DOJ: Epstein killed himself, no client list

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aggiehawg
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Im Gipper said:

Charpie said:

I am seeing random tweets that Maxwell is getting limited immunity


Not uncommon. "Tell us what you know, we won't use this conversation against you".

Wonder if she had a Queen for a Day meeting? To warrant use immunity?
f1ghtintexasaggie
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When was the last time they checked the cameras in her cell block for working functionality? Can we live stream her cell until she finishes cooperating?
FobTies
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Maxwells lawyer claims she shouldn't have been prosecuted as "co-conspirator" promise made in Epstein's Florida case, where he got rescued by feds. Alex Acosta made that deal...after feds told him Epstein "belonged to intelligence".

So that deal likely comes into focus again which may put scrutiny back on Acosta and Feds.



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The assurances given to Jeffrey Epstein's co-conspirators stem primarily from a 2008 non-prosecution agreement (NPA) negotiated between Epstein and federal prosecutors in the Southern District of Florida, led by then-U.S. Attorney Alexander Acosta. The NPA granted immunity from federal criminal charges to Epstein and extended to "any potential co-conspirators" for crimes related to his sexual abuse activities in Florida. This agreement was controversial, as it effectively halted an ongoing FBI investigation into whether there were additional victims or other powerful individuals involved in Epstein's crimes, and it was kept secret from the victims, violating federal law. The Miami Herald reported that this deal was negotiated with the assistance of Epstein's lawyer, Alan Dershowitz, and included four named co-conspirators alongside unnamed "potential co-conspirators."


Edit- Ghislaine would have been "unamed"
flown-the-coop
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One was the model, no?

Correction: Modeling agent Jean-Luc Brunel.
Im Gipper
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What story is that from?

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FobTies
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Yeah, looks like a model and 3 assistants were named as co-conspirators, with GMax being unamed.
aginlakeway
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My prediction: Trump is not implicated by her. And the left says it doesn't matter. Trump may still be a pedophile.
aggiehawg
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Quote:

1) J. Epstein
2) G. Maxwell
3) name?
4) name?

The French guy who ran a modeling agency and died in jail?

And Wexner, of The Limited stores?
flown-the-coop
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Preach.
K2-HMFIC
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K2-HMFIC said:

How long before Maxwell gets pardoned?





Over Under - 1 Sept
Im Gipper
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Over. Easy.


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FobTies
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Im Gipper said:

What story is that from?


Grok sourced doj.gov, Mami Herold, NYT....prob have pay walls. Maxwells attorney seems confident it applies, but she was obviously convicted and jailed. So hopefully it gets addressed.

But in the same way they made Acosta disappear, they will prob make the old plea deal disappear again. Its the smoking gun in all this. Its better to give her a new "immunity" than reference immunity that was a favor to Epstein as a deepstate co-operator.
Im Gipper
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She did not get "immunity" from any Epstein deal. Read the actual docs and learn something. Stop with the "well AI says…." It's a bad look.

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FobTies
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Im Gipper said:

She did not get "immunity" from any Epstein deal. Read the actual docs and learn something. Stop with the "well AI says…." It's a bad look.

I never claimed she got "immunity". I posted about the old non-prosecution assurance being reported on, and that her lawyer is harping about.

I used the word "immunity" quoted, related to possible new deals as part of her new cooperation that is being posted here by others.

You are so jaded you come here to try to troll with a stupid "gotcha". Im not making a determination, just referencing the original FL plea deal. Quit derailing, its a bad look.

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Jaded? What are you talking about?

You can't even keep your own posts straight!

This you?

Grok, someone is calling out my ignorance on Texags F16! What meme should I post to look edgy?

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Go read my posts. I never once said any plea deal gave Maxwell immunity as you tried to claim.

My point was that her Lawyer is referencing that FL non-prosecutorial agreement, and that it puts the focus back on that old Epstein plea deal. I dont care if helps Maxwell or not. I care that it puts the focus back on the feds confirming to Acosta Epstein "belonged to intel". Thats what the normal person would gather from my post. You on the other hand decided to make a strawman about "immunity", and how cool you are for not using AI.
Im Gipper
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"her Lawyer is referencing that FL non-prosecutorial agreement" because he's desperate to get her out of jail. She's currently trying to get her case heard by SCOTUS.

YOU literally brought up the immunity. Twisted by your own words. Again.

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FobTies
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My posts speak for themselves. My meaning is very clear. You are desperately trying to derail with some stupid technical argument about difference between "non-prosecution agreement" and "immunity".

Do you want to weigh in on whether that old plea deal will be explored again? Or do you just want to nitpick me personally for using a colloquial term, even after I clarified my underlying point over and over.

*To clarify again, I dont care if her lawyer is desperate or if the old plea deal has no legal standing. I care that he is bringing it up, and the press is likely going to report on it again.
f1ghtintexasaggie
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FobTies said:

Im Gipper said:

What story is that from?


Grok sourced doj.gov, Mami Herold, NYT....prob have pay walls. Maxwells attorney seems confident it applies, but she was obviously convicted and jailed. So hopefully it gets addressed.

But in the same way they made Acosta disappear, they will prob make the old plea deal disappear again. Its the smoking gun in all this. Its better to give her a new "immunity" than reference immunity that was a favor to Epstein as a deepstate co-operator.


My understanding is that the deal was ultimately invalidated for Maxwell's trial and conviction because of this:

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This agreement was controversial, as it effectively halted an ongoing FBI investigation into whether there were additional victims or other powerful individuals involved in Epstein's crimes, and it was kept secret from the victims, violating federal law.
Im Gipper
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FobTies said:

My posts speak for themselves. My meaning is very clear. You are desperately trying to derail with some stupid technical argument about difference between "non-prosecution agreement" and "immunity".



Wow. Just wow. There is an enormous difference in the two! That you don't understand that yet keep talking as if they are the same is very telling.

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Do you want to weigh in on whether that old plea deal will be explored again?


Explored again? What does that even mean? It's currently being explored for Maxwell!!
It's not going to be explored for anyone else because the DoJ wants this all to just go away.

Becoming clearer and clearer you really don't follow this story, just keep spouting the same lines incessantly.

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Im Gipper
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It did not apply for Maxwell case because (1) a US attorney can't enter a non-prosecution agreement that covers the entire US, only his district; (2) the Epstein non-protection agreement did not purport to cover the whole US, but only that specific US attorney; (3) even if those were not true, Maxwells crimes were outside the scope.

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f1ghtintexasaggie
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Could you link a source? I'd be interested in learning.
FobTies
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There is an enormous difference in the terms used in a legal setting. Not how I used it in making my point here. You know what my point was. You are desperate trying to flex. People like you are the reason lawyer jokes exist.

Maybe Acosta and the orgins of his old plea deal with feds gets further scrutinized bc Maxwells attorney keeps arguing it. Maybe it doesnt. Guess we will see.

I never came here to argue the legal standing of the plea deal. My original post on the topic and subsequent posts make that very clear.
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Here you go

https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/appellate-courts/ca2/22-1426/22-1426-2024-09-17.html

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f1ghtintexasaggie
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Ty
HTownAg98
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Im Gipper said:

Over. Easy.



MAGA will manage to twist themselves into knots that pardoning Maxwell is a good thing, not realizing that Trump being associated with a pedophile will somehow (?) go away by pardoning someone that aided a pedophile.
Prosperdick
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It must be SOOOO exhausting to be a liberal shill for the Dems. First of all you have to denounce the Jews in one breath and call Trump literally Hitler in the next.

Then you have to pump up the Epstein client list knowing that the vast majority of those on it will be on your side.

Finally, you have to root for men in women's sports while also being simps for Islam who would throw any transgender or gay off the nearest rooftop.

How do you idiots do it? I'm guessing a lot of drugs to numb you of the cognitive dissonance that must be soul crushing...if you believed in God.
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Username checks out
Rockdoc
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HTownAg98 said:

Im Gipper said:

Over. Easy.



MAGA will manage to twist themselves into knots that pardoning Maxwell is a good thing, not realizing that Trump being associated with a pedophile will somehow (?) go away by pardoning someone that aided a pedophile.

You're trying too hard. Just because they were once friends doesn't mean he was a pedofile. Libs all think alike.
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NormanEH said:

Username checks out

I may be a dick, but I know who my savior is and libs are just such miserable people, I seriously don't know how they wake up each morning and don't walk into oncoming traffic. They need to find God but hey, that's just me, the dick.

OK back to the Epstein speculation that a guy who definitely has a type when it comes to women is secretly a pedophile.
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Rockdoc said:

HTownAg98 said:

Im Gipper said:

Over. Easy.



MAGA will manage to twist themselves into knots that pardoning Maxwell is a good thing, not realizing that Trump being associated with a pedophile will somehow (?) go away by pardoning someone that aided a pedophile.

You're trying too hard. Just because they were once friends doesn't mean he was a pedofile. Libs all think alike.

Your reading comprehension is ass. Show me where I said that I think Trump is a pedophile.
sincereag
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I guess my main concern with the Epstein files is they were in the hands of the corrupt Biden administration for four years. No telling what they did to the files with possible manipulation of the content. What confidence would you have that the files haven't been tampered with?
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HTownAg98 said:

Rockdoc said:

HTownAg98 said:

Im Gipper said:

Over. Easy.



MAGA will manage to twist themselves into knots that pardoning Maxwell is a good thing, not realizing that Trump being associated with a pedophile will somehow (?) go away by pardoning someone that aided a pedophile.

You're trying too hard. Just because they were once friends doesn't mean he was a pedofile. Libs all think alike.

Your reading comprehension is ass. Show me where I said that I think Trump is a pedophile.

Libs are so sensitive. We know how to read between the lines.
GMaster0
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Is a fact that Trump was close friends with a pedophile who was raping children at the same time.
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GMaster0 said:

Is a fact that Trump was close friends with a pedophile who was raping children at the same time.


Then go get him. Good luck.
 
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