DOJ: Epstein killed himself, no client list

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PaulsBunions
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Rapier108
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Trump has been after Massie long before the insanity over Epstein started.

But that doesn't stop the Epsteiners from seeing something that isn't there.

This has truly reached Q-Anon level of insanity.

Actually, Q would be embarrassed by it.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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Rapier108 said:

Trump has been after Massie long before the insanity over Epstein started.

But that doesn't stop the Epsteiners from seeing something that isn't there.

This has truly reached Q-Anon level of insanity.

Actually, Q would be embarrassed by it.


There'd be no harm in releasing the files then
rgvag11
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"You don't want to affect people's lives if it's phony stuff in there, because it's a lot of phony stuff with that whole world."
Old McDonald
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"we lied about releasing the epstein docs to get elected, we never really cared and it's time for you to get over it and move on"
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Rapier108 said:

Trump has been after Massie long before the insanity over Epstein started.

But that doesn't stop the Epsteiners from seeing something that isn't there.

This has truly reached Q-Anon level of insanity.

Actually, Q would be embarrassed by it.


True, but would the Kraken?
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PaulsBunions
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So much for "the most transparent admin in history" lol
aginlakeway
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PaulsBunions said:

Rapier108 said:

Trump has been after Massie long before the insanity over Epstein started.

But that doesn't stop the Epsteiners from seeing something that isn't there.

This has truly reached Q-Anon level of insanity.

Actually, Q would be embarrassed by it.


There'd be no harm in releasing the files then


In your opinion, what are "the files" specifically that you want released?

And how is the release of innocent people's names not harmful?
rgvag11
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Not exactly true. Trump said that before the election and Fox edited that part out when they aired his response. Trump's full answer to the question wasn't aired until it played on Will Cain's radio show.
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How long before Maxwell gets pardoned?
TAMU1990
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There's nothing in there that matters to Dems. How do I know that? They would have already released it if it could harm Trump. They sat on it the past 4 years. It's just a political tool to stir people up.
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TAMU1990 said:

There's nothing in there that matters to Dems. How do I know that? They would have already released it if it could harm Trump. They sat on it the past 4 years. It's just a political tool to stir people up.


100% agree.

If ANYTHING out there was harmful to Trump, it would have been released years ago.
rgvag11
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Dems were in Epstein's orbit along with Trump. Perhaps the establishment Dems thought they had more to lose than gain.
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HTownAg98 said:


I'll take "Things That Will Never Happen," for $600, Ken.


Well, if this is true, then Bondi needs to publicly fall on the sword for all of her baseless bravado back in February. She owes the public an apology. Honestly, she should be fired.
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President Trump has told us to release all credible evidence. If Ghislane Maxwell has information about anyone who has committed crimes against victims, the FBI and the DOJ will hear what she has to say.

Therefore, at the direction of Attorney General Bondi, I have communicated with counsel for Ms. Maxwell to determine whether she would be willing to speak with prosecutors from the Department. I anticipate meeting with Ms. Maxwell in the coming days. Until now, no administration on behalf of the Department had inquired about her willingness to meet with the government. That changes now.

Possible reduction in sentence time, commutation of sentence? Not sure how I feel about that prospect.
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OPAG said:

One thing that i am absolutely sure of is that Trump's relationship with Epstein was totally business. He did not engage in any pedo activity no matter how hard the antichirst left try to connect it.

Trump is not with holding any info to protect himself. In fact the opposite is true, if the whole things was released it would exonerate him.

If he (the DOJ) is holding things back (and there probably is things be held back) it is all the ties to all kinds of ties that Epstein had on multiple fronts and there are many that did nothing but business and their would be a massive witch hunt launched against them. Of that I am sure.

One thing that is not in doubt here, Epstein has a loot ties to a a LOOOT of people, from all kinds of backgrounds. It's a huge mess. And we do not need an 'off with his head' mentality towards any and everyone who had any dealings with him at all. And that's exactly what many want in the name of 'whacking pedos'

I'm on the fence about if I think Trump is criminally implicated with Epstein. What I do know is that for a decade, Trump has been talking about "draining the swamp", getting rid of corruption, being transparent, "locking her up", etc.

You can't be talking like that for so long and then cover this up.
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Keyno said:

OPAG said:

One thing that i am absolutely sure of is that Trump's relationship with Epstein was totally business. He did not engage in any pedo activity no matter how hard the antichirst left try to connect it.

Trump is not with holding any info to protect himself. In fact the opposite is true, if the whole things was released it would exonerate him.

If he (the DOJ) is holding things back (and there probably is things be held back) it is all the ties to all kinds of ties that Epstein had on multiple fronts and there are many that did nothing but business and their would be a massive witch hunt launched against them. Of that I am sure.

One thing that is not in doubt here, Epstein has a loot ties to a a LOOOT of people, from all kinds of backgrounds. It's a huge mess. And we do not need an 'off with his head' mentality towards any and everyone who had any dealings with him at all. And that's exactly what many want in the name of 'whacking pedos'

I'm on the fence about if I think Trump is criminal implicated with Epstein. What I do know is that for a decade, Trump has been talking about "draining the swamp", getting rid of corruption, being transparent, "locking her up", etc.

You can't be talking like that for so long and then cover this up.


You IF Trump had done something horribly wrong, you don't think it would have come out before now?

Didn't Trump say to release all credible evidence?
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aginlakeway said:

PaulsBunions said:

Rapier108 said:

Trump has been after Massie long before the insanity over Epstein started.

But that doesn't stop the Epsteiners from seeing something that isn't there.

This has truly reached Q-Anon level of insanity.

Actually, Q would be embarrassed by it.


There'd be no harm in releasing the files then


In your opinion, what are "the files" specifically that you want released?

And how is the release of innocent people's names not harmful?


I think what Massie put in his HR is reasonable. If they're innocent why would the files say otherwise? If the Biden admin doctored the files, can they not say who doctored it and when? Instead they're saying "oh we looked into and nothing was there trust us, and if you keep asking you're a traitor to MAGA".

https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-resolution/581?overview=closed
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HTownAg98 said:


I'll take "Things That Will Never Happen," for $600, Ken.



So Bondi's initial statement said - there was no evidence against any third parties, yet now they are saying - If Ghislane Maxwell has information about anyone who has committed crimes against victims, the FBI and the DOJ will hear what she has to say.

In essence their investigation was so thorough that they didn't talk to the one person who could actually name names and are just now getting to it?

If Dick Durbin's allegations are true, it seems to only investigation was to find mentions of Trump so that they could be buried.
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PaulsBunions said:

aginlakeway said:

PaulsBunions said:

Rapier108 said:

Trump has been after Massie long before the insanity over Epstein started.

But that doesn't stop the Epsteiners from seeing something that isn't there.

This has truly reached Q-Anon level of insanity.

Actually, Q would be embarrassed by it.


There'd be no harm in releasing the files then


In your opinion, what are "the files" specifically that you want released?

And how is the release of innocent people's names not harmful?


I think what Massie put in his HR is reasonable. If they're innocent why would the files say otherwise? If the Biden admin doctored the files, can they not say who doctored it and when? Instead they're saying "oh we looked into and nothing was there trust us, and if you keep asking you're a traitor to MAGA".

https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-resolution/581?overview=closed


So you want to release "files" that include names, including people or simple associates who are innocent?

When has that ever happened in any investigation?
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PaulsBunions said:

aginlakeway said:

PaulsBunions said:

Rapier108 said:

Trump has been after Massie long before the insanity over Epstein started.

But that doesn't stop the Epsteiners from seeing something that isn't there.

This has truly reached Q-Anon level of insanity.

Actually, Q would be embarrassed by it.


There'd be no harm in releasing the files then


In your opinion, what are "the files" specifically that you want released?

And how is the release of innocent people's names not harmful?


I think what Massie put in his HR is reasonable. If they're innocent why would the files say otherwise? If the Biden admin doctored the files, can they not say who doctored it and when? Instead they're saying "oh we looked into and nothing was there trust us, and if you keep asking you're a traitor to MAGA".

https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-resolution/581?overview=closed



If the Biden admin committed multiple felonies by doctoring evidence, why aren't they announcing a criminal investigation into that?

Seems like that would be the appropriate course to draining the swamp.
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aginlakeway said:

PaulsBunions said:

aginlakeway said:

PaulsBunions said:

Rapier108 said:

Trump has been after Massie long before the insanity over Epstein started.

But that doesn't stop the Epsteiners from seeing something that isn't there.

This has truly reached Q-Anon level of insanity.

Actually, Q would be embarrassed by it.


There'd be no harm in releasing the files then


In your opinion, what are "the files" specifically that you want released?

And how is the release of innocent people's names not harmful?


I think what Massie put in his HR is reasonable. If they're innocent why would the files say otherwise? If the Biden admin doctored the files, can they not say who doctored it and when? Instead they're saying "oh we looked into and nothing was there trust us, and if you keep asking you're a traitor to MAGA".

https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-resolution/581?overview=closed


So you want to release "files" that include names, including people or simple associates who are innocent?

When has that ever happened in any investigation?


If they're innocent, and the files don't show any indication of them being guilty, why does it matter? I would prefer the government be forced to release everything they have since they've lied to citizens before and this whole thing smells of a coverup.

To your investigation question, the HR explicitly withholds info relating to an ongoing investigation. And to be honest I don't really care if it has never happened before, the fed has gotten away with too much operating how they have previously. IMO you can't "drain the swamp" by giving the swamp an out.

(C) would jeopardize an active federal investigation or ongoing prosecution, provided that such withholding is narrowly tailored and temporary;
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I was pretty confident Trump wasnt compromised thinking it would have leaked out under Obama or Biden. If there happened to be a victim demanding confidentiality under dems, it would presumably still be that way now. All that said, Trumps sophmoric responses arent helping him.

Surprised he hasnt yet made Bondi get out in front of it by saying there is too much uncorroborated and unreliable info to bring charges, and therefore publicize.

Would love to be a fly on wall when Trump had convos with Patel and Bongino to get them to do 180 on Epstein. Was it about "national security" type implications or something more salacious.
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PaulsBunions said:

aginlakeway said:

PaulsBunions said:

aginlakeway said:

PaulsBunions said:

Rapier108 said:

Trump has been after Massie long before the insanity over Epstein started.

But that doesn't stop the Epsteiners from seeing something that isn't there.

This has truly reached Q-Anon level of insanity.

Actually, Q would be embarrassed by it.


There'd be no harm in releasing the files then


In your opinion, what are "the files" specifically that you want released?

And how is the release of innocent people's names not harmful?


I think what Massie put in his HR is reasonable. If they're innocent why would the files say otherwise? If the Biden admin doctored the files, can they not say who doctored it and when? Instead they're saying "oh we looked into and nothing was there trust us, and if you keep asking you're a traitor to MAGA".

https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-resolution/581?overview=closed


So you want to release "files" that include names, including people or simple associates who are innocent?

When has that ever happened in any investigation?


If they're innocent, and the files don't show any indication of them being guilty, why does it matter? I would prefer the government be forced to release everything they have since they've lied to citizens before and this whole thing smells of a coverup.

To your investigation question, the HR explicitly withholds info relating to an ongoing investigation. And to be honest I don't really care if it has never happened before, the fed has gotten away with too much operating how they have previously. IMO you can't "drain the swamp" by giving the swamp an out.

(C) would jeopardize an active federal investigation or ongoing prosecution, provided that such withholding is narrowly tailored and temporary;


So you want INNOCENT peoples name released as part of the "Epstein files?" You want the names of all associates or anyone who dealt with Epstein?

Those people's lives will be destroyed. And they are innocent. HUGE legal and libel issue with doing this.

When have innocent people's names ever been released to the public as part of a criminal investigation? When a mass murderer is convicted, names of his innocent associates are not released.
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Old McDonald said:

"we lied about releasing the epstein docs to get elected, we never really cared and it's time for you to get over it and move on"


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Old McDonald said:
the DOW has dropped 1000 points in one day 11 times in history. 4 of those have occurred since trump's "day of liberation".

Pichael Thompson said:


Wow


It's almost like after 4 years of mass money printing the market needed a reset



Great insight!

this is weapons grade copium. the current market pullback, whose magnitude and velocity rivals that of some of the worst financial disasters in our history, is entirely self-inflicted by trump's ******ed tariff policy and subsequent flip flopping. it is not a natural correction or a deleveraging of inflated equities.

gotta give trump props, he might be the first person to ever achieve a market correction, increase in bond yields, and devaluation of the USD against other currencies alll at the same time.


Guys, this is genius that is trying again to make fun of Trump and this stupid list. Policy, of any level, is not this poster's strength. Its almost as if Media Matters just sends this genius talking points every morning, just like they do to every other MSM member and other useful idiots.

And so we are all on the same page here, I'd release the stupid list just to show who's on it. I can promise you that there are names on it that will surprise us, as well as the fact that Trump's name isn't on there, since anyone with a brain cell knows the MSM would've brought this out at ANYTIME before now with the way the previous regime leaked out information.
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Maxwell is fighting her conviction, so good chance she tries to leverage this opportunity.
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aginlakeway said:

PaulsBunions said:

aginlakeway said:

PaulsBunions said:

aginlakeway said:

PaulsBunions said:

Rapier108 said:

Trump has been after Massie long before the insanity over Epstein started.

But that doesn't stop the Epsteiners from seeing something that isn't there.

This has truly reached Q-Anon level of insanity.

Actually, Q would be embarrassed by it.


There'd be no harm in releasing the files then


In your opinion, what are "the files" specifically that you want released?

And how is the release of innocent people's names not harmful?


I think what Massie put in his HR is reasonable. If they're innocent why would the files say otherwise? If the Biden admin doctored the files, can they not say who doctored it and when? Instead they're saying "oh we looked into and nothing was there trust us, and if you keep asking you're a traitor to MAGA".

https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-resolution/581?overview=closed


So you want to release "files" that include names, including people or simple associates who are innocent?

When has that ever happened in any investigation?


If they're innocent, and the files don't show any indication of them being guilty, why does it matter? I would prefer the government be forced to release everything they have since they've lied to citizens before and this whole thing smells of a coverup.

To your investigation question, the HR explicitly withholds info relating to an ongoing investigation. And to be honest I don't really care if it has never happened before, the fed has gotten away with too much operating how they have previously. IMO you can't "drain the swamp" by giving the swamp an out.

(C) would jeopardize an active federal investigation or ongoing prosecution, provided that such withholding is narrowly tailored and temporary;


So you want INNOCENT peoples name released as part of the "Epstein files?" You want the names of all associates or anyone who dealt with Epstein?

Those people's lives will be destroyed. And they are innocent. HUGE legal and libel issue with doing this.

When have innocent people's names ever been released to the public as part of a criminal investigation? When a mass murderer is convicted, names of his innocent associates are not released.


Yeah I want everything released about it. How could it be a libel issue if the releases files show no wrongdoing by an innocent person? Seems like a weak issue to harp on ngl. I highly doubt lives will be destroyed by an innocent person being proven innocent by the full release of the files lol
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Do you not understand the crazies on the internet?
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PaulsBunions said:

aginlakeway said:

PaulsBunions said:

aginlakeway said:

PaulsBunions said:

aginlakeway said:

PaulsBunions said:

Rapier108 said:

Trump has been after Massie long before the insanity over Epstein started.

But that doesn't stop the Epsteiners from seeing something that isn't there.

This has truly reached Q-Anon level of insanity.

Actually, Q would be embarrassed by it.


There'd be no harm in releasing the files then


In your opinion, what are "the files" specifically that you want released?

And how is the release of innocent people's names not harmful?


I think what Massie put in his HR is reasonable. If they're innocent why would the files say otherwise? If the Biden admin doctored the files, can they not say who doctored it and when? Instead they're saying "oh we looked into and nothing was there trust us, and if you keep asking you're a traitor to MAGA".

https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-resolution/581?overview=closed


So you want to release "files" that include names, including people or simple associates who are innocent?

When has that ever happened in any investigation?


If they're innocent, and the files don't show any indication of them being guilty, why does it matter? I would prefer the government be forced to release everything they have since they've lied to citizens before and this whole thing smells of a coverup.

To your investigation question, the HR explicitly withholds info relating to an ongoing investigation. And to be honest I don't really care if it has never happened before, the fed has gotten away with too much operating how they have previously. IMO you can't "drain the swamp" by giving the swamp an out.

(C) would jeopardize an active federal investigation or ongoing prosecution, provided that such withholding is narrowly tailored and temporary;


So you want INNOCENT peoples name released as part of the "Epstein files?" You want the names of all associates or anyone who dealt with Epstein?

Those people's lives will be destroyed. And they are innocent. HUGE legal and libel issue with doing this.

When have innocent people's names ever been released to the public as part of a criminal investigation? When a mass murderer is convicted, names of his innocent associates are not released.


Yeah I want everything released about it. How could it be a libel issue if the releases files show no wrongdoing by an innocent person? Seems like a weak issue to harp on ngl. I highly doubt lives will be destroyed by an innocent person being proven innocent by the full release of the files lol



100% disagree. People will be termed guilty just by association. And they were be outed online and their lives will be ruined.

In no situation are the innocent associates of sex offender names released to the public.
PaulsBunions
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Nutjobs will be nutjobs regardless. If we base every decision we make based off of how nutjobs will react nothing will ever get released and the swamp will get bigger.
aginlakeway
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Hays County pedophile convicted. ZERO chance innocent names associated with him are released.

https://www.hayscountytx.gov/pedophile-sentenced-to-life-without-parole

We all know that this is simply a political attempt to connect Trump to Epstein. And that's politics. But to say it's OK to release innocent people's names in a criminal activity seems concerning to me.

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aginlakeway said:

PaulsBunions said:

aginlakeway said:

PaulsBunions said:

aginlakeway said:

PaulsBunions said:

aginlakeway said:

PaulsBunions said:

Rapier108 said:

Trump has been after Massie long before the insanity over Epstein started.

But that doesn't stop the Epsteiners from seeing something that isn't there.

This has truly reached Q-Anon level of insanity.

Actually, Q would be embarrassed by it.


There'd be no harm in releasing the files then


In your opinion, what are "the files" specifically that you want released?

And how is the release of innocent people's names not harmful?


I think what Massie put in his HR is reasonable. If they're innocent why would the files say otherwise? If the Biden admin doctored the files, can they not say who doctored it and when? Instead they're saying "oh we looked into and nothing was there trust us, and if you keep asking you're a traitor to MAGA".

https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-resolution/581?overview=closed


So you want to release "files" that include names, including people or simple associates who are innocent?

When has that ever happened in any investigation?


If they're innocent, and the files don't show any indication of them being guilty, why does it matter? I would prefer the government be forced to release everything they have since they've lied to citizens before and this whole thing smells of a coverup.

To your investigation question, the HR explicitly withholds info relating to an ongoing investigation. And to be honest I don't really care if it has never happened before, the fed has gotten away with too much operating how they have previously. IMO you can't "drain the swamp" by giving the swamp an out.

(C) would jeopardize an active federal investigation or ongoing prosecution, provided that such withholding is narrowly tailored and temporary;


So you want INNOCENT peoples name released as part of the "Epstein files?" You want the names of all associates or anyone who dealt with Epstein?

Those people's lives will be destroyed. And they are innocent. HUGE legal and libel issue with doing this.

When have innocent people's names ever been released to the public as part of a criminal investigation? When a mass murderer is convicted, names of his innocent associates are not released.


Yeah I want everything released about it. How could it be a libel issue if the releases files show no wrongdoing by an innocent person? Seems like a weak issue to harp on ngl. I highly doubt lives will be destroyed by an innocent person being proven innocent by the full release of the files lol



100% disagree. People will be termed guilty just by association. And they were be outed online and their lives will be ruined.

In no situation are the innocent associates of sex offender names released to the public.

The Epsteiners don't care. They're perfectly happy with ruining innocent lives if it means getting Clinton, Gates, Trump, or whoever else they hate.

And they always seem to forget or ignore the fact that releasing "everything" means releasing hundreds if not thousands of hours of kiddie porn, which is never going to happen.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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Rapier108 said:

aginlakeway said:

PaulsBunions said:

aginlakeway said:

PaulsBunions said:

aginlakeway said:

PaulsBunions said:

aginlakeway said:

PaulsBunions said:

Rapier108 said:

Trump has been after Massie long before the insanity over Epstein started.

But that doesn't stop the Epsteiners from seeing something that isn't there.

This has truly reached Q-Anon level of insanity.

Actually, Q would be embarrassed by it.


There'd be no harm in releasing the files then


In your opinion, what are "the files" specifically that you want released?

And how is the release of innocent people's names not harmful?


I think what Massie put in his HR is reasonable. If they're innocent why would the files say otherwise? If the Biden admin doctored the files, can they not say who doctored it and when? Instead they're saying "oh we looked into and nothing was there trust us, and if you keep asking you're a traitor to MAGA".

https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-resolution/581?overview=closed


So you want to release "files" that include names, including people or simple associates who are innocent?

When has that ever happened in any investigation?


If they're innocent, and the files don't show any indication of them being guilty, why does it matter? I would prefer the government be forced to release everything they have since they've lied to citizens before and this whole thing smells of a coverup.

To your investigation question, the HR explicitly withholds info relating to an ongoing investigation. And to be honest I don't really care if it has never happened before, the fed has gotten away with too much operating how they have previously. IMO you can't "drain the swamp" by giving the swamp an out.

(C) would jeopardize an active federal investigation or ongoing prosecution, provided that such withholding is narrowly tailored and temporary;


So you want INNOCENT peoples name released as part of the "Epstein files?" You want the names of all associates or anyone who dealt with Epstein?

Those people's lives will be destroyed. And they are innocent. HUGE legal and libel issue with doing this.

When have innocent people's names ever been released to the public as part of a criminal investigation? When a mass murderer is convicted, names of his innocent associates are not released.


Yeah I want everything released about it. How could it be a libel issue if the releases files show no wrongdoing by an innocent person? Seems like a weak issue to harp on ngl. I highly doubt lives will be destroyed by an innocent person being proven innocent by the full release of the files lol



100% disagree. People will be termed guilty just by association. And they were be outed online and their lives will be ruined.

In no situation are the innocent associates of sex offender names released to the public.

The Epsteiners don't care. They're perfectly happy with ruining innocent lives if it means getting Clinton, Gates, Trump, or whoever else they hate.

And they always seem to forget or ignore the fact that releasing "everything" means releasing hundreds if not thousands of hours of kiddie porn, which is never going to happen.


You mean the kiddie porn that is explicitly withheld in Massie's HR? Implying anybody wants CP released is willful ignorance at this point. If a file says "Epstein met with Mr Smith the banker on Jan 1 2013 for a meeting at Mr Smith's office" and there's nothing else on Mr Smith, why would anybody care about Mr Smith?

The Trump admin had their chance to be transparent and chose to just say "we're moving on from this the government investigated themselves and found nothing further", despite releasing binders to influencers that said "Epstein part 1". Drastic times cause for drastic measures to hold govt accountable.
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PaulsBunions said:

Rapier108 said:

aginlakeway said:

PaulsBunions said:

aginlakeway said:

PaulsBunions said:

aginlakeway said:

PaulsBunions said:

aginlakeway said:

PaulsBunions said:

Rapier108 said:

Trump has been after Massie long before the insanity over Epstein started.

But that doesn't stop the Epsteiners from seeing something that isn't there.

This has truly reached Q-Anon level of insanity.

Actually, Q would be embarrassed by it.


There'd be no harm in releasing the files then


In your opinion, what are "the files" specifically that you want released?

And how is the release of innocent people's names not harmful?


I think what Massie put in his HR is reasonable. If they're innocent why would the files say otherwise? If the Biden admin doctored the files, can they not say who doctored it and when? Instead they're saying "oh we looked into and nothing was there trust us, and if you keep asking you're a traitor to MAGA".

https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-resolution/581?overview=closed


So you want to release "files" that include names, including people or simple associates who are innocent?

When has that ever happened in any investigation?


If they're innocent, and the files don't show any indication of them being guilty, why does it matter? I would prefer the government be forced to release everything they have since they've lied to citizens before and this whole thing smells of a coverup.

To your investigation question, the HR explicitly withholds info relating to an ongoing investigation. And to be honest I don't really care if it has never happened before, the fed has gotten away with too much operating how they have previously. IMO you can't "drain the swamp" by giving the swamp an out.

(C) would jeopardize an active federal investigation or ongoing prosecution, provided that such withholding is narrowly tailored and temporary;


So you want INNOCENT peoples name released as part of the "Epstein files?" You want the names of all associates or anyone who dealt with Epstein?

Those people's lives will be destroyed. And they are innocent. HUGE legal and libel issue with doing this.

When have innocent people's names ever been released to the public as part of a criminal investigation? When a mass murderer is convicted, names of his innocent associates are not released.


Yeah I want everything released about it. How could it be a libel issue if the releases files show no wrongdoing by an innocent person? Seems like a weak issue to harp on ngl. I highly doubt lives will be destroyed by an innocent person being proven innocent by the full release of the files lol



100% disagree. People will be termed guilty just by association. And they were be outed online and their lives will be ruined.

In no situation are the innocent associates of sex offender names released to the public.

The Epsteiners don't care. They're perfectly happy with ruining innocent lives if it means getting Clinton, Gates, Trump, or whoever else they hate.

And they always seem to forget or ignore the fact that releasing "everything" means releasing hundreds if not thousands of hours of kiddie porn, which is never going to happen.


You mean the kiddie porn that is explicitly withheld in Massie's HR? Implying anybody wants CP released is willful ignorance at this point. If a file says "Epstein met with Mr Smith the banker on Jan 1 2013 for a meeting at Mr Smith's office" and there's nothing else on Mr Smith, why would anybody care about Mr Smith?

The Trump admin had their chance to be transparent and chose to just say "we're moving on from this the government investigated themselves and found nothing further", despite releasing binders to influencers that said "Epstein part 1". Drastic times cause for drastic measures to hold govt accountable.


OK. But when is that sort of info ever released in a pedophile case? It's not. The names of the innocent aren't released in order to protect their privacy and ensure their safety.
 
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