop goaltending for a party.

Not goaltending at all. But point out anybody taking the side of a dead pedo and an imprisoned pedo.

If Trump was guilty or anybody else was guilty the government has done a good job of keeping it secret or it may just be that the pedos did not entrap anybody else other than Prince Andrew. Bill is protected by Hillary. No one can get past Hildabeast to Bill.
bobbranco
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FWTXAg said:

bobbranco said:

The Fall Guy said:

flown-the-coop said:

That probably sounded funnier between you and your keyboard.


The fact you keep mentioning Libs and Cms's shows your in bed with govt. This is not about political parties, libs, magas, cms's. Its pretty damn clear


What is it about? Be clear.

At this point it is only about dumping on Trump and his administration.



You partisan hacks on both sides see and hear what you want to.


The only point is exposing the depraved nature of our government overlords while they continuously grow government and take money out of our pockets. Get with the program.


Then get elected and fix it. Otherwise keep typing.
flown-the-coop
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The Fall Guy said:

flown-the-coop said:

That probably sounded funnier between you and your keyboard.


The fact you keep mentioning Libs and Cms's shows your in bed with govt. This is not about political parties, libs, magas, cms's. Its pretty damn clear

Oh it is not about politics?

Then why not hush and let Trump's DOJ handle this. It does not require your input.

That's pretty damn clear.

And I am in bed with the government. That sounds just downright funny right there.
flown-the-coop
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bobbranco said:

FWTXAg said:

bobbranco said:

The Fall Guy said:

flown-the-coop said:

That probably sounded funnier between you and your keyboard.


The fact you keep mentioning Libs and Cms's shows your in bed with govt. This is not about political parties, libs, magas, cms's. Its pretty damn clear


What is it about? Be clear.

At this point it is only about dumping on Trump and his administration.



You partisan hacks on both sides see and hear what you want to.


The only point is exposing the depraved nature of our government overlords while they continuously grow government and take money out of our pockets. Get with the program.


Then get elected and fix it. Otherwise keep typing.

Yea, they will never do anything but lob holy declarations on the internet. They likely never stood for a damn thing in life, likely never started their own business, been responsible for the lives of others and certainly have never had to make tough calls regarding how things should be handled.

Then, it a bit of lush hypocrisy, accuse others of being subservient to something they call "Dear Leader" and make poor reference to Orwellian ideals.

When that all fails, they say you are part of government, that the government is worthless and only steals your money, and that only they know best.

Its quite comical.
Im Gipper
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Nothingburger.



(And I am personally OK with that redaction, the point is all of the "influencers" trying to sell this as a big deal are either stupid or think you are stupid and will believe it)

I'm Gipper
austinAG90
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FobTies said:

Ok, "will he file a lawsuit". He knew the story was coming, he could have had a 1 paragraph legal letter drafted. Point is whether or not he will actually challenge in court where those DOJ assessments could be made public.

You seem to be an expert on lawsuits. Do you think he will go to court with WSJ?



Well well. Seems he "Hedged" his bets.
4stringAg
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I'm pretty resigned to nothing of substance coming out on Epstein. I don't think either party has the stomach for it. The Dems just want to get Trump or tie him in some way with their media minions putting out so called bombshells that are really nothing more than old news recycled or spinning some tidbit with innuendo. Everyone knows Trump and Epstein hung together and ran in the same circles. They are capitalizing on this Epstein dust up to rehash it.

On the flip side, I think Trump and the Reps just want to get on with his agenda. Whether that's because there's dirt on Trump or other R's or simply because they have a lot of momentum with winning lately while the Dems are flailing, who knows.

Either way, count me as one who thinks this will all go nowhere.
Zachary Klement
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We fixed the keg said:

Aginlakeway has a point here.

Releasing a list of actual names of people that haven't been charged with, let alone convicted, of a crime would be attempting to solve a problem while creating others. At best you might be able to release a redacted set with "Politician A" or "Actor B", but even then it might be opening up accusations against the wrong politicians or actors.

Having said that, (1) I don't trust that any politicians or 3 letter agencies have prosecuted everyone that has committed crimes associated with Epstein, (2) as such, I believe there are things her to be investigated and most likely to end in prosecutions, and (3) it is possible, because I am in this list, to think the messaging/PR by the Trump Admin has been horrid and made things worse, BUT it doesn't derail my support for all the great things being done.

Maybe a special prosecutor is the way to go, but whatever path is taken, there needs to be people beyond question teamed up to do this. Not a cherry-picked loyalist.
How much would it really impact the people that associated with him, though?

We are aware he and Trump were buddies and that didn't stop him from becoming President.

We know he associated with Bill Clinton, Elon Musk, Bill Gates, and a number of others and none of their lives have been meaningfully altered.
Im Gipper
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Nevermind. It was fake!

I'm Gipper
aginlakeway
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Zachary Klement said:

We fixed the keg said:

Aginlakeway has a point here.

Releasing a list of actual names of people that haven't been charged with, let alone convicted, of a crime would be attempting to solve a problem while creating others. At best you might be able to release a redacted set with "Politician A" or "Actor B", but even then it might be opening up accusations against the wrong politicians or actors.

Having said that, (1) I don't trust that any politicians or 3 letter agencies have prosecuted everyone that has committed crimes associated with Epstein, (2) as such, I believe there are things her to be investigated and most likely to end in prosecutions, and (3) it is possible, because I am in this list, to think the messaging/PR by the Trump Admin has been horrid and made things worse, BUT it doesn't derail my support for all the great things being done.

Maybe a special prosecutor is the way to go, but whatever path is taken, there needs to be people beyond question teamed up to do this. Not a cherry-picked loyalist.

How much would it really impact the people that associated with him, though?

We are aware he and Trump were buddies and that didn't stop him from becoming President.

We know he associated with Bill Clinton, Elon Musk, Bill Gates, and a number of others and none of their lives have been meaningfully altered.


It would greatly impact the hundreds of associates or friends or employees that aren't famous. Why should their names be dragged into this?

I don't recall mass murderer's friends and associates being named.
FobTies
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Epstein fled to Israel in 2008 after being convicted of solicitation of a minor.

He told people he only hires orthodox Jews for his "hedge fund".

Lots of other Jew/Israel connections. But its just a coincidence, Dave said it best:

If its black, its a "gang".
If its Italian, its the "mob".
If its Jewish, its a "coincidence" and you shouldn't speak about it.


Zachary Klement
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aginlakeway said:

Zachary Klement said:

We fixed the keg said:

Aginlakeway has a point here.

Releasing a list of actual names of people that haven't been charged with, let alone convicted, of a crime would be attempting to solve a problem while creating others. At best you might be able to release a redacted set with "Politician A" or "Actor B", but even then it might be opening up accusations against the wrong politicians or actors.

Having said that, (1) I don't trust that any politicians or 3 letter agencies have prosecuted everyone that has committed crimes associated with Epstein, (2) as such, I believe there are things her to be investigated and most likely to end in prosecutions, and (3) it is possible, because I am in this list, to think the messaging/PR by the Trump Admin has been horrid and made things worse, BUT it doesn't derail my support for all the great things being done.

Maybe a special prosecutor is the way to go, but whatever path is taken, there needs to be people beyond question teamed up to do this. Not a cherry-picked loyalist.

How much would it really impact the people that associated with him, though?

We are aware he and Trump were buddies and that didn't stop him from becoming President.

We know he associated with Bill Clinton, Elon Musk, Bill Gates, and a number of others and none of their lives have been meaningfully altered.


It would greatly impact the hundreds of associates or friends or employees that aren't famous. Why should their names be dragged into this?

I don't recall mass murderer's friends and associates being named.
I don't think many people are clamoring to know about the random average joe type people he ever hung around.

I think people are more interested in knowing the full extent to which he associated with people of great wealth, power, and influence.
SwigAg11
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Edit: Not actually sure on the accuracy of the X post.
HTownAg98
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It's very, very fake news. It has Trump listed as pro se. No way in hell he does that.
SwigAg11
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HTownAg98 said:

It's very, very fake news. It has Trump listed as pro se. No way in hell he does that.

Yep. I tried to edit when I realized it was fake, but you replied before I could.
HTownAg98
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Im Gipper said:

Nevermind. It was fake!

Never trust a source that doesn't link to the filing.
Im Gipper
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Apparently, it has now been filed. From Trump.

BREAKING NEWS: We have just filed a POWERHOUSE Lawsuit against everyone involved in publishing the false, malicious, defamatory, FAKE NEWS "article" in the useless "rag" that is, The Wall Street Journal. This historic legal action is being brought against the so-called authors of this defamation, the now fully disgraced WSJ, as well as its corporate owners and affiliates, with Rupert Murdoch and Robert Thomson (whatever his role is!) at the top of the list. We have proudly held to account ABC and George Slopadopoulos, CBS and 60 Minutes, The Fake Pulitzer Prizes, and many others who deal in, and push, disgusting LIES, and even FRAUD, to the American People. This lawsuit is filed not only on behalf of your favorite President, ME, but also in order to continue standing up for ALL Americans who will no longer tolerate the abusive wrongdoings of the Fake News Media. I hope Rupert and his "friends" are looking forward to the many hours of depositions and testimonies they will have to provide in this case. Thank you for your attention to this matter. We will, MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!

I'm Gipper
FobTies
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Well there it is! Trump was already locked and loaded. Bondi holds the keys to the DOJ evidence on the birthday card. The question probably isnt whether the bday letter exists, but if it can be proven who drafted it.

Will be interesting to see if WSJ stand by it.
SwigAg11
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It's my understanding that DoJ cannot release any of the documents yet until the federal court unseals it?
Im Gipper
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They cannot release any grand jury documents.

They can release anything in their file that they want if approved by the President.

I'm Gipper
SwigAg11
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Im Gipper said:

They cannot release any grand jury documents.

They can release anything in their file that they want if approved by the President.

Is DoJ trying to get the grand jury documents unsealed so they can say they did something and not release all of their own documents?
FobTies
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The DOJ will release it....to the shredder


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"This lawsuit is filed not only on behalf of your favorite President, ME, but also in order to continue standing up for ALL Americans who will no longer tolerate the abusive wrongdoings of the Fake News Media."

Love it. He cracks me up. Lolz
flown-the-coop
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Im Gipper said:

They cannot release any grand jury documents.

They can release anything in their file that they want if approved by the President.


I asked earlier, but does the DOJ have access to or copy of the grand jury testimony? If so they could release it.

I understand Trump has thus far not taunted the judiciary with such defiant actions, but could, should are different things.

As with all things these days, norms and precedence need not apply.
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Since the other threads got locked.

$10 Billy!

"We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution."

- Abraham Lincoln
Im Gipper
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Grand jury testimony cannot be made public without a court order. Yes, in theory, they could just release it and break the rules of the court, but this administration will not do that. The Trump Department of Justice is not lawless like liberals.

I'm Gipper
flown-the-coop
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Im Gipper said:

Grand jury testimony cannot be made public without a court order. Yes, in theory, they could just release it and break the rules of the court, but this administration will not do that. The Trump Department of Justice is not lawless like liberals.


Roger that and 100% agree.

But at some point Trump DOJ may get pushed to show cards. If there is not a process for Congress or SCOTUS to the judge in this instance, then the process is broke.
 
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